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maxcom · 09-08-2002, 06:04 PM

Hi All,
Every gallery I send to Elephant List gets declined for some reason. I just get an email with the link to the rules. Could someone clarify this for me? What am I doing wrong?

Latest declined gallery:
http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/

Thanks,
Max

Brown Bear · 09-08-2002, 06:06 PM

Thats a nice looking gallery. If I had to guess I would think that he doesn't like how you wrapped the thumbs around the banner.

But if I was him I would list that gallery.

Ace-Ace · 09-08-2002, 06:06 PM

Didn't read the whole post, but I saw the word Elephant - you need to get with Gary.

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 06:07 PM

Whos Gary? And why do I need to get with him?

Marcus · 09-08-2002, 06:07 PM

he wants a block of photos not photos wrapped around a banner

he says this in his rules

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 06:08 PM

Damn. 18 declined galleries later. Thank you so much.
-max

Ride · 09-08-2002, 06:08 PM

Just remove all the banners, that is what he wants.

dirtyone · 09-08-2002, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
he wants a block of photos not photos wrapped around a banner

he says this in his rules

I agree... He is one tough guy to get listed with anyway (at least for me) so little stuff like that makes it even harder.

Paparazzi · 09-08-2002, 06:12 PM

and list his recip at the top of your gallery

Theo · 09-08-2002, 06:16 PM

remove the only ad and resubmit

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 06:17 PM

LOL thats some funny shit. Now GFY

some_idiot · 09-08-2002, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
remove the only ad and resubmit

Agreed, ONLY way to get there is pay for a listing
... or submit a 60pic no ads gallery on your own T3
bandwidth.

is 5K worth fretting over?

kronic · 09-08-2002, 06:47 PM

When I submit a gallery with babes or teens and if I get listed, I usually get listed at or near the bottom.

If I submit some scraggly hag with 30 extra pounds I DO get a top 5 listing.

Hoffmann's very picky. He does only want his recip at the top and doesn't take certain sponsors. He also appears to like pics that are out of the norm.

BUT, his traffic is excellent. So, I make him happy and make galleries that I only submit to the elephant list.

Choker · 09-08-2002, 06:48 PM

I think he likes his recip only on the gallery. I put it on the bottom of the gallery and he usually lists them.

Dopy · 09-08-2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
remove the only ad and resubmit

Soul thats not the way I showed you. Forgot to tell him to put it back after its listed.

gothweb · 09-08-2002, 07:00 PM

I was wondering if maybe you could manage to compress those pictures a little more. I can almost see the girl in some of them.

As for the requirements...If a TGP is rigging things so you won't be able to generate any sales, I say "fuck em". What's the point? All of the rules are about nothing more than making sure you don't make any money.

I see bullshit. It's everywhere, and webmasters don't even know it's bullshit. ;)

kenny · 09-08-2002, 07:05 PM

You have to pay or be his friend

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 07:10 PM

Wait a sec.. "- For serie galleries, you must submit a full set, not 1/2 of the serie; "

Meaning he wants me to put all 107 pics up?
Damn...

(this is so gonna get some smartass comments lol)

SleazyDream · 09-08-2002, 07:35 PM

why is it people make a gallery and INSTANTLY EXPECT, DEMAND and REQUIRE that it be listed? Big TGPs get 2000+ submissions a day. most list about 50-80. how is the TGP supposed to know if you arn't gona screw him around and change the gallery to a popup or some other shit? They already have submitters they know and trust. Ask yourself this question, ok, it's a good gallery, but so are the other 2000 to pick from. why would he/she pick mine?

nuvolenji · 09-08-2002, 07:56 PM

I kinda agree with what Sleazy says... Over the last couple of years the average quality of galleries has improved a lot... I am trying to resubmit stuff I built one year ago and the results I got are nowhere near what I got last year, both in terms of traffic and clickthrough ratio (not to mention joins).

In any case, I have some listings with Elephant List every now and then and what the guy likes is a block of pics in the center of the page with no ads between the pictures... only on the top and bottom of the page... If you do that you can probably get listings with galleries even not as good as the one you posted here...

just my 2cents anyway...

Nbritte · 09-08-2002, 07:59 PM

I think that once you make sure you follow the rules it is just a matter of if the gallery strikes his fancy. these two gallery were listed
http://www.shemale-heaven.com/gallery/02/avenue79.html
and
http://www.shemale-heaven.com/gallery/01/avenue79.html
but every pther gallery submitted using this same layout was declined. I figure it only takes a minute to submit them eventually there will be one he likes and it will get approved.

Brian

Jizar II · 09-08-2002, 08:04 PM

What email should we use for advertising inquiries on Elephantlist? It was not to be seen on the site it self?

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 08:14 PM

so...

TGP BUTTON(s)
468x80 banner
5 rows of 5 pics
468x80 banner

... should get listed? Maybe I spent too much time on the layout and such. Would you guys say a gallery like that is more likely to get listed everywhere else as well?

