Marijuana Dealers offer Schwarzenegger 1 Billion dollars

[Mr Steele]

Interesting shit...

www.LetUsPayTaxes.com

August 6 -- A coalition of California marijuana growers and dealers has offered Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger one billion dollars to solve the current state budget crisis. The group, calling itself Let Us Pay Taxes makes the offer through its web site www.LetUsPayTaxes.com.

The offer comes at a time when the California legislature is deadlocked on a new budget and California has stopped issuing checks for vitally needed social services. Legislators are currently arguing over which programs will be cut in order to balance the budget.

?It is ridiculous that California can?t pay its bills,? said spokesman Clifford Schaffer. ?It is a tragedy that they will cut badly needed services and programs such as medical care for the elderly and prison drug treatment when the money to fund all these programs and more is there and available. Everyone who is currently waiting for a check from the state should be enraged at this foolishness.?

Regulation and taxation of marijuana could produce six billion dollars in additional tax revenue, according to economic studies linked from their web site LetUsPayTaxes.com. In addition, it could save up to ten billion dollars in enforcement costs. ?That is a conservative estimate,? said Schaffer. ?By other estimates, the revenues could be five times that. The economists are with us all the way on this one. Marijuana prohibition is an economic disaster.?

?Let?s face reality,? Schaffer says. ?Marijuana legalization is inevitable. The situation is already beyond control in California. The state and local authorities have offered safe harbor for medical marijuana use and the Federal Government simply doesn?t have the resources for effective control.?

More importantly, says Schaffer, the operators of the medical marijuana clubs are no longer afraid of the Federal Government. ?If you talk to them, you will find that they know they are going to win this battle. They know that the DEA is vastly outnumbered and can?t begin to prosecute all of them. The few that are prosecuted are accepting their fate as martyrs because they know what they are doing is right. They are willing to sacrifice themselves to make the point that the Federal Government has just gone too far in interfering with very personal and private decisions. There is no way the DEA is going to win this battle. At this point, it is all over but the counting of the money ? and the victims of the DEA.?

Schaffer went on to say that the national market for marijuana has been estimated from a low of ten billion dollars per year to more than fifty billion dollars per year. ?The first states to regulate and tax marijuana will receive an economic bonanza bigger than the original California Gold Rush,? says Schaffer. ?Some states will get rich like the Saudis.?

Schaffer predicts that it will not take long for some local areas to wake up to the economic possibilities. ?We are talking potentially big bucks here,? he said. ?The Canadians are already starting to take note of a cannabis-fueled economic boom in some areas. Politicians can?t resist fresh cash, especially when it is coming to their local community. There will be big winners and losers here. The winners will be the ones who recognize the foregone conclusion first.?

The group also cites foreign terrorism as a reason to regulate and tax marijuana. ?Drug Czar John Walters is being dishonest when he says that marijuana money goes to criminals and terrorists. The only reason any of that money goes to criminals or terrorists is because of the prohibition that Walters supports,? said Schaffer. ?Marijuana prohibition makes criminals rich just like alcohol prohibition did. The criminals are now so rich and powerful that they can challenge the legitimate governments of their own countries. There is no reason to send billions of dollars per year to foreign criminal gangs when patriotic Americans make the best products in the world. There is no reason to suffer such a huge foreign trade deficit when that money could be providing jobs and funding badly needed services right here in the USA.?

Let Us Pay Taxes calls upon all US citizens to sign their petition at their web site http://LetUsPayTaxes.com and press the issue with their lawmakers. ?Take the money, please,? said Schaffer. ?These people want to contribute. Now it is up to our politicians to tell us why they want to send those billions to foreign criminal gangs rather than to their own voters.?

[baddog]

so where in that article did they offer him $1 billion?

[Mr Steele]

1st line

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by baddog

so where in that article did they offer him $1 billion?

First line "A coalition of California marijuana growers and dealers has offered Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger one billion dollars to solve the current state budget crisis."

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by baddog

so where in that article did they offer him $1 billion?

Can you read the FIRST line?

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by baddog

so where in that article did they offer him $1 billion?

wash the cum out of your eyes and read it again

[BusterBunny]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Can you read the FIRST line?

