um no thats the point I'm making,they have found the box and let the families listen to it...Every other hijacked plane's black box has been released(not the ones on 9/11) So i mean whats the problem with releasing them unless there is something to hide? don't give me that "respect for the hero's families" bullshit... and you would think at least one of these family members would try to cash in on an interview,paid off to not talk about what was on the tape? possibly... I dunno,this is all far fetched conspiracies BUT there's nothing proving the theory wrong.. A few hillbilly witnesses don't convince me...I at least saw a plane hit the WTC and I actually saw half a plane sticking out of the side of the Pentagon... who knows,I'm just throwing idea's out,kinda like the government does :)

i say its all whitey's fault!:thumbsup

I was just watching CNN and a vice presidential aide pointed out that Cheney gave the order to shoot the plane (Flight 93) down a hlaf hour before it crashed.

Upon hearing of the crash, Cheney said (quoted by several people) "I think we just witnessed an act of courage."

He didn't know shit at the time of the passengers' supposed role (it didn't come out until days later)

So what he was saying, as clear as day, in the doublespeak that politicians speak: we just blew up a plane full of Americans, we need to cover this shit up by making these people heroes.

So technically yes...it's all whitey's fault. Who's whiter than Cheney?

At least one family member has spoke about it. I saw the interview on TV.

ahaha, no shit. :1orglaugh :thumbsup

All ammunition that boards a plane (F-16) is tracked. I am sure one of the grunts when they got back had to take inventory and trying to cover up a missing missile would be kind of difficult. Not to mention the witnesses say there were no missiles launched (as far as they know). The facts are the plane crashed, people died. All the investigating in the world won't bring those people back.

I was always curious of the plane that smacked into the pentagon as the pictures I have seen never really resemble a wreckage of a plane. I dunno too many possibilities...

DH

That's because when it hit, the wings were knocked offf the plane almost immediately. I saw a computer rendering of the crash just the other day.

By the way, from the way I understood it from the interview I watched on TV (a wife of one of the passengers), she said it sounded like they (the passengers) were trying to break into the cockpit. In another interview I saw (not a family member but some official) said it sounded as if they (the passengers) may have been using a catering cart as a ram while trying to break into the cockpit, but that was basically the last sounds heard. I concluded from that the hi-jackers were locked inside the cockpit and either had taken over flight controls or the pilots were still at the controls when the passengers were trying to break in. We will never know the whole story.

BTW - Have You heard this ?

http://www.airdisaster.com/download2/ua93.shtml

Yes. I had heard that. If everyone will notice the other aircraft in the area did not report any other aircraft in the area other than UA-93 (like fighter jets). Of course the conspiracy people will say it is a doctored tape.

why can't this word be on GFY?

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Whatever happened on flight 93, won't all of this prevent future hijackers from taking over planes and holding them captive as in the more "traditional" hijackings?

I mean if someone tries to take over a plane now, won't the passengers assume it is another suicide missile scenario, and proceed to try to take back the controls?

If the pilots have been severely injured or killed, better have some passengers with flight training or there will be another flight 93.

shohahahay

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that is odd

If an F16 shot the plane down there would have been a very wide area of debris scattered across maybe 2-3 miles. The crash site looked like a big hole and not much more. Couldnt have physically happened...no way

We've seen time and time again since, that people will not let some nut take over a plane. I don't think people are going to let that shit slide anymore.

Btw, I liked Pathfinder. Also, I sadly believed the post from the start.

Chris

Pulling "Let's Roll" out of a movie?
Well, what would YOU say if you were facing a group of men who knew they were most likely about to go to their deaths on your go-ahead?
"Okay guys, uhh like... let's go die"?? Real adrenaline-pumping stuff there.

Not heros? How many lives did they save? They're heros.
One man had his infant son with him and rather than staying there to comfort his son he got up and fought as he went to his death. Would YOU do that?

It's so fucking easy to bash other people for things they say and do in an emergency situation when you're sitting on your comfy chair in your comfy house with loved ones just a phone call away.
*rolling eyes*

It used to be that it was good sense to cooperate with hijackers as they would normally just want to go to such and such a place and no one would get hurt....

Same with bank robberies....

Now anyone trying to hijack a plane is out of their mind. They don't need to worry about beating the security at the gates, but the dozens of passengers and possibly armed pilots that are now not to keen on the idea of hijackings. I doubt we will see any hijackings again on any commercial flights in the forseeable future....

Have you ever flown dude? The cockpit door opens outward...

There was a passenger capable of flying the plane onboard

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero...erreurs_en.htm

http://www.public-action.com/911/robotplane.html

Oh, crashing an a passenger plane isn't that easy to do - you have to <b>want</b> to do it all sort of alarms and stuff go off if things start going awry.

Dude, your poll shows 2 options of a possible 1,000 or more.

Chances are the 45 people attacked and killed the 3 terrorists, leaving the pilot.

At which point the pilot knew he was the last one, and would understand that he couldn't possibly beat them all. So, some possibilities at this point:

1. he ran the plane down, or shut off the engines, or dumped the fuel, or did whatever he can think of to ensure that after he is killed the passengers will have a tough time, at best, to get the plane back under control.

2. he left the controls, and died fighting the passenegers, and the passengers could not control the plane.

I am sure there are others... I believe that some version of #1 happened.

Your point is?

Look I can't buy into anything written by the "Waco Holocaust Museum". Please - calling what happened in Waco a holocaust is ridiculous unto itself.

Everything that is written isn't exactly true!

(cept for what I'm writing :) )

It's called death grip... the pilot wouldn't let go of the controls.

:p

I believe you write the truth.:thumbsup