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Old 08-21-2007, 11:34 AM   #1
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We are really bothering people already who..

steal content, and or profit from it and want us to stay quiet.


-New posters registering on GFY and only posting in torrent threads advocating the thefts.

-Threats from said posters.

-Actual businesses attempting unsuccessfully to justify the use of others content for financial gain.

the rabbit hole goes deep. the things we are uncovering are shocking. companies who you thought are clean actually conspiring directly with thief sites. lots of info piling up. no need to bring anything out now. the discovery is eye opening.


stay tuned.

*p.s. no one is accused my me or the studios in this thread, but oh there will be some people not happy soon.




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Old 08-21-2007, 11:36 AM   #2
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in one case an adult business owns a torrent site and gets people to join their site network for 1 dollar and teachs the consumer how to cancel and uses this method to give the consumer access to tons of other peoples content on a leecher torrent site.

*again, no threats, just thought i would share for those that think that there are no problems or shadys out there. there are.
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So have you ever shooken Lars' hand at a convention?
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all in good time sir.


these type of threads are beneficial in keeping the importance of a policing association within the content production business at the front of peoples minds.
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This sounds like it may be fake drama. Without proof you are just a turd with a nick. Name names or GTFO

PS. I love you man. Nothing personal. Just name names or don't post it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:42 AM   #7
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So have you ever shooken Lars' hand at a convention?
you betcha. i shake everyones hands. men do that.

being able to respectfully disagree and let due process run its course is a characteristic that not everyone possesses. find another tree to pee on.
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:43 AM   #8
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This sounds like it may be fake drama. Without proof you are just a turd with a nick. Name names or GTFO

PS. I love you man. Nothing personal. Just name names or don't post it.
fake drama says the man with the fake nick.



whoever you are, if we are considering each other friends, why don't you post with your real nick? I am.

No need to name names. People know what we are up to. This is merely keeping the pressure on like it should be kept at the moment.

my intentions are well known.

unlike those of many others hiding behind nicks.

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Old 08-21-2007, 11:47 AM   #12
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you betcha. i shake everyones hands. men do that.

being able to respectfully disagree and let due process run its course is a characteristic that not everyone possesses. find another tree to pee on.
see you are a hypocrite,

you only do things behind closed doors,

that is why all this is such a joke with you, real men dont shake everyone hands, real men stand up for what is right no matter what the situation is.

cowards put on a smile for when the time is right.

being real is also a characteristic not everyone pocesses.

i find it truly hilarious that you come on here daily now and bitch about this situation but then "respectfully disagree" with the person basically (let me choose my words here) sponsoring these sites.

do you not see how hypocritcal you are on this subject? if someone comes into my house and robs from me i am not going to shake their hand when i see them just because they may be popular with others. you sure make it sound like torrents are the same deal and yet you do it anyway.
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lmao the pressure. oh the humanity.

re-read the old codger thread airek.
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see you are a hypocrite,

you only do things behind closed doors,

that is why all this is such a joke with you, real men dont shake everyone hands, real men stand up for what is right no matter what the situation is.

cowards put on a smile for when the time is right.

being real is also a characteristic not everyone pocesses.

i find it truly hilarious that you come on here daily now and bitch about this situation but then "respectfully disagree" with the person basically (let me choose my words here) sponsoring these sites.

do you not see how hypocritcal you are on this subject? if someone comes into my house and robs from me i am not going to shake their hand when i see them just because they may be popular with others. you sure make it sound like torrents are the same deal and yet you do it anyway.
what are you doing about the problem?

dudes got his balls out there, pu ttogether a discussion about it while you sit back and chop away at a keyboard.
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see you are a hypocrite,

you only do things behind closed doors,

that is why all this is such a joke with you, real men dont shake everyone hands, real men stand up for what is right no matter what the situation is.

cowards put on a smile for when the time is right.

being real is also a characteristic not everyone pocesses.

i find it truly hilarious that you come on here daily now and bitch about this situation but then "respectfully disagree" with the person basically (let me choose my words here) sponsoring these sites.

do you not see how hypocritcal you are on this subject? if someone comes into my house and robs from me i am not going to shake their hand when i see them just because they may be popular with others. you sure make it sound like torrents are the same deal and yet you do it anyway.


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just the response i expected from you, you cant even admit how you are hyprocritcal on the situation.