[Big_D]

seriously, it would be one hell of a revenue generator and greatly increase the quality of life in my eyes. petition signed.

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

1st line

classic

[Brother Bilo]

So, I'm pretty sure that there is no way in hell that the Govenator will take this money. Even though it would do the state good and even though it's ridiculous that marajuana isn't legal yet, I'm pretty sure the federal guys will shine on it.

Looks like the lazy fucks on welfare need to finally get a job.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by baddog

so where in that article did they offer him $1 billion?

It doesnt have too, however with the combination in taxes, the release of tens of thousands of prisoners (who will be released anyways due to the new capacity limits being discussed), irraddication efforts, cleaning up grow sites in forest areas (approx 65k per site), the special task forces, the court room clutter, the freeing up of a vast number of police officers, the public defenders, the district attornies, the "propaganda programs", the tourism boom, and the eviromental effects such as hemp production and its many uses.

Surely this would be over 1 billion a year at a low end.

[donborno]

The 1 billion $ comes from the Google ads on their website

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by Big_D

seriously, it would be one hell of a revenue generator and greatly increase the quality of life in my eyes. petition signed.

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

1st line

Okay, I said it wrong. They are not offering him $1 billion, they say they are guaranteeing in tax revenue.

Should the growers and sellers band together and offer $1 billion from their pockets, that would be newsworthy.

I don't think anyone has ever denied that the legalization and taxation of weed would bring in additional income. Problem is those damn bootleggers.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

I'm pretty sure the federal guys will shine on it.

Therein lies the problem

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

1st line

In other words, the article is incorrect. Where did you get it from?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

Not that often I would call someone an idiot, but well thats idiotic.
It would be legal, thus no guns nor gangs controlling it. Do you not understand prohibition? Relate it to alcohol and do tell me you feel the same way.

Originally Posted by baddog

Therein lies the problem

No as a state can fight the Federal Government. States do have rights and honestly fuck the feds. They would shit a fucking brick and become a third world country if California just left the damn US.

[Brad Mitchell]

Petition Signed!

[Mr Steele]

Got from another site, Digg or something....But if you google the thread title, you'll come up with 10000's of the same press release

[klinton]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

just like chicago in 20's ....

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

They would shit a fucking brick and become a third world country if California just left the damn US.

You do a lot of drugs or something?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by baddog

In other words, the article is incorrect. Where did you get it from?

Baddog do you also enjoy going to a museum and taking a look at a rodan or a vangoh and finding one small chisle error or brush stroke?

It would save the state well more than 1 billion dollars. If I was on my desktop I could pull up actual numbers and this war on drugs just in CA is mind blowingly expensive and not just the what you see cash wise. Not to mention it is not effective at all.

[The Duck]

Wow, that was a great read.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by baddog

You do a lot of drugs or something?

Not as much as you have.

Tell me one damn reason why California could not have a revolution and leave the US? Not to mention our founding fathers encouraged such behavior, hell you should know that since odds are you were about 4 when one of them mentioned it.

PS it is the 5th biggest economy.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

Got from here: http://stopthedrugwar.org/in_the_tre...juana_dealers_

But if you google the thread title, you'll come up with 1000's of the same press release

I am still looking for the $1 billion offer. Haven't found it yet.

[Humpy Leftnut]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

You live in a place where there are GUNS everywhere.. BIG ONES.. And most of the nations GANGS.

And you're worried someone is going to *gasp* light a joint?

Get your head straight. I recommend taking it out of your ass initially. First step to recovery!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Not as much as you have.

Tell me one damn reason why California could not have a revolution and leave the US? Not to mention our founding fathers encouraged such behavior, hell you should know that since odds are you were about 4 when one of them mentioned it.

PS it is the 5th biggest economy.

You need a reality check if you seriously think that is an option. Do you see a proposition appearing on an upcoming election or something?

[Bake]

Nothing like breakfast bongs to clear the head.

[woj]

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

1st line

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

It would save the state well more than 1 billion dollars. If I was on my desktop I could pull up actual numbers and this war on drugs just in CA is mind blowingly expensive and not just the what you see cash wise. Not to mention it is not effective at all.

No shit. But that isn't what the thread title said, is it?

And in case you missed it the first time,
I don't think anyone has ever denied that the legalization and taxation of weed would bring in additional income.