-max

Ramster · 09-08-2002, 08:22 PM

I usually get half my galleries listed there. Great traffic! Usually I block the pictures for the most part with a text link only between them and a banner too somewhere. No recip I submit to him.

Now, like Sleazy said. These guys get tons of submissions. Could have already had plenty of good galleries for that day.

Exxxotica · 09-08-2002, 08:45 PM

Message deleted.... because I dont want to get img src'd by a fucking elephant.

kenny · 09-08-2002, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica
Message deleted.... because I dont want to get img src'd by a fucking elephant.

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 09:06 PM

Ok, just posted this one. Think itl get in?

http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/el.htm

-max

klik · 09-08-2002, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom
Ok, just posted this one. Think itl get in?

http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/el.htm

-max

Yeah.. it might work.

kenny · 09-08-2002, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom
Ok, just posted this one. Think itl get in?

http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/el.htm

-max

Just keep tryin eventually you will get one listed, he sends soild traffic that converts so its worth it

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 09:26 PM

kenny, is that a vote for no?

kenny · 09-08-2002, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom
kenny, is that a vote for no?

Just dont worry about it so much, keep making galleries and submit them and eventually he will list one.
I am not saying that he will list it or not. Elephant list in my own opinion is the hardest TGP to get listed on.

Steve · 09-08-2002, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom
Ok, just posted this one. Think itl get in?

http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/el.htm

-max

I doubt it - if you move that middle text link UNDERNEATH the block of pics, that will be within his rules. What the heck is so hard to figure out here?

Do not wrap pics around ads for his submits - and what do you do? wrap the pics around a text link and submit away. Do you know what? If I were him, I'd get sick of seeing you making the same mistake and blacklist you. Just so I have to hit the decline button one less time a day.

kenny · 09-08-2002, 09:49 PM

Hell only about half the galleries I make even get past the submission form because the sponsor is blacklisted

Dice TGP · 09-08-2002, 09:50 PM

Have you not read half the posts here? It might get listed, it might not. I'd say your second one has a better chance, but that doesn't change the fact that he gets 2k submissions a day, and that 500 of them are as clean or more clean than yours. Unless you know him or pay for spots, not every gallery you submit will get listed. Just submit good galleries on a regular basis, and you'll start getting listed more often.

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

I doubt it - if you move that middle text link UNDERNEATH the block of pics, that will be within his rules. What the heck is so hard to figure out here?

Do not wrap pics around ads for his submits - and what do you do? wrap the pics around a text link and submit away. Do you know what? If I were him, I'd get sick of seeing you making the same mistake and blacklist you. Just so I have to hit the decline button one less time a day.

Actually... the pics arent "wrapping" the text link. theyre above and below it. None on the sides.

jimmy3way · 09-08-2002, 10:01 PM

I get listed just about every place...cept Elephant List and Worldsex.

Dunno why, my galleries are fine.

I think they're EXTREEE picky.

kenny · 09-08-2002, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmy3way
I get listed just about every place...cept Elephant List and Worldsex.

Dunno why, my galleries are fine.

I think they're EXTREEE picky.

I could get them in worldsex and elephant list, I just cant seem to get one in AL4A, for some reason I only get a confirm email 50% of the time

Steve · 09-08-2002, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxcom

Actually... the pics arent "wrapping" the text link. theyre above and below it. None on the sides.

wrapping - sandwiching - whatever - the guys has in his rules that he does not want the block of pics broken up with ads

keep doing what you're doing - knock yourself out

maxcom · 09-08-2002, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve

wrapping - sandwiching - whatever - the guys has in his rules that he does not want the block of pics broken up with ads

keep doing what you're doing - knock yourself out

with 1722+ posts, ill listen to you

09-08-2002, 06:04 PM	#1
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	Elephant List Listing Hi All, Every gallery I send to Elephant List gets declined for some reason. I just get an email with the link to the rules. Could someone clarify this for me? What am I doing wrong? Latest declined gallery: http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/ Thanks, Max

09-08-2002, 06:06 PM	#2
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Thats a nice looking gallery. If I had to guess I would think that he doesn't like how you wrapped the thumbs around the banner. But if I was him I would list that gallery. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

09-08-2002, 06:06 PM	#3
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09-08-2002, 06:12 PM	#9
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09-08-2002, 06:48 PM	#14
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09-08-2002, 06:07 PM	#4
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	Whos Gary? And why do I need to get with him?

09-08-2002, 06:07 PM	#5
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	he wants a block of photos not photos wrapped around a banner he says this in his rules

09-08-2002, 06:08 PM	#6
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	Damn. 18 declined galleries later. Thank you so much. -max

09-08-2002, 06:08 PM	#7
Ride Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: FL, USA Posts: 103	Just remove all the banners, that is what he wants.

