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RawAlex · 08-15-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_in_Support

SO NOW I WILL MAKE IT CLEARER FOR ALL YOU OUT THERE WITH A PROVERBIAL STICK UP YOUR ASS< IF YOU THINK XTUBE IS DOING BAD BUSINESS OR IS SOMEWAY HARMING YOU, GET IN CONTACT WITH US AND WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU. SURE YOU CANT FIND OUT WHETHER YOUR CONTENT WAS PUT UP BY A PERSON WHO WAS NOT ONE OF YOUR AFFILIATES, BUT WE CAN. THIS DEMONIZATION OF TUBE SITES STEALING IS RATHER BULLSHIT< NOW THAT YOU HAVE A COURSE OF PREVENTATIVE ACTION

Way to go there all caps dude.

Can you point me to any affiliate program that gives affiliates the rights to distribute content on sites they don't own? Any?

BusterBunny · 08-15-2007, 01:00 PM

board lag got me

XTube_Lance · 08-15-2007, 01:01 PM

Megan, you are right. Sorry that our controversial website got in the way. This will be the final comment from XTube within this thread.

XTube is about amateur porn. We can completely cut off and prevent future DMCA violations, and I will outline that in a thread I am authoring right now. If you are interested, you will find it.

Libertine · 08-15-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_in_Support

SO NOW I WILL MAKE IT CLEARER FOR ALL YOU OUT THERE WITH A PROVERBIAL STICK UP YOUR ASS< IF YOU THINK XTUBE IS DOING BAD BUSINESS OR IS SOMEWAY HARMING YOU, GET IN CONTACT WITH US AND WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU. SURE YOU CANT FIND OUT WHETHER YOUR CONTENT WAS PUT UP BY A PERSON WHO WAS NOT ONE OF YOUR AFFILIATES, BUT WE CAN. THIS DEMONIZATION OF TUBE SITES STEALING IS RATHER BULLSHIT< NOW THAT YOU HAVE A COURSE OF PREVENTATIVE ACTION

Dude, that's what all the tubes, torrent sites, newsgroup sites, filesharing sites, boards, etc say. There are hundreds of them. How are small businesses supposed to monitor them all, and contact them when something goes wrong?

Many adult sites are run by just one or two people. Monitoring all the filesharing sites is a full time job.

seeric · 08-15-2007, 01:04 PM

yup.

there is no justification.

just like its ethically unacceptable and morally wrong to profit from stolen property, its ethically unacceptable to profit and knowingly support the theft of content through financed piracy. doesn't matter if someone stole your neighbors t.v. and gave it to you to sell for a profit, you're still involved.

fact.

Brujah · 08-15-2007, 01:27 PM

When will the first lawyer step up get a million dollar award for a company against one of these torrent sites? Do you think it will happen, or not?

»Rob Content« · 08-15-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content

I think the best way to go about it is to list why....

I will compile my list this way

Bad Business Decision Makers:

1 aff/cams/streamray Former Zango user, current torrent, passwordsite, rapidshare supporter
2 sexbankroll current zango user
3 sexsearch current zango user
4 movieprofits/wildcash current torrent supporter
5 hornymatches current torrent supporter
6 dating gold current torrent supporter
7 fleshlight current torrent supporter
8 fling current torrent supporter
9 avnads/adbrite sell ads on torrents
10 myfreepaysite torrent supporter
11 wegcash torrent supporter

I'll add more later, if anyone questions any of these let me know and i'll provide proof thanks...

new page

RawAlex · 08-15-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

yup.

there is no justification.

just like its ethically unacceptable and morally wrong to profit from stolen property, its ethically unacceptable to profit and knowingly support the theft of content through financed piracy. doesn't matter if someone stole your neighbors t.v. and gave it to you to sell for a profit, you're still involved.

fact.

I have the same opinion of tube sites that I do of the local fence selling stuff that "fell off the truck". You don't have to be too fucking smart to figure out the stuff is stolen.

