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SAFE Act Passed - Another horror story for the adult industry

12-06-2007, 09:17 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/06/h...ages-ron-paul/

The new bill requires everyone (that includes you and Starbucks) offering an open WiFi connection to the public to be on the lookout for report known "illegal images" and "obscene" cartoons and drawings. The reporting requirement extends to cover social networking sites, ISPs, and email providers. Failing to dutifully report what you've seen (or haven't seen but are unwittingly complicit in) could leave your data seized and in debt from fines of up to $300,000.

Only 2 it turns out (Presidential candidate, Ron Paul being one of them) voted against it.

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12-06-2007, 09:19 AM

how in the the hell do they think people will do this in practise.

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12-06-2007, 09:21 AM

only takes a couple of minutes to crack a network secure or not.
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12-06-2007, 09:22 AM

God Bless Internets
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12-06-2007, 09:42 AM

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12-06-2007, 09:42 AM
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12-06-2007, 09:46 AM

How the fuck is the average idiot or Starbucks going to know what is illegal? They might come across Little Lupe or another 18+ model in a legal tee site and figure the shit is illegal when it is not, which will cause a shit storm and unecessary raids. Also, I thought toons could not be found to be obscene? Something change with that?

Well, it fucking passed, under the radar. Looks like it is too late to do anything. Where the fuck is the FSC on these issues?
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12-06-2007, 09:57 AM

why screw around with Starbucks? too many people around and the connection is slow as shit.
look up the address for your congressman, they always have good fast connections. just park outside his home and upload away!
you just got to love it when idiots run a country.
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12-06-2007, 10:02 AM

another can of worms..

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12-06-2007, 10:04 AM

wtf?....
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12-06-2007, 10:24 AM

So it doesn't require proactive monitoring, so wouldn't that actually reduce what is caught by the ISPs? I mean, they already don't filter because (to my understanding from talking to a top technician at Comcast) filtering some controlversial material and missing others opens them up to liability for the content they didn't filter (i.e. the argument can be raised that any filtering implies an acceptability for whatever is not filtered...and they can't catch it all). So, because of this new law, wouldn't they be less inclined to find *anything* out of fear of leaving themselves open to liability for whatever they missed?

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12-06-2007, 10:26 AM

thats the stupidest thign I ever heard, Im sure it will be gone soon

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12-06-2007, 10:29 AM

another stupid law..

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12-06-2007, 10:32 AM

So if the Starbuck goons show up at my door I have to show them my 2257 doc's?
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12-06-2007, 10:34 AM

It only passed the house and really not a big deal, It doesn't require proactive monitoring, it just requires that if the starbucks kid for example see's someone surfing for kiddie porn at Starbucks to report them which you should anyways... They pass stupid shit like this ever year before a big election cycle so they can have something to brag about to get elected again, there's no real meat to this bill...

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12-06-2007, 10:36 AM

I still don't understand the toon image deal
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12-06-2007, 10:43 AM

all the law are just for ucking peope government officials only.

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12-06-2007, 11:04 AM

never make it to enforcement.

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12-06-2007, 11:05 AM

duh, unreal
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12-06-2007, 11:06 AM

Another unenforceable law..
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12-06-2007, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by Wizzo

it just requires that if the starbucks kid for example see's someone surfing for kiddie porn at Starbucks to report them which you should anyways...

why does everyone always use CP as the example?

the article states

... to the public to be on the lookout for report known "illegal images" and "obscene" cartoons and drawings. The reporting requirement extends to cover social networking sites, ISPs, and email providers. Failing to dutifully report what you've seen (or haven't seen but are unwittingly complicit in) could leave your data seized and in debt from fines of up to $300,000.

note.... "cartoons" "drawings"

nothing about CP, this is aimed at anything obscene. Dont play into their hands by using CP as the example.

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12-06-2007, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Wizzo

It only passed the house and really not a big deal, It doesn't require proactive monitoring, it just requires that if the starbucks kid for example see's someone surfing for kiddie porn at Starbucks to report them which you should anyways... They pass stupid shit like this ever year before a big election cycle so they can have something to brag about to get elected again, there's no real meat to this bill...

So this isn't about combing through logs? It's just if you see it on someone's laptop as you walk by you need to report it?

