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  • tony286
    lurker
    • Aug 2002
    • 57021

    #1

    Feds' Porn Ultimatum

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/08192007...non_fisher.htm
  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #2
    thanx for the link
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • bDok
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2005
      • 1917

      #3
      seriously how the fuck does this really combat CP. Like these people making that fucking crap know they are breaking the fucking law in the first place. this just places more paper work on honest webmasters. Complete BS. ugh.
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      • tony299
        lurker
        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        Originally posted by bDok
        seriously how the fuck does this really combat CP. Like these people making that fucking crap know they are breaking the fucking law in the first place. this just places more paper work on honest webmasters. Complete BS. ugh.
        It's just bust our balls, they know we dont shoot kids. Like Paul Cambria said if they cant get people on obscenity so they are going to use the regs.

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        • I am chauncy
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2006
          • 568

          #5
          now this is just ridiculous and impossible and will never happen every four years you hear these type of things are gonna happen to the adult industry and they never do why its and election year and this type of shit is all just part of the spin used to strum up support and votes from the bible thumping freaks
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          • Manowar
            jellyfish  
            • Dec 2003
            • 71528

            #6
            I guess they are just expanding 2257 to try and fuck everyone over

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            • tomeatsdinner
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2007
              • 262

              #7
              Wtf.... ...

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              • CaptainHowdy
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2004
                • 94011

                #8
                : / .......

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                • Tom_PM
                  Porn Meister
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 16443

                  #9
                  Cambria was just on the phone with MSNBC a moment ago. Interesting that it just popped up on national news over the weekend. Wonder if someone pushed to get the story out, or if it's a slow news day or what.

                  He pointed out that the law has essentially been in place for 15 yrs now, and in the last 15 yrs only 3 actresses were found to have been under 18 and all with very convincing fake ID's that would have passed anywhere.

                  He spoke about the burdensomeness of the recordkeeping and such. Nothing new really that I heard.
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                  • directfiesta
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 30140

                    #10
                    I think they should also tatoo a number on their arm ... or implant a tracker ....
                    That would also help to keep children safe ....
                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • MrPinks
                      Registered User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 1767

                      #11
                      Never happen? It has already happened.

                      Originally posted by I am chauncy
                      now this is just ridiculous and impossible and will never happen every four years you hear these type of things are gonna happen to the adult industry and they never do why its and election year and this type of shit is all just part of the spin used to strum up support and votes from the bible thumping freaks

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                      • I am chauncy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 568

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MrPinks
                        Never happen? It has already happened.

                        really? "The Department of Justice wants to come up with an official list of every porn star in America - and slap stiff penalties on producers who don't cooperate.

                        The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos"
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                        • st0ned
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 8437

                          #13
                          Originally posted by I am chauncy
                          now this is just ridiculous and impossible and will never happen every four years you hear these type of things are gonna happen to the adult industry and they never do why its and election year and this type of shit is all just part of the spin used to strum up support and votes from the bible thumping freaks
                          That's what I thought of the casino industry, Until the god damn government successfully fucked us. Lost 20k+ in earnings over night once they passed the new laws.
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                          • tony299
                            lurker
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 57021

                            #14
                            Sticky tell us how great the republicans are again. lol

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                            • jennym
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2003
                              • 1622

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tony404
                              Sticky tell us how great the republicans are again. lol
                              This is not a right/left issue. I can't believe people in this industry do not educate themselves further when it comes to who is on what side. Dems are NOT our friends either.

                              As for this particular issue, the Dems also sponsored this bill. JUST ONE of the Dems to co-sponsor this bill was none other than John Kerry himself.

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                              • stickyfingerz
                                Doin fine
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 24984

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tony404
                                Sticky tell us how great the republicans are again. lol
                                See below

                                Originally posted by jennym
                                This is not a right/left issue. I can't believe people in this industry do not educate themselves further when it comes to who is on what side. Dems are NOT our friends either.

                                As for this particular issue, the Dems also sponsored this bill. JUST ONE of the Dems to co-sponsor this bill was none other than John Kerry himself.

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                                • eroswebmaster
                                  March 1st, 2003
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 20295

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                  It's just bust our balls, they know we dont shoot kids. Like Paul Cambria said if they cant get people on obscenity so they are going to use the regs.
                                  I've been saying this since I started on this board, that the government would come after porn like they did organized crime.