RawAlex · 08-15-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

When will the first lawyer step up get a million dollar award for a company against one of these torrent sites? Do you think it will happen, or not?

not torrents, but tubes are in trouble, see viacom versus google / youtube. Google is going to get it hard up their ass.

sonofsam · 08-15-2007, 01:32 PM

I nominate PRADult.com for the bad business list.

seeric · 08-15-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

I have the same opinion of tube sites that I do of the local fence selling stuff that "fell off the truck". You don't have to be too fucking smart to figure out the stuff is stolen.

they're the guys in the van at the gas station or supermarket parking lot that pull up to you and ask you if you wanna buy the extra entertainment system that they got off the delivery truck.

Deej · 08-15-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

I nominate PRADult.com for the bad business list.

WTF??

teg0 · 08-15-2007, 01:34 PM

Super Bad Ass Awesome Business List

1. Adult Blog Themes
2.
3.
4.
5.

baddog · 08-15-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

I nominate PRADult.com for the bad business list.

I have you on ignore so if this had not been pointed out to me I would have missed it.

Just how exactly is PRadult doing anything that would be considered anywhere close to being "bad business?"

You had better watch your step Sammy boy.

GITZINGER · 08-15-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_in_Support

GITZINGER, Do yourself a favor and read my post. Nuff Said

I did, now read mine again, cause that's the truth of what you are doing.

Nuff Said.

Noob.

ServerGenius · 08-15-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SWorldMegan

Can we please start with "Good Business Practice Guidelines" .. I think that will be the correct first step.

Also is there a few people who would like to donate sometime to working on writing up these gudielines?

It was not exactly my intention for this to become a bash fest ... it IS my intention to REWARD other people in the business taking a stand for our industry as a whole. The idea is that we can reward those people with higher payouts, marketing, deals, branding .. whatever. Basically an exclusive list of people we will do business with ... so that in the future .... GOOD BUSINESS PRACTICE PAYS MORE!

xoxo,
Megan

I will come back with a setup both system wise and regarding guidelines.
Then we can debate and decide on a which guidelines we'll go with to
start and take it from there.

D · 08-15-2007, 01:54 PM

Deej · 08-15-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

I nominate PRADult.com for the bad business list.

I think someone is bitter....

seeric · 08-15-2007, 02:06 PM

meowwwww

Aneros Josh · 08-15-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

they're the guys in the van at the gas station or supermarket parking lot that pull up to you and ask you if you wanna buy the extra entertainment system that they got off the delivery truck.

Yet you post youtube links on here all the time (and yes, I can pull up SEVERAL threads where you have done so)...hypocrisies are a funny thing

ultimatebbwdotcom · 08-15-2007, 02:21 PM

It seems that many an honest webmaster has the onus placed on them to get unauthorized material removed from sites that share content.....

Maybe listed/suspected/proven.... whatever, shady business sites should have the onus placed on "them" to show they meet the guidelines to get off the list.

Hoop jumping to get things done can go both ways.

seeric · 08-15-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJosh

Yet you post youtube links on here all the time (and yes, I can pull up SEVERAL threads where you have done so)...hypocrisies are a funny thing

whats your point?

you see any fucking shanes world ads next to it where i make money?

don't start josh. seriously.

YOU MAKE MONEY FROM STOLEN CONTENT@!!!!!!!!!!!

people put their shit on you tube to viral market it.

torrent sites put STOLEN SHIT ON THERE NETWORKS AND PUT UP YOUR ADS TO MAKE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jesus where does fleshlight get you guys?

TurboAngel · 08-15-2007, 02:35 PM

Boy this got long.

Helix · 08-15-2007, 02:39 PM

When the list of requirements is defined please let me know.
Fuckinhorny does not let users upload files - no DMCA violations possible.
We only use sponsor provided teaser clips.
We only use 2257 compliant sponsors.
You can signup and use our system without any worries of violations.

Aneros Josh · 08-15-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

whats your point?

you see any fucking shanes world ads next to it where i make money?

don't start josh. seriously.

YOU MAKE MONEY FROM STOLEN CONTENT@!!!!!!!!!!!

people put their shit on you tube to viral market it.

torrent sites put STOLEN SHIT ON THERE NETWORKS AND PUT UP YOUR ADS TO MAKE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jesus where does fleshlight get you guys?