09-08-2002, 06:16 PM	#10
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	remove the only ad and resubmit

09-08-2002, 06:17 PM	#11
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	LOL thats some funny shit. Now GFY

09-08-2002, 06:47 PM	#13
kronic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 964	When I submit a gallery with babes or teens and if I get listed, I usually get listed at or near the bottom. If I submit some scraggly hag with 30 extra pounds I DO get a top 5 listing. Hoffmann's very picky. He does only want his recip at the top and doesn't take certain sponsors. He also appears to like pics that are out of the norm. BUT, his traffic is excellent. So, I make him happy and make galleries that I only submit to the elephant list.

09-08-2002, 07:00 PM	#16
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I was wondering if maybe you could manage to compress those pictures a little more. I can almost see the girl in some of them. As for the requirements...If a TGP is rigging things so you won't be able to generate any sales, I say "fuck em". What's the point? All of the rules are about nothing more than making sure you don't make any money. I see bullshit. It's everywhere, and webmasters don't even know it's bullshit. ;) __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

09-08-2002, 07:05 PM	#17
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	You have to pay or be his friend

09-08-2002, 07:10 PM	#18
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	Wait a sec.. "- For serie galleries, you must submit a full set, not 1/2 of the serie; " Meaning he wants me to put all 107 pics up? Damn... (this is so gonna get some smartass comments lol)

09-08-2002, 07:35 PM	#19
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	why is it people make a gallery and INSTANTLY EXPECT, DEMAND and REQUIRE that it be listed? Big TGPs get 2000+ submissions a day. most list about 50-80. how is the TGP supposed to know if you arn't gona screw him around and change the gallery to a popup or some other shit? They already have submitters they know and trust. Ask yourself this question, ok, it's a good gallery, but so are the other 2000 to pick from. why would he/she pick mine? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

09-08-2002, 07:56 PM	#20
nuvolenji Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 118	I kinda agree with what Sleazy says... Over the last couple of years the average quality of galleries has improved a lot... I am trying to resubmit stuff I built one year ago and the results I got are nowhere near what I got last year, both in terms of traffic and clickthrough ratio (not to mention joins). In any case, I have some listings with Elephant List every now and then and what the guy likes is a block of pics in the center of the page with no ads between the pictures... only on the top and bottom of the page... If you do that you can probably get listings with galleries even not as good as the one you posted here... just my 2cents anyway...

09-08-2002, 07:59 PM	#21
Nbritte Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kentucky USA Posts: 689	I think that once you make sure you follow the rules it is just a matter of if the gallery strikes his fancy. these two gallery were listed http://www.shemale-heaven.com/gallery/02/avenue79.html and http://www.shemale-heaven.com/gallery/01/avenue79.html but every pther gallery submitted using this same layout was declined. I figure it only takes a minute to submit them eventually there will be one he likes and it will get approved. Brian

09-08-2002, 08:04 PM	#22
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	What email should we use for advertising inquiries on Elephantlist? It was not to be seen on the site it self?

09-08-2002, 08:14 PM	#23
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	so... TGP BUTTON(s) 468x80 banner 5 rows of 5 pics 468x80 banner ... should get listed? Maybe I spent too much time on the layout and such. Would you guys say a gallery like that is more likely to get listed everywhere else as well? -max

09-08-2002, 08:22 PM	#24
Ramster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,447	I usually get half my galleries listed there. Great traffic! Usually I block the pictures for the most part with a text link only between them and a banner too somewhere. No recip I submit to him. Now, like Sleazy said. These guys get tons of submissions. Could have already had plenty of good galleries for that day. __________________ Fcuk Cash - Backroom Casting Couch, ExCoGi, BlackAmbush DarkReach Cash - Top Pornstars & Sites Skype: robmurray999 Email: rob-at-paysitemanagers.com

09-08-2002, 08:45 PM	#25
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	Message deleted.... because I dont want to get img src'd by a fucking elephant. __________________ Needs some really great hosting? Black Seven note: I do not work for Blackseven... Im just grateful for their kick ass hosting...so quit bothering them when I hurt your feelings... pussy Last edited by Exxxotica; 09-08-2002 at 08:47 PM..

09-08-2002, 09:06 PM	#27
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	Ok, just posted this one. Think itl get in? http://www.allteensite.com/tar1/el.htm -max

09-08-2002, 09:26 PM	#30
maxcom Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 447	kenny, is that a vote for no?

09-08-2002, 09:49 PM	#33
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Hell only about half the galleries I make even get past the submission form because the sponsor is blacklisted

09-08-2002, 09:50 PM	#34
Dice TGP Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 228	Have you not read half the posts here? It might get listed, it might not. I'd say your second one has a better chance, but that doesn't change the fact that he gets 2k submissions a day, and that 500 of them are as clean or more clean than yours. Unless you know him or pay for spots, not every gallery you submit will get listed. Just submit good galleries on a regular basis, and you'll start getting listed more often.

09-08-2002, 10:01 PM	#36
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	I get listed just about every place...cept Elephant List and Worldsex. Dunno why, my galleries are fine. I think they're EXTREEE picky. __________________ One thing, I forgot this last detail: the Biz Markie will always prevail.