                                  Can't get them on real crimes, get them on clerical ones...like tax records etc. People called me a kook back then...lol some still do.
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                                  • eroswebmaster
                                    March 1st, 2003
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 20295

                                    #18
                                    For those who say this is not a right or left issue you need a serious reality check.

                                    Of course, no self respecting politician on either side is going to say..."I stand up for porn!."

                                    However, we would definitely have an easier go at things with Democrats in power, they wouldn't be so vigilant about shutting you down.
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                                    • smack
                                      Push Porn Like Weight.
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 10652

                                      #19
                                      maybe, while we are making lists we should write up a couple more.

                                      let's make a big list of all the jews.

                                      might as well make a list of the homosexuals too.

                                      then maybe we can round them all up and, well. you know the rest.
                                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                      • stickyfingerz
                                        Doin fine
                                        • Oct 2005
                                        • 24984

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                        For those who say this is not a right or left issue you need a serious reality check.

                                        Of course, no self respecting politician on either side is going to say..."I stand up for porn!."

                                        However, we would definitely have an easier go at things with Democrats in power, they wouldn't be so vigilant about shutting you down.
                                        Tip Tip Tipper Gore......

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                                        • riabanana
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2007
                                          • 313

                                          #21
                                          I think they should mark bar codes on each and every pornstar around. lol
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                                          • pornguy
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2003
                                            • 62910

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                            For those who say this is not a right or left issue you need a serious reality check.

                                            Of course, no self respecting politician on either side is going to say..."I stand up for porn!."
                                            Maybe thats the answer right there.

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                                            • EZRhino
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 6258

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                              For those who say this is not a right or left issue you need a serious reality check.

                                              Of course, no self respecting politician on either side is going to say..."I stand up for porn!."

                                              However, we would definitely have an easier go at things with Democrats in power, they wouldn't be so vigilant about shutting you down.
                                              I really dont think that either side really has reason to see us stay in business they just want more votes for their campaign. If destroying the adult industry would help them out a Dem would try just as hard as a Republican.
                                              By the way, Republicans want us gone and Dems would just legaly regulate our industry to bankruptcy.
                                              Last edited by EZRhino; 08-20-2007, 11:09 AM.

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                                              • Baal.PitBull
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2007
                                                • 205

                                                #24
                                                The department estimates that there are 500,000 Web sites, 200 DVD producers and 5,000 businesses nationwide that would be subject to the new rule
                                                Now that made me laugh!!! only 500,000 websites?
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                                                • drjones
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                  • 908

                                                  #25
                                                  Not that I endorse this at all, I'm just legitimately curious.. all this information must be gathered anyways to comply with 2257... so how does this create much extra work, other than they want us to just send them the info, instead of them coming to our offices to inspect records?
                                                  Last edited by drjones; 08-20-2007, 11:32 AM.
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                                                  • Tom_PM
                                                    Porn Meister
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 16443

                                                    #26
                                                    Mark Klass, the voice of reason!

                                                    You may know him from the Polly Klass case. Well he's on MSNBC phone now, In answer to the question "What do you think of this new law" he replied, "I dont think the dots have been connected between adult porn and crimes against children quite frankly."

                                                    THANK YOU Mark, for having a good common sense brain! You're exactly right, there is NO CONNECTION between the legitimate Adult industry and these sick criminals that the DOJ needs to bust everyday through good old fashioned investigating! Having me keep records if I publish content is NOT putting ANYONE in jail. Thanks again for saying what others are frankly afraid to.
                                                    43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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                                                    • aico
                                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 14748

                                                      #27
                                                      Kind of a stupid question that's been bugging me since the beginning of all of this. What is to stop those who shoot illegal underage girls from just making fake IDs or changing birth dates in Photoshop? Seems pretty easy to me. It not like they have the real ID on hand, just a scan or photo of it.

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                                                      • crockett
                                                        in a van by the river
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 76818

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jennym
                                                        This is not a right/left issue. I can't believe people in this industry do not educate themselves further when it comes to who is on what side. Dems are NOT our friends either.

                                                        As for this particular issue, the Dems also sponsored this bill. JUST ONE of the Dems to co-sponsor this bill was none other than John Kerry himself.
                                                        Yes but the Dem's aren't going out of their way to push this BS.. This BS right here comes straight out of the Republican White House.
                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by aico
                                                          Kind of a stupid question that's been bugging me since the beginning of all of this. What is to stop those who shoot illegal underage girls from just making fake IDs or changing birth dates in Photoshop? Seems pretty easy to me. It not like they have the real ID on hand, just a scan or photo of it.