And what stats do you think youtube used to sell their site to google? Just a lucky guess here but I would venture to say it had something to do with the number of people who view their videos everyday

ultimatebbwdotcom · 08-15-2007, 02:57 PM

I dont think people went to youtube to see the adverts - they went to upload or view video.....a bunch of that video would have violated copyrights.

Take the copyrighted video away and youtube is a bunch of retards talking into a camera about how life sucks or setting a firework off in their pants.

Sure it would generate traffic, nowhere near as much though...making advertising spots less attractive - and the sale price of youtube would have been way shittier - just a guess

leedsfan · 08-15-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo

Good Business List

1. Shane's World
2. AlleyBucks
3. Mallcom
4. Webair
5. Octology Media (SexStuffSells.com)
6. EdgeX Media - Whores Illustrated
7. Naughty America
8. SinnersCash.com
9. HushMoney.com / Hush Hush Entertainment
10. RadicalCash.com
11. National Net

12. Banking Bucks

GAMEFINEST · 08-15-2007, 02:59 PM

the pages are growing ...

NaughtyAce · 08-15-2007, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=signupdamnit;12932933]I have to add Naughty America to the good list. They seem top notch and have always been good to their affiliates. Case in point, a few months back where they caught someone using adware and actually returned the sales back to the rightful affiliate refferrers.

So we have (from what I see so far):

--------------------------------------------

Good Business List

1. Shane's World
2. Webair
3. Naughty America
4. AlleyBucks
5.

-add more

Thanks for adding us in.
We fully support the stopping of illegal sharing and downloading of content.
We constantly are at battle with websites looking to rip our content off through these networks. Though hard to police, one site at a time is all you can do for now.
I'm open to any suggestions to help curtail this type of business.

GooSearch · 08-15-2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Helix

When the list of requirements is defined please let me know.
.

the way this thread has gone it will never happen... every sponsor is jumping in saying i am a good company blah blah blah,.,, that their opinion.. and this list of good sponsors grows.. but who the fuck said so.. the program owners..this will never work unless there is structure... and from the way people handle things here nothing will ever come of it

tony286 · 08-15-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GooSearch

the way this thread has gone it will never happen... every sponsor is jumping in saying i am a good company blah blah blah,.,, that their opinion.. and this list of good sponsors grows.. but who the fuck said so.. the program owners..this will never work unless there is structure... and from the way people handle things here nothing will ever come of it

I dont think that's going to happen, A1R3K & Megan are very serious. This shit is getting way out of hand. They are getting bolder and bolder, now charging for sites of content they host. This hurts especially if you want to give quality produce and it has to stop.

EdgeXXX · 08-15-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GooSearch

the way this thread has gone it will never happen... every sponsor is jumping in saying i am a good company blah blah blah,.,, that their opinion.. and this list of good sponsors grows.. but who the fuck said so.. the program owners..this will never work unless there is structure... and from the way people handle things here nothing will ever come of it

The guidelines are in the process of being created. In order for them to be effective (and loophole free) the guidelines will have to be thorough. It's not something that can just be thrown together. As far as the current list, don't worry about it until they are official.

seeric · 08-15-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont think that's going to happen, A1R3K & Megan are very serious. This shit is getting way out of hand. They are getting bolder and bolder, now charging for sites of content they host. This hurts especially if you want to give quality produce and it has to stop.

we are going to set up a roundtable here in l.a.

i've already talked to people about setting up an association legally and establishing a board where program owners, affiliates, hosting companies, processors, and anyone else on the legitimate business side.

anyone interested in stopping this crap will be openly invited to participate.

technical people. video specialists. security specialists. content prodcuers. this is an industry problem affecting many many parts of it so it needs to be dealt with on an industry level.

what some people need to get out of their heads is this is not an attack on any one company. this is an industry problem and no one person is singled out. anyone profiting from piracy is in the cross hairs. this is not an airek thing or a shanes world thing, its an industry thing. without industry support it will die and die fast.

come with the money and support to fix the problems. we are all in this together. we must all contribute to it together. personally i would rather have this handled by a non profit neutral association created by the industry through a board and a process in accordance, than through the fsc's interests. they have their hands full with 2257 and the like and i believe that an association that focuses on just piracy may be better suited headed up by content producers and people directly affected by piracy.

these things will take some time.

baddog · 08-15-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJosh

And what stats do you think youtube used to sell their site to google? Just a lucky guess here but I would venture to say it had something to do with the number of people who view their videos everyday

I guess I am lost . . . are you saying YouTube is the same as a torrents site?