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Not that often I would call someone an idiot, but well thats idiotic.
It would be legal, thus no guns nor gangs controlling it. Do you not understand prohibition? Relate it to alcohol and do tell me you feel the same way.

So when one dealer takes a street block to sell his weed and another dealer wants to get rid of the current guy so he can put one of his guys on that block and make the money, you dont think guns and gangs are going to get involved? Shootings?
Would you raise your kids like that?

What? You really think there will be Coffee houses in California and people will settle for that and not push it more?

Even now in Amsterdam where its legal, it brings in gangs from other countries selling way harder things than weed. I walked through there and one guy followed me for 15 minutes trying to sell me cocaine and extacy. I saw groups of these guys at night time. I didnt want to walk through them, I went around the block. Who knows what they are doing.

And thats in Amsterdam where the people there can handle some freedom. Here in America we're gluttons and want more more more. We cant just sell a little weed in a coffee shop and be done with it. It'll grow into selling harder things, gang fights. the crime will grow.

[Mr Steele]

Check their site then:
www.LetUsPayTaxes.com

"The producers and sellers of marijuana offer the state of California at least one billion dollars in additional tax revenue every year -- and nobody is arguing."

3rd paragraph in case you get lost again ;)

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I actually think this would be a good thing.

[Big_D]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

I gotta tell you right now, in my ventures across the globe I have been to many places. Amsterdam, Holland has been among them. It is by far one of the cleanest and most amazing places I have been in Europe. Yes its legal to smoke outside, in certain areas such as coffee shops and your residence, but its funny you say what you say for the simple fact that even tho it is legalized many of the citizens do not smoke, or only on occasion. The city is filled with awesome archetecture, streets are cleaned daily, and well, it was an awesome place and very well taken care of. There arent any shitty cars driving around and the whole place seems very wealthy. Yes some places due have prostitution, but only alloted areas by the city, aka the red light district. Not only that but Holland also has one of the lowest counts of hardcore drugs users (cocaine & heroin) in the world from what I am told. If it is legalized it would be taxed as alcohol is and provide even greater revenue for the United States and could be utilized for many of the issues going on within the country. It would replace a lot of revenue that is being created currently by the war as well. I both drink and smoke a left handed cigarettes when the timing is right, shit everyone does. What I can say is I would rather be around a pot head than a drunk any day of the week, and if there is a way to make my country better by legalizing marijuana, I fully endorse it. Follow the examples that have been successful and setting it up right is the only key.

[zand_stein]

huge amount of money.................
nice clip.............very interesting....

[Big_D]

and one more thing that I notice. License the sales of it as tobacco and alcohol are done now. Why buy from a gangster controlling a block illegally when you can go to your local convienant store and buy it over the counter.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Mr Steele

"The producers and sellers of marijuana offer the state of California at least one billion dollars in additional tax revenue every year -- and nobody is arguing."

That is a bullshit comment in of itself. How can someone "offer additional tax revenue" unless they are saying they will pay it themselves.

For the third time, I don't think anyone has ever denied that the legalization and taxation of weed would bring in additional income.

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

keep smoking your crack

[Hollywood Horwitz]

I signed the petition! Great cause for sure!

[beemk]

misleading title, they didnt offer 1 billion they offered an opportunity to make 1 billion.

[Mark_E4A]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

if it was legal and people could smoke it like cigs, the gang bangers would be too lazy to lift their guns, instead they would be lifting hotdogs and slushies

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

So when one dealer takes a street block to sell his weed and another dealer wants to get rid of the current guy so he can put one of his guys on that block and make the money, you dont think guns and gangs are going to get involved? Shootings?
Would you raise your kids like that?

What? You really think there will be Coffee houses in California and people will settle for that and not push it more?

Even now in Amsterdam where its legal, it brings in gangs from other countries selling way harder things than weed. I walked through there and one guy followed me for 15 minutes trying to sell me cocaine and extacy. I saw groups of these guys at night time. I didnt want to walk through them, I went around the block. Who knows what they are doing.

And thats in Amsterdam where the people there can handle some freedom. Here in America we're gluttons and want more more more. We cant just sell a little weed in a coffee shop and be done with it. It'll grow into selling harder things, gang fights. the crime will grow.