                                                          Nothing, and I said the same damn thing right from the start. It's nothing but BS to harass legit business in the adult industry. Anyone whom is breaking the law are going to hide from the law. They won't give their correct address and they could easily photo shop ID's.
                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                          • seeric
                                                            ..........
                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                            • 41917

                                                            #30
                                                            " The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

                                                            "The identity of every performer is critical to determining and ensuring that no performer is a minor," according to the new proposal."


                                                            havent these fucking morons heard of 2257?


                                                            this is already being done.


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                                                            • GatorB
                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                              • 18208

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jennym
                                                              This is not a right/left issue. I can't believe people in this industry do not educate themselves further when it comes to who is on what side. Dems are NOT our friends either.

                                                              As for this particular issue, the Dems also sponsored this bill. JUST ONE of the Dems to co-sponsor this bill was none other than John Kerry himself.
                                                              ZERO prosecutions under Clinton. FACT.

                                                              You can not seriously tell me that ther will as much harrasment of the pron industry if Clinmton or Edwards or almost any Dem is President than if a republican is elected.

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                                                              • Quentin
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                • 1280

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by drjones
                                                                Not that I endorse this at all, I'm just legitimately curious.. all this information must be gathered anyways to comply with 2257... so how does this create much extra work, other than they want us to just send them the info, instead of them coming to our offices to inspect records?
                                                                The NY Post may or may not realize it, but this article is about 2257.

                                                                There is no "new law" as the Post suggests - they merely screwed up the details of the story, something that sadly is quite common in media accounts pertaining to legal issues.

                                                                What the Post did here was take a theory forwarded by many adult industry attorneys - namely that the law really is not designed to abate the production of CP, but is part of an effort to create a database containing extensive info on all adult performers/companies - and they have run with that theory to the point that they are characterizing it as the explicit intent of Congress in crafting the relevant portions of the Adam Walsh Act.

                                                                There is nothing new in the NY Post story, and much of what the story states is flatly wrong.

                                                                The core of 2257 has existed for well over 10 years now, and the idea of a legal obligation to maintain ID records is not "new," and clearly was not first proposed under the Adam Walsh Act.

                                                                The "official list" they reference is the 2257 database maintained by the FBI.

                                                                Obviously, it is the FBI and not the CEOS division of the DOJ that inspects records (CEOS likely would be responsible for prosecuting offenders, but they do not conduct any record inspections).

                                                                In other words - you're right... to comply with this "new law" would be a function of complying with 2257, because the "new law" they reference IS 2257.

                                                                - Q.
                                                                Q. Boyer

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                                                                • EZRhino
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 6258

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by drjones
                                                                  Not that I endorse this at all, I'm just legitimately curious.. all this information must be gathered anyways to comply with 2257... so how does this create much extra work, other than they want us to just send them the info, instead of them coming to our offices to inspect records?
                                                                  I'm sure it shouldnt be tough but the Feds will find a way to make it tough and expensive. Remember this is never for our benifit or for children.

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                                                                  • mikesouth
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 6334

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jennym
                                                                    This is not a right/left issue. I can't believe people in this industry do not educate themselves further when it comes to who is on what side. Dems are NOT our friends either.

                                                                    As for this particular issue, the Dems also sponsored this bill. JUST ONE of the Dems to co-sponsor this bill was none other than John Kerry himself.
                                                                    THANK YOU!

                                                                    It appalls me that the anti right seems to think the Demorats are our friends....If everyone who said they were sick of our two partys that seem to have little if any difference between them would get offa their lazy asses and vote Libertarian we'd see real change.
                                                                    Mike South

                                                                    It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

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                                                                    • tranza
                                                                      ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 57559

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm just glad I don't live in the US.
                                                                      I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                      • Snake Doctor
                                                                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                        • 13449

                                                                        #36
                                                                        The 2257 law has constitutional problems with the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments.

                                                                        Let's hope we can win or at least keep it tied up for years based on those arguments. :2cents:
                                                                        sig too big

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                                                                        • tony299
                                                                          lurker
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                          ZERO prosecutions under Clinton. FACT.

                                                                          You can not seriously tell me that ther will as much harrasment of the pron industry if Clinton or Edwards or almost any Dem is President than if a republican is elected.
                                                                          Janet Reno's own words we have more important things to do then look at adult pornography.They dont want to hear that or how the biggest porn prosecutions have been under Nixon ,then Reagan.The first 2257 inspections or changing 2257 to make it so fucked up has all been under Republican admins.I think they would rather play blind then realize how truly stupid they are for supporting these people. They would rather live in their fantasy world

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                                                                          • GatorB
                                                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                                            • 18208

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                                            THANK YOU!