Voodoo · 08-15-2007, 03:57 PM

Might as well start a "Good Affiliate / Bad Affiliate" list while we're at it. If "Affiliate A" wasn't allowed to earn money by advertising on torrent sites, he never would. The torrent site wouldn't exist other than to provide lamer sufers with ways to wack off, or download spyware.

EdgeXXX · 08-15-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

personally i would rather have this handled by a non profit neutral association created by the industry through a board and a process in accordance, than through the fsc's interests. they have their hands full with 2257 and the like and i believe that an association that focuses on just piracy may be better suited headed up by content producers and people directly affected by piracy.

I agree 100%. Nothing against the FSC, but I think this should be handled separately.

MeganS · 08-15-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I dont think that's going to happen, A1R3K & Megan are very serious. This shit is getting way out of hand. They are getting bolder and bolder, now charging for sites of content they host. This hurts especially if you want to give quality produce and it has to stop.

Tony's right!!

Airek and I and a lot of other people are very serious about this.

No it won't happen overnight .. sure we will have some bumps in the road .. but we will "put up" .. as i am sure any one else who cares for this industry longevity will.

This is a huge trickle down effect. For example .. we spend about double to triple the budget on an avergae adult dvd .. because we do something unique. Because it is unqiue we do quite well with the people who dig our "style". Well if it is just free free free all day long on torrent sites/content theft sites, etc... we lose money on dvd and site sales obviously.

But ALSO our affiliates who join up to our program to be able to promote our unique content and spend time on design, direct traffic, trading , etc .. loose out on joins they were working hard for. So then we as a studio in the long run spend less on our movie, the content becomes less and les unique and is over a lot less quality .. (which by the time this happens all the little guys are surely out of biz). Then our affiliates don't have anything unique to push/sell .. and their traffic can get it all for free anyway .. so they don't get joins. so we don't send them checks. so their family stops eating .. then their dogs are straving ... then the world ends because porn is over LOL

OK so i got a bit dramatic and carried away at the end .. but i am sure you get my point =)

xoxo,
Megan

RawAlex · 08-15-2007, 04:05 PM

A1R3K, do yourself a big favor on this one: bypass the "industry groups" and go right to the producers. Without saying anything specific, too many of those groups have a vested interest in ignoring the monster under the bed, mostly because their either profit from it or received funding from the people abusing copyright holders.

dav3 · 08-15-2007, 04:10 PM

Props to ewez!

Aneros Josh · 08-15-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess I am lost . . . are you saying YouTube is the same as a torrents site?

I didn't mention tube sites...I was just quoting

baddog · 08-15-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJosh

I didn't mention tube sites...I was just quoting

So, just to make sure I understand . . . you are saying that because YouTube may have some copyrighted materials on their site, and they sell advertising, it is the same as advertising on a torrents site?

Just making sure I understand.

seeric · 08-15-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

A1R3K, do yourself a big favor on this one: bypass the "industry groups" and go right to the producers. Without saying anything specific, too many of those groups have a vested interest in ignoring the monster under the bed, mostly because their either profit from it or received funding from the people abusing copyright holders.

megan and i will be contacting the studios here in porn valley. many of the studios here are interested already. to say the studio and producer attendance will he high at this meeting would be an understatement. i also want to put the power and overall operations control into the hands of those most affected, which are the studios.

sicone · 08-15-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XTube_Kurtis

Now if a user submits copyrighted content we can't police our site for it nor can we moderate so says the law.

What a fucking joke. Did you get this 'law' advice from a cracker jack box.

Fucktard.

Aneros Josh · 08-15-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, just to make sure I understand . . . you are saying that because YouTube may have some copyrighted materials on their site, and they sell advertising, it is the same as advertising on a torrents site?