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dudes got his balls out there while you sit back and chop away at a keyboard.
i am not chopping his effort i am chopping how hypocritical the situation is. i wish him nothing but luck in stopping these sites. serioulsy good for him for trying to do something about. that is not my point.

but someone has to point out the obvious fact that putting a smile on for your "enemies" just to remain popular is pretty hypocritical. if you cannot understand that then i have nothing to explain to you.
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what are you doing about the problem?

dudes got his balls out there, pu ttogether a discussion about it while you sit back and chop away at a keyboard.
my balls really aren't out there really.

i got 5 job offers last week alone.

i'm not worried in the slightest about my career.

besides, if pissing off people who think that those practices are acceptable are the people i am pissing off, then i've got nothing really to be concerned about. i don't want to work for anyone who KNOWINGLY takes steps to profit from the exclusive content of others. notice i said KNOWINGLY, because many of the things we are finding are not ACCIDENTAL "someone is sending us traffic we don't know about" situations.

metaman can say whatever he wants. i wouldn't spit in someone's face or act like a savage in public because i don't like what someone does with their business. many here should learn about due prccess and follow the lead of people like evan who know how to legally disagree with someone in proper form. no sweat off my back what people are saying here.
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just the response i expected from you, you cant even admit how you are hyprocritcal on the situation.



i am not chopping his effort i am chopping how hypocritical the situation is. i wish him nothing but luck in stopping these sites. serioulsy good for him for trying to do something about. that is not my point.

but someone has to point out the obvious fact that putting a smile on for your "enemies" just to remain popular is pretty hypocritical. if you cannot understand that then i have nothing to explain to you.
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keep your interpretations open.

this thread has already accomplished its goal.
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Keep in mind everything I do is calculated. Whether you can see that or not.

Enjoy your day metaman.
i am not trying to bash your effort, no where have i done that, i would just like that noted.

i am just personally someone who if i see someone who has been screwing me over whether directly or indirectly i would never for 2 seconds think about acting friendly with them.

and you really think your "due process" is going to actually affect AFF? you cannot actually believe this.

the only way to stop these sites is to cut off their sponsors, that way it is useless for them to run the site in the first place. and the only way to stop these sponsors is from support from the entire community cutting them off in the firstplace.

i think the last thing helping this is by going up shaking hands and posing pictures with the devil just so everyone else can see how great a guy they are. you are directly helping support these sites by doing this imho.

that is just my opinion anyway, can you not see what i talking about? again i wish you luck whether or not we agree or agree to disagree.

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i am not trying to bash your effort, no where have i done that, i would just like that noted.

i am just personally someone who if i see someone who has been screwing me over whether directly or indirectly i would never for 2 seconds think about acting friendly with them.

and you really think your "due process" is going to actually affect AFF? you cannot actually believe this.

the only way to stop these sites is to cut off their sponsors, that way it is useless for them to run the site in the first place. and the only way to stop these sponsors is from support from the entire community cutting them off in the firstplace.

i think the last thing helping this is by going up shaking hands and posing pictures with the devil just so everyone else can see how great a guy they are. you are directly helping support these sites by doing this imho.

that is just my opinion anyway, can you not see what i talking about? again i wish you luck.
likewise. if i did not respect your opinion, i am no better than the next shallow minded, inconsiderate person. this is a political environment. think on that level for a second. think to the floor of the house or senate in the u.s. government. people smile and shake hands with mortal enemies on a daily basis. thats the diplomatic way to do things. you cannot allow things to come to the personal level or you jeopardize the common goal of what you are fighting for. trust me, the hardest things for me to do are to pretend that something doesn't bother me. but we all have to sacrifice for the goal.

your opinion is respected. all i want is mine respected.



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likewise. if i did not respect your opinion, i am no better than the next shallow minded, inconsiderate person. this is a political environment. think on that level for a second. think to the floor of the house or senate in the u.s. government. people smile and shake hands with mortal enemies on a daily basis. thats the diplomatic way to do things. you cannot allow things to come to the personal level or you jeopardize the common goal of what you are fighting for. trust me, the hardest things for me to do are to pretend that something doesn't bother me. but we all have to sacrifice for the goal.

your opinion is respected. all i want is mine respected.



thanks.
i do respect your opinion or i would have not come into these kinds of threads in the firstplace to bring up the issue from my view.
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i do respect your opinion or i would have not come into these kinds of threads in the firstplace to bring up the issue from my view.
thanks. i guess on this board thats all we can ask of each other.
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but someone has to point out the obvious fact that putting a smile on for your "enemies" just to remain popular is pretty hypocritical. if you cannot understand that then i have nothing to explain to you.
Eric is putting a smile on his face and shaking hands with his enemies so he can remain popular with his enemies.

you doint get it and prob never will.
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Eric is putting a smile on his face and shaking hands with his enemies so he can remain popular with his enemies?



you doint get it and prob never will.
i dont have time to talk to people with very small brains who are uncapable of basic comprhension.

go back to high school, come back in 3 years, re read my posts, and if you still cannot understand them i have no help for you.
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you betcha. i shake everyones hands. men do that.

being able to respectfully disagree and let due process run its course is a characteristic that not everyone possesses. find another tree to pee on.
Thieves are not "men"...