                                                                            It appalls me that the anti right seems to think the Demorats are our friends....If everyone who said they were sick of our two partys that seem to have little if any difference between them would get offa their lazy asses and vote Libertarian we'd see real change.
                                                                            Sure I'd rather have a true libertarian in office and in congress. They NEVER get elected. Ron Paul has a better if still slim chance at being President running as the Libertarian party candidate than trying to go for a GOP nomination he'll never get.


                                                                            As I said Linertarians are ot in power. So of those that are I have to support the ones that will do the least damage. As I said Clinton never went after ANYONE in 8 years. If teh GOP wins the Whitehouse that person could very well keep Gonzales on as AG or find another one like him. I though no one could be as bad as Ashscoft and boy was I wrong. At least with a Dem in the Whitehouse the AG won't waste time on porn.

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                                                                            • GatorB
                                                                              The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 18208

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                              The 2257 law has constitutional problems with the 1st, 4th, and 5th amendments.

                                                                              Let's hope we can win or at least keep it tied up for years based on those arguments. :2cents:
                                                                              The real problem is enforcement. In reality 99.999% of us who don't produce content will NEVER be inspected. They don't have enough personal to inspect every porn website let alone do manual on site inspections of those website owners.

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                                                                              • JP-pornshooter
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Sep 2006
                                                                                • 4007

                                                                                #40
                                                                                It would be wise to set up a non profit corporation to self monitor the industry, where we would submit and log names/age/id etc of each performer. if we have our stuff together as an industry, they cant prosecute..
                                                                                similar to AIM (the adult industry medical / testing central of all performers in LA)
                                                                                "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown

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                                                                                • FelixFlow
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 2779

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  thats fuckign ridiculous, and piggy-backing it on some 'child exploitation' bill/act is a farce - it has nothing to do with protecting children

                                                                                  when was the last time a minor was in a porn movie or dvd anyway? back in the early 80s ???!?!


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                                                                                  • stickyfingerz
                                                                                    Doin fine
                                                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                                                    • 24984

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                    ZERO prosecutions under Clinton. FACT.

                                                                                    You can not seriously tell me that ther will as much harrasment of the pron industry if Climnton or Edwards or almost any Dem is President than if a republican is elected.
                                                                                    Republican congress under Clinton FACT! Dems were only in for 2 years.

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                                                                                    • jennym
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 1622

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                                      ZERO prosecutions under Clinton. FACT.

                                                                                      You can not seriously tell me that ther will as much harrasment of the pron industry if Clinmton or Edwards or almost any Dem is President than if a republican is elected.
                                                                                      You should really proof read your posts. Anyway, nobody said anything about Clinton, and I don't really know what Edwards would do. I DO KNOW that JOHN KERRY was a CO-SPONSOR of THIS BILL. So to say that this particular problem is because of George Bush is more than a little off. Period...end of story.

                                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                      Janet Reno's own words we have more important things to do then look at adult pornography.They dont want to hear that or how the biggest porn prosecutions have been under Nixon ,then Reagan.The first 2257 inspections or changing 2257 to make it so fucked up has all been under Republican admins.I think they would rather play blind then realize how truly stupid they are for supporting these people. They would rather live in their fantasy world
                                                                                      1) I don't agree with THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE being a right/left issue so I am stupid?? Thanks for the maturity in your argument. You have come across no better than the average immature, uneducated GFY fool in this comment. Therefore your opinion just lost any weight it may have had with me.
                                                                                      2) See above

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                                                                                      • stickyfingerz
                                                                                        Doin fine
                                                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                                                        • 24984

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Quentin
                                                                                        The NY Post may or may not realize it, but this article is about 2257.

                                                                                        There is no "new law" as the Post suggests - they merely screwed up the details of the story, something that sadly is quite common in media accounts pertaining to legal issues.

                                                                                        What the Post did here was take a theory forwarded by many adult industry attorneys - namely that the law really is not designed to abate the production of CP, but is part of an effort to create a database containing extensive info on all adult performers/companies - and they have run with that theory to the point that they are characterizing it as the explicit intent of Congress in crafting the relevant portions of the Adam Walsh Act.

                                                                                        There is nothing new in the NY Post story, and much of what the story states is flatly wrong.