Just making sure I understand.

copyrighted content is copyrighted content

baddog · 08-15-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJosh

copyrighted content is copyrighted content

So, it is your position that two wrongs make a right? Or that if Google can do it, so can we?

will76 · 08-15-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

Ok,

Seeing that there are so many people that think its cool to take away from the industry instead of contribute it to it, we at Shane's World would like to extend a hand to ANY and ALL companies and individuals that are willing to take the same stand that we are in the fight against content theft and overall well being of an industry that is attacked from all angles by the parasites of the intranets, and from within in the form of undercover "bros".

First things first. List all companies that profit from the theft of content. If you find evidence of financing piracy or blatant content theft, please post it here. We already know of a few that try to skate on the edges of the law to make a few bucks extra at the expense of others. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE PROOF!

meow.

We are in fact going to extend our hand to anyone who wants to take a stand with us and say that we will make every effort to work with any company that wants to help deter the theft of very expensive content.

You don't have to be a content producer. Affiliates are encouraged to help twart the devaluation of adult content as well. After all, in the long run it hurts us all, whether you can see it now or not.

Please help us fight the fight to protect our futures in adult online. I'll get this way more organized here in the short term future, for now this is an idea that I want to see how much support is there for it.

To those that are interested in supporting the cause we will work with you in whatever fashion we can. What we're essentially looking for are committed eyes to police ourself. If we don't do that rest assured that those who feed off of our resources for profit will become that much stronger. For people on the list of industry supporters, we will work together on anything we can from within the circle of people that don't want to be part of the other circle. This industry is segregated on so many other levels, whats another one really going to hurt.

A website will be created to house evidence AND PROOF of those financing piracy.

Thanks for your support. For those of you that think I am beating an animal that feels no pain, stop for a second and think how you would conduct business without content. There are a very very small amount of you that do not rely on content to make a living in some fashion. Really think about it. If tomorrow there was NO content available, would it affect your business?

Sign yourself up by copying and pasting this list as you quote to add yourself
If you are intimidated to post here, you can email or icq us. support at shanesworld or my icq in my sig.

--------------------------------------------

Good Business List

1. Shane's World
2.
3.
4.
5.

-add more

Bad Business List

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.

-add more

--------------------------------------------------------

Grass roots efforts have been started for less important things and made a positive impact.

Thanks

BUMP FOR THE CAUSE even if you think I'm a douche. This is about the industry, not me.

Your bro card is so revoked it is not even funny.

Good to see you guys step up. It takes seeing it happen to you for people to really grasp what is actually going on and how bad they are getting fucked.

RF_Erick · 08-15-2007, 04:43 PM

This will become the best thread of the year! About time shit got fixed.
Thanks Airek for starting the movement!

Aneros Josh · 08-15-2007, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

So, it is your position that two wrongs make a right? Or that if Google can do it, so can we?

Quit trying to tell me what I'm saying...I'm simply stating a fact...don't imply anything

baddog · 08-15-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FleshJosh

Quit trying to tell me what I'm saying...I'm simply stating a fact...don't imply anything

Then why don't you tell us what you are trying to say? I have told you how it is being interpreted.

4Pics · 08-15-2007, 04:50 PM

Shouldn't we also list the hosts who host the sites in question? Cause they profit from it also.

08-15-2007, 01:00 PM	#152
BusterBunny perverted justice decoy Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: unborn still in the womb connected via blackberry Posts: 19,291	board lag got me __________________ my sig caught gonoherpasyphilaids and died

08-15-2007, 01:01 PM	#153
XTube_Lance Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 92	Megan, you are right. Sorry that our controversial website got in the way. This will be the final comment from XTube within this thread. XTube is about amateur porn. We can completely cut off and prevent future DMCA violations, and I will outline that in a thread I am authoring right now. If you are interested, you will find it. __________________ Lance Cassidy, Former Director of Sales & Marketing, XTube.com. C: 905.922.2305, ICQ: 301214977, Email: lance[at]chadster[dot]com Advertise on XTube.com

08-15-2007, 01:27 PM	#156
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	When will the first lawyer step up get a million dollar award for a company against one of these torrent sites? Do you think it will happen, or not? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

08-15-2007, 01:32 PM	#160
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	I nominate PRADult.com for the bad business list. __________________ I like turtles.

