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Old 08-16-2007, 08:52 PM   #1
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CIA and FBI fuck with Wikipedia entries

Would this be another case of trying to re-write history?

http://www.reuters.com/article/techn...rpc=22&sp=true
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:53 PM   #2
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I heard that today on http://www.airamerica.com
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:05 PM   #3
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Hardly a surprise coming from the least intelligent intelligence service on the planet and the most under-performing law agency in the western world

Plenty good people working within these orgs, but hell - are they purveyors of the biggest load of shit ever and incapable of admitting error - in any way.
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:23 PM   #4
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Hardly a surprise coming from the least intelligent intelligence service on the planet and the most under-performing law agency in the western world

Plenty good people working within these orgs, but hell - are they purveyors of the biggest load of shit ever and incapable of admitting error - in any way.
Perhaps in the past there used to be checks and balances within the domestic and foreign intelligence agencies, but with the creation of the Homeland Security Department "end-around", the Bush Administration has stacked the deck with like-minded surrogates, while sytematically purging the FBI and CIA of people with differing ideologies (through attrition due to retirement, outright firings, etc).

It may take decades to undue the mess created by the Bush, Cheney, Rove crew, and establish some sort of balance again within our leading intelligence agencies, so that partisan political acts are mitigated at least in part, by some sort of reasonable balanced inquiry representing all of the people of the country, and not just certain political partisan viewpoints.

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Old 08-16-2007, 09:27 PM   #5
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Old 08-16-2007, 09:43 PM   #6
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Perhaps in the past there used to be checks and balances within the domestic and foreign intelligence agencies, but with the creation of the Homeland Security Department "end-around", the Bush Administration has stacked the deck with like-minded surrogates, while sytematically purging the FBI and CIA of people with differing ideologies (through attrition due to retirement, outright firings, etc).

It may take decades to undue the mess created by the Bush, Cheney, Rove crew, and establish some sort of balance again within our leading intelligence agencies, so that partisan political acts are mitigated at least in part, by some sort of reasonable balanced inquiry representing all of the people of the country, and not just certain political partisan viewpoints.

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Suspect that is the problem The CIA are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea and, who knows, but probably too close an association with politicians who appear to be hell bent on their own agendas and using/abusing intell and military resources even when these are not in the interests of the country as a whole and can't actually be justified with accurate data of substance.

Agree.. the damage at every level is sad and going to take a lot of effort to get back to sanity and take a fairly long time. Other sad bit is others have paid the ultimate price for this - and taxpayers will still be paying a decade from now.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:02 PM   #7
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Suspect that is the problem The CIA are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea and, who knows, but probably too close an association with politicians who appear to be hell bent on their own agendas and using/abusing intell and military resources even when these are not in the interests of the country as a whole and can't actually be justified with accurate data of substance.

Agree.. the damage at every level is sad and going to take a lot of effort to get back to sanity and take a fairly long time. Other sad bit is others have paid the ultimate price for this - and taxpayers will still be paying a decade from now.
I agree.

Just like we have seperation of church and state, we should have a seperation of state and intel agencies such as the CIA, NSA, and FBI. Intel coming out of these agencies should never be dictated from the Oval Office.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:39 PM   #8
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This is the equivalent of the US Government going into a regular history book company and forcing them to change what is written. This should be the top story on the news tonight.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:43 PM   #9
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Add the NSA to that along with fox news and a few other big news sources.
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Old 08-16-2007, 10:58 PM   #10
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More insidious than the partisanship of the intelligence agencies, mostly filled with rank and file patriotic people, is the military-industrial complex, that mostly operates in the shadows.

These "private companies", that often count ex-politicians on their board of directors, and are filled with revolving door lobbyists and political aides, have an agenda entirely of their own.

They are amoral in their quest for profits, simultaneously creating and sucking off of the "black budget" which the people never see, since we are not to be trusted with knowing where our taxpayer money actually goes.

The Abramoff scandal was the tip of the iceberg, and was only revealed since it dealt with Indian tribal affairs, and not weapons building programs, and the profits of the private companies behind these enterprises.

At some point I do hope that there will be a groundswell of support for a better system of government, where the politicians work for the people rather than the other way around, but I am not optimistic, since most power rests in the hands of people hellbent on maintaining the status quo.

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Old 08-16-2007, 11:15 PM   #11
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There are some things that it would just be smart not to post on the net. For instance photos of Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

when you do something like that, you are endangering the lives of the soldiers that are stationed there.
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Old 08-16-2007, 11:34 PM   #12
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Loosing your control ???

What a joke...

If you all don't have a understanding of how the "Internet" came to be and the roles of ARPA & DARPA and how they played their roles in the past... and what they are doing currently then how can you say just now that they have just began to take some control ???

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Old 08-17-2007, 12:09 AM   #13
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What a joke...

If you all don't have a understanding of how the "Internet" came to be and the roles of ARPA & DARPA and how they played their roles in the past... and what they are doing currently then how can you say just now that they have just began to take some control ???

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Old 08-17-2007, 12:15 AM   #14
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After reading that entire article, I didn't make note of any change mentioned that the FBI or CIA might have made via the wiki interface that could be construed as out of line, imho.



Well... except maybe the deletion of photographs... but I dunno.
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