There already is crack, meth, heroin, and every other illegal drug known to man available in every perfect subdivion in this country let alone "the ghettos".

As for coffee houses or what you want to call them, well we have medicial marijuana clinics now and guess what, no gangs near them, no crack dealers following you around and so forth. Now sure if you look for it you can find it I will grant you that.

Now if it were legalized statewide gang envolvement would be moot. They would not be able to compete with large scale farmers who would produce it at prices that would drop the profit margin out from under crime. Akin to alcohol prohibition again. You would also see it sold in the same places they sell any smoking material, unless some companies attempted to take a moral high ground.

Lastly you are really trying to push the propaganda that marijuana is the gateway drug when every study not funded by the US government aside from one has shown that alcohol is.

[fuzzylogic]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Can you read the FIRST line?

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Big_D

I gotta tell you right now, in my ventures across the globe I have been to many places. Amsterdam, Holland has been among them. It is by far one of the cleanest and most amazing places I have been in Europe. Yes its legal to smoke outside, in certain areas such as coffee shops and your residence, but its funny you say what you say for the simple fact that even tho it is legalized many of the citizens do not smoke, or only on occasion. The city is filled with awesome archetecture, streets are cleaned daily, and well, it was an awesome place and very well taken care of. There arent any shitty cars driving around and the whole place seems very wealthy. Yes some places due have prostitution, but only alloted areas by the city, aka the red light district. Not only that but Holland also has one of the lowest counts of hardcore drugs users (cocaine & heroin) in the world from what I am told. If it is legalized it would be taxed as alcohol is and provide even greater revenue for the United States and could be utilized for many of the issues going on within the country. It would replace a lot of revenue that is being created currently by the war as well. I both drink and smoke a left handed cigarettes when the timing is right, shit everyone does. What I can say is I would rather be around a pot head than a drunk any day of the week, and if there is a way to make my country better by legalizing marijuana, I fully endorse it. Follow the examples that have been successful and setting it up right is the only key.

I remember a discussion with my grandmother that was raised in Ireland, and eventually lived a couple blocks from Haight-Ashbury.

In Ireland, everyone met at the pub, kids included, and she saw the devastation of alcohol abuse.

In San Francisco, she saw hippies smoking pot in Golden Gate Park.

She too said she would rather deal with the smokers than the drinkers.

There is not much question that pot is a lot less dangerous than alcohol in lots of ways.

The reason you won't see weed legalized on a Federal level is because the alcohol lobbies are very well entrenched in Washington.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by beemk

misleading title, they didnt offer 1 billion they offered an opportunity to make 1 billion.

and we rarely agree on anything

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by baddog

You need a reality check if you seriously think that is an option. Do you see a proposition appearing on an upcoming election or something?

Not currently but I am at the point where I feel it is due. Would just require enough signatures.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Now if it were legalized statewide gang envolvement would be moot.

Weed really isn't worth the risk to most people. Too bulky.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Not currently but I am at the point where I feel it is due. Would just require enough signatures.

Are you old enough to remember when No Cal wanted to secede from So Cal and become their own state?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by clickhappy

Would turn California to a 3rd world ghetto. There'd be dealers and probably guns and gangs smoking weed on every 3rd corner. I wouldnt want to raise my kids in a place where there was weed everywhere.

.....

that's happening anyway

and weed would be regulated.. would you buy weed from some punk on a corner, or a licensed business?

[clickhappy]

Originally Posted by Big_D

I gotta tell you right now, in my ventures across the globe I have been to many places. Amsterdam, Holland has been among them. It is by far one of the cleanest and most amazing places I have been in Europe.

Theres a difference between restrained and civil Dutch people and jaded gluttonous Americans.
There are way way way more violent gun crimes here than there are in Europe.
Basically, we can't handle our shit.

Now, if they created a small district where you could sell/smoke weed I would go for that. A green-zone, if you will, lol. But to allow it everywhere in CA will cause endless headaches. I do not want a bunch of fucking screaming kids smoking weed outside my door because they decided to have a party in front of my house. And thats whats going to happen.

Oh and all those homeless kinds doing meth in Portland will come down to California to tent on the streets here because its legal now. Fun fun fun.