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12-06-2007, 11:59 AM

Spy on your neighbour

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12-06-2007, 12:04 PM

Isn't this great news for shutting down tube sites, torrent sites and pirate posting boards, who blatantly turn a blind eye to monitoring their communities?
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12-06-2007, 12:08 PM

wow this domain affects me in a VERY positive financial way. I own highschoolwifi.com, collegewifi.com, universitywifi.com and restaurantwifi.com

Anyone interested in buying some kickass domains that are now gold with these new laws and the govt spending money on it.
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12-06-2007, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Socks

Isn't this great news for shutting down tube sites, torrent sites and pirate posting boards, who blatantly turn a blind eye to monitoring their communities?

Unfortunately the enforcement side of the house is running a little low on resources
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12-06-2007, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by PornMogul

wow this domain affects me in a VERY positive financial way. I own highschoolwifi.com, collegewifi.com, universitywifi.com and restaurantwifi.com

Anyone interested in buying some kickass domains that are now gold with these new laws and the govt spending money on it.

How exactly does this law appreciate the value of your domains?

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12-06-2007, 01:20 PM

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12-06-2007, 01:40 PM

The way I read the law it only applies to obvious cp.

Cartoons and drawings must be of cp.

If someone put cp on my network than I'm glad to report them and fuck them up, but I don't want to be held accountable if I miss something that slipped through.
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12-06-2007, 02:36 PM

I'm happy I'm not American, I don't live there and I don't have to follow all the stupid laws they create.

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12-06-2007, 03:30 PM

I think this.. and other laws will soon limit adult in some major ways..
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12-06-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by ModelPerfect

How exactly does this law appreciate the value of your domains?

lol it doesn't
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12-06-2007, 03:36 PM

My fear is not the part that we have heard about, but about the parts of it that we have NOT heard about. They like to sneek things though under other bills.

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12-06-2007, 03:43 PM

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another stupid law..

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12-06-2007, 05:34 PM

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lol it doesn't

My point exactly.

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12-06-2007, 05:37 PM

Originally posted by pornguy

My fear is not the part that we have heard about, but about the parts of it that we have NOT heard about. They like to sneek things though under other bills.

Well... this was basically an attempt to sneak this completely under the radar, the act was rushed through under a procedure reserved for noncontroversial legislation, never voted on in committee, and was never posted (in its modern October 10th form) for public review.

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12-06-2007, 05:38 PM

The question that comes to my mind is the obscenity part. As we know its a subjective thing at best. Say your at a hotel using their wifi to update your sites or your blog, can they fuck with you over that?
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12-06-2007, 05:48 PM

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12-06-2007, 05:49 PM

obviously the people who made that law have no idea about how the internet works.
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12-06-2007, 05:52 PM

meh. We should fire our government next election.

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12-06-2007, 06:52 PM

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I still don't understand the toon image deal

Under the Amber Act, any toon that looks like a child is against the law. Other toons are not covered.

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12-06-2007, 06:57 PM

Ron Paul for pres. You know he has a lot of good ideas. Only thing is will he actually pull through.

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12-06-2007, 07:00 PM

......it's gonna hit the toons hardz........

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12-06-2007, 07:00 PM

the next time i see any of you looking at porn in vegas on the wifi connection i am reporting you to the cops

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12-06-2007, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by madleinx

So now it's spy on your customers, neighbors, and friends or it's your ass? See sig.

great, nazi germany here we come
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12-08-2007, 04:17 PM

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12-08-2007, 04:59 PM

As always...in the U.S. the inmates are running the asylum.

If there were a Top 10 list of countries with the most fucked up laws, America would surely be at the top.
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12-08-2007, 05:17 PM

That "Bill" was passed 409-2??

Yet another example of lunacy in action. No other western nation would tolerate this level of utter crap from any government.

Of the 409 - at least 100 were asleep and have never read the proposal, another 200 are too scared and trying to cover their asses and get re-elected by a dumb public. The remainder were probably in public toilets playing footsy or committing offenses against minors and the balance too busy having adulterous affairs.

Damn... how very sad
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12-08-2007, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by thonglife

Another unenforceable law..

Law...what law. A bill was passed in the House which means that it is still a long way from ever becoming a law. Bills are frequently passed in the House that never become law.

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12-08-2007, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by theking

Law...what law. A bill was passed in the House which means that it is still a long way from ever becoming a law. Bills are frequently passed in the House that never become law.

Sorry Mr. grammar police.. ok.. bill.
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