If someone steals from me there's a much better chance of them getting knocked in the jaw than a handshake
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my balls really aren't out there really.

i got 5 job offers last week alone.

i'm not worried in the slightest about my career.
it took balls to do what you did - thats what im saying.
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it took balls to do what you did - thats what im saying.
this is the content industry speaking through me and using me as a voice to promote their newly found desire to do something about the anal reaming they are taking at the hands of common thieves.

this is not my crusade. if anyone thinks for a minute that i personally have the resources to do anything about the misuse of torrent technology and the negative application of web 2.0 tube style sites to stolen content then they are misinterpreting what is actually going on here.

i won't take credit or blame for what is transpiring.

but i do thank you for your support.
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i dont have time to talk to people with very small brains who are uncapable of basic comprhension.

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youre a dolt end of story.

ill quote A1R3K - read Sun Tsu, The Art Of War.

and ill also quote Don Corleone - keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

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youre a dolt end of story.

ill quote A1R3K - read Sun Tsu, The Art Of War.

and ill also quote Don Corleone - keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

thanks for playing.
wow you are using someone elses quotes that must make you smart.

why is it that men will be talking and boys (jonesy) have to come and chime in and ruin the thread?

i dont even know why i quoted you in the first place you do not matter. i am done in this thread, i was talking to Airek not you, he understood where i am coming from and i understood where he was coming from.

you are trying to create drama and you are ruining the thread. so i am done in here, again i dont have time to explain my posts to people without basic comprhension skills.
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bottom line.

people don't need to like the way i am going about this, all i have to do is be EFFECTIVE. that's it.

i think thats happening, so i'm doing what's expected of me.

for those woh respect my opinions, thank you.



lets all play nice, well, as nice as possible. the next period of time in adult is going to get stressful, but lets try.

thanks.

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wow you are using someone elses quotes that must make you smart.

why is it that men will be talking and boys (jonesy) have to come and chime in and ruin the thread?

i dont even know why i quoted you in the first place you do not matter. i am done in this thread, i was talking to Airek not you, he understood where i am coming from and i understood where he was coming from.

you are trying to create drama and you are ruining the thread. so i am done in here, again i dont have time to explain my posts to people without basic comprhension skills.
not trying to create drama at all -

you called eric a hypocrite, i disagree and tell you so and give a quick easy reasoning (in this case quotes) why eric, and im quoting you "shakes hands and smiles "

you dont like it tough shit.

but we do agree that torrents are hurting the industry and thats really the bottom line isnt it?

and by whatevver measures it can be stopped, from smiles and handshakes to court orders and louisville sluggers ( i kid) i say use em all.
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Whyis is there a lot of thieves??

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:07 PM   #41
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I have no problem naming names as I have already done so.

I will continue to do so unless it hurts the integrity of what I/we are doing. If you have info on anything please ICQ me, and I will ask you not ICQ me with your content saving solution, I've heard 15 ideas the last 2 days alone.

For the record if I did meet Lars on the street I'd spit in face the same I would anyone else who traffics CP around the net. Or off the net for that matter.

That is all thanks
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:35 PM   #42
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Personally, I dont talk to or shake the hands of anyone who is a thief, if i can help it. Thieves should be run out of the industry, plain and simple. They should not be welcome at industry events. Their advertising money should not be accepted. Their hands should not be shaken, and quite frankly, you should not be seen conversing with these people. It gives people the wrong impression, and the next you know people are not wanting to do business with you.

I would have to say metaman has a point, but no need to be nasty about it.

I think Airek at least deserves a little more respect then that for what he is doing, or attempting to do. Only time will tell if his efforts will actually amount to anything. I hope it does, but one can only hope.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:54 PM   #43
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VG,

You're one of the good guys. I respect you immensely. For the amount of time that you put into this thing and your outspoken, honest views, I thank you. We cannot do this alone.


swampthing,

Time will tell. I have made it widely known that if these meetings do not garnish support in the sense to make something come of our efforts, I will not spend my time pushing people to do something that is apparent needs to be done right now.

Time will tell.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:31 PM   #44
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Content Producers only for the initial round table please.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:32 PM   #45
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:37 PM   #46
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:45 PM   #47
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Lets all not get ahead of ourselves to much now though either...

I can't speak for anyone but myself, and especially do not mean this to be an implicative statement...

But there is about as much honor, to me, in being a rat, as there is in being a theif, beggar, braggart, or scammer.

Witch hunts have had their chance to flourish, and have been proven not so effective... let's keep the next few months civil, and get some serious work done to put an end to this problem.
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