                                                                                        The core of 2257 has existed for well over 10 years now, and the idea of a legal obligation to maintain ID records is not "new," and clearly was not first proposed under the Adam Walsh Act.

                                                                                        The "official list" they reference is the 2257 database maintained by the FBI.

                                                                                        Obviously, it is the FBI and not the CEOS division of the DOJ that inspects records (CEOS likely would be responsible for prosecuting offenders, but they do not conduct any record inspections).

                                                                                        In other words - you're right... to comply with this "new law" would be a function of complying with 2257, because the "new law" they reference IS 2257.

                                                                                        - Q.
                                                                                        Hmmmm I think I said this same thing (a much shorter versions hehe) in a nother thread and was told I was wrong..

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                                                                                        • aico
                                                                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 14748

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                                          Republican congress under Clinton FACT! Dems were only in for 2 years.
                                                                                          Congress doesn't pick the Attorney General, the President does FACT!

                                                                                          "The FBI is joining [BOLD]the Bush administration's War on Porn[/BOLD]. And it's looking for a few good agents... ...describing the initiative as "one of the top priorities" of Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales..."
                                                                                          Last edited by aico; 08-20-2007, 03:01 PM.

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                                                                                          • tony299
                                                                                            lurker
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 57021

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by jennym
                                                                                            You should really proof read your posts. Anyway, nobody said anything about Clinton, and I don't really know what Edwards would do. I DO KNOW that JOHN KERRY was a CO-SPONSOR of THIS BILL. So to say that this particular problem is because of George Bush is more than a little off. Period...end of story.


                                                                                            1) I don't agree with THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE being a right/left issue so I am stupid?? Thanks for the maturity in your argument. You have come across no better than the average immature, uneducated GFY fool in this comment. Therefore your opinion just lost any weight it may have had with me.
                                                                                            2) See above
                                                                                            Of course it lost any weight because im right to vote for a republican and being in porn is stupid, I reread my post I didnt call you stupid now if the shoe fits not my fault. Its like being a jew and voting for the nazi's.The dems arent our friends but we are not a top priority.

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                                                                                            • tony299
                                                                                              lurker
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 57021

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by aico
                                                                                              Congress doesn't pick the Attorney General, the President does FACT!
                                                                                              They dont want to look at that. Shhh your making sense.

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                                                                                              • GreyWolf
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jun 2007
                                                                                                • 2036

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Interesting link Tony.

                                                                                                When is the DOJ Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section going to address the 50%+ of the world's net CP which is currently hosted on servers within it's jurisdiction???

                                                                                                Diversions into the world of "porn stars" where it is clearly obvious they are of legal age, has nothing to do with "child exploitation" - it never did have.

                                                                                                Perhaps the DOJ might concentrate on criminal activity and stop avoiding work by contemplating irrelevant laws (and forget election bullshit) and deal with the backlog of known CP purveyors, websites and the many 1000's of IP's related to CP which have still not been tracked or acted upon? How long does it take to get some action on this??? One year? Five years?? More??

                                                                                                Silvia Saint, Jenna, Raven Riley, Nicole Graves, Briana Banks et al were children at one time, but have developed since then - perhaps the DOJ never noticed??

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                                                                                                • aico
                                                                                                  Moo Moo Cow
                                                                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                                                                  • 14748

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Link to story
                                                                                                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091901570.html
                                                                                                  since I fubar'd the edit above.
                                                                                                  Last edited by aico; 08-20-2007, 03:04 PM.

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                                                                                                  • tony299
                                                                                                    lurker
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by GreyWolf
                                                                                                    Interesting link Tony.

                                                                                                    When is the DOJ Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section going to address the 50%+ of the world's net CP which is currently hosted on servers within it's jurisdiction???

                                                                                                    Diversions into the world of "porn stars" where it is clearly obvious they are of legal age, has nothing to do with "child exploitation" - it never did have.

                                                                                                    Perhaps the DOJ might concentrate on criminal activity and stop avoiding work by contemplating irrelevant laws (and forget election bullshit) and deal with the backlog of known CP purveyors, websites and the many 1000's of IP's related to CP which have still not been tracked or acted upon? How long does it take to get some action on this??? One year? Five years?? More??

                                                                                                    Silvia Saint, Jenna, Raven Riley, Nicole Graves, Briana Banks et al were children at one time, but have developed since then - perhaps the DOJ never noticed??
                                                                                                    Unfortunately you can't blame the doj,this shit comes from on top and rolls down. Im sure they would rather be going after real crimes against children.

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