08-15-2007, 01:54 PM	#167
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	__________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

08-15-2007, 01:04 PM	#155
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	yup. there is no justification. just like its ethically unacceptable and morally wrong to profit from stolen property, its ethically unacceptable to profit and knowingly support the theft of content through financed piracy. doesn't matter if someone stole your neighbors t.v. and gave it to you to sell for a profit, you're still involved. fact.

08-15-2007, 01:34 PM	#163
teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	Super Bad Ass Awesome Business List 1. Adult Blog Themes 2. 3. 4. 5.

08-15-2007, 02:06 PM	#169
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	meowwwww

08-15-2007, 02:21 PM	#171
ultimatebbwdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 591	It seems that many an honest webmaster has the onus placed on them to get unauthorized material removed from sites that share content..... Maybe listed/suspected/proven.... whatever, shady business sites should have the onus placed on "them" to show they meet the guidelines to get off the list. Hoop jumping to get things done can go both ways.

08-15-2007, 02:35 PM	#173
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Boy this got long.

08-15-2007, 02:39 PM	#174
Helix Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,000	When the list of requirements is defined please let me know. Fuckinhorny does not let users upload files - no DMCA violations possible. We only use sponsor provided teaser clips. We only use 2257 compliant sponsors. You can signup and use our system without any worries of violations. __________________ Free jscott !!! Free OneHungLo !!! Free Baddog !!!

08-15-2007, 02:57 PM	#176
ultimatebbwdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 591	I dont think people went to youtube to see the adverts - they went to upload or view video.....a bunch of that video would have violated copyrights. Take the copyrighted video away and youtube is a bunch of retards talking into a camera about how life sucks or setting a firework off in their pants. Sure it would generate traffic, nowhere near as much though...making advertising spots less attractive - and the sale price of youtube would have been way shittier - just a guess

08-15-2007, 02:59 PM	#178
GAMEFINEST Make STACK$ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: sexy time Posts: 14,439	the pages are growing ... __________________ Compound interest.

08-15-2007, 03:16 PM	#179
NaughtyAce Traffic - Protect Content Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,482	[QUOTE=signupdamnit;12932933]I have to add Naughty America to the good list. They seem top notch and have always been good to their affiliates. Case in point, a few months back where they caught someone using adware and actually returned the sales back to the rightful affiliate refferrers. So we have (from what I see so far): -------------------------------------------- Good Business List 1. Shane's World 2. Webair 3. Naughty America 4. AlleyBucks 5. -add more Thanks for adding us in. We fully support the stopping of illegal sharing and downloading of content. We constantly are at battle with websites looking to rip our content off through these networks. Though hard to police, one site at a time is all you can do for now. I'm open to any suggestions to help curtail this type of business. __________________ Publisher manager http://Leads.TrafficHaus.com [email protected] Looking for Sales Support! - Contact Media Reps Looking for Traffic - Go to TrafficHaus.com Looking for Ad Block Prevention - Go to ReviveAds.com Looking for Copyright protection - Go to DigiRegs.com Looking for Video Marketing Software - Go to Partner.TrafficHaus.com

08-15-2007, 03:57 PM	#185
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	Might as well start a "Good Affiliate / Bad Affiliate" list while we're at it. If "Affiliate A" wasn't allowed to earn money by advertising on torrent sites, he never would. The torrent site wouldn't exist other than to provide lamer sufers with ways to wack off, or download spyware. __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

08-15-2007, 04:05 PM	#188
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	A1R3K, do yourself a big favor on this one: bypass the "industry groups" and go right to the producers. Without saying anything specific, too many of those groups have a vested interest in ignoring the monster under the bed, mostly because their either profit from it or received funding from the people abusing copyright holders.

08-15-2007, 04:10 PM	#189
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08-15-2007, 04:43 PM	#197
RF_Erick Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md Posts: 946	This will become the best thread of the year! About time shit got fixed. Thanks Airek for starting the movement! __________________ Exclusive Reality Feeds - [email protected] - ICQ: 4144516

08-15-2007, 04:50 PM	#200
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	Shouldn't we also list the hosts who host the sites in question? Cause they profit from it also.