Google to webmasters: Reciprocal linking will get you BANNED - GoFuckYourself.com

digifan · 08-12-2007, 11:12 AM

http://esotericlabs.com/search-engin...you-banned.htm

Discuss.

Babaganoosh · 08-12-2007, 11:17 AM

Read the whole page before you freak out.

Pornwolf · 08-12-2007, 11:17 AM

I read about this on Friday. This is really a bad thing for everyone.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-12-2007, 11:23 AM

google is trying to change the way the net works

HAPPYPEEKERS · 08-12-2007, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

google is trying to change the way the net works

Not only google..

Yahoo just shut down some of my groups with thousands of members recently... no email.. nothing.. I have had the groups for years and years... wish I could have just gotten all of my member names and emails before they so rudely canned it without notice :-(

FUCKERS

Kevsh · 08-12-2007, 11:27 AM

The Guidelines the article is referring to is vague, but too many people take everything exactly as written - a 100% literal interpretation which can lead to statements like this thread title.

Quote:

Examples of link schemes can include:

* Link exchange and reciprocal links schemes (”Link to me and I’ll link to you.”)

I think before going off the deep end, note the word MAY ... If taken literally, implies that using recip links may qualify as a no-no.

Adam Lasnik quotes below the article and attempts to clarify a little, but as usual doesn't do a complete job:

Quote:

we are NOT inherently against reciprocal links.

And goes on to say they are constantly trying to clarify their stance on this subject (read: Decide how much is too much to tell webmasters - Too little and they'll continue this practice, too much and we give away some of how our algo works).

Bottom line:
Recip linking should only been done between similarly themed sites as a long-term, mutually beneficial partnership, that should ideally add value to the site visitor (e.g. "Go here for more help on this subject" etc.) and not for the sole purpose of increasing pagerank and other nefarious motives.

So for all of us linkex'ing, Thunder-balling and linking to anybody that asks, this is nothing new - we've been playing with fire and will get burned. For those that link smartly and/or properly (according the Google's guidelines) you have little to worry about, now or in the immediate future.

Clark Miller · 08-12-2007, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

The Guidelines the article is referring to is vague, but too many people take everything exactly as written - a 100% literal interpretation which can lead to statements like this thread title.

I think before going off the deep end, note the word MAY ... If taken literally, implies that using recip links may qualify as a no-no.

Adam Lasnik quotes below the article and attempts to clarify a little, but as usual doesn't do a complete job:

And goes on to say they are constantly trying to clarify their stance on this subject (read: Decide how much is too much to tell webmasters - Too little and they'll continue this practice, too much and we give away some of how our algo works).

Bottom line:
Recip linking should only been done between similarly themed sites as a long-term, mutually beneficial partnership, that should ideally add value to the site visitor (e.g. "Go here for more help on this subject" etc.) and not for the sole purpose of increasing pagerank and other nefarious motives.

So for all of us linkex'ing, Thunder-balling and linking to anybody that asks, this is nothing new - we've been playing with fire and will get burned. For those that link smartly and/or properly (according the Google's guidelines) you have little to worry about, now or in the immediate future.

Do something to stand out! Be unique, make it worth the visitor's time in some way or another...

digifan · 08-12-2007, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

Not only google..

Yahoo just shut down some of my groups with thousands of members recently... no email.. nothing.. I have had the groups for years and years... wish I could have just gotten all of my member names and emails before they so rudely canned it without notice :-(

FUCKERS

Ouch this sucks.

digifan · 08-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Similar themed sites unite!

4Pics · 08-12-2007, 11:34 AM

The way i read it, was if you were swapping links for no real reason except to gain PR then it was a problem.

They aren't going to stop real link exchanges.

DaddyHalbucks · 08-12-2007, 11:44 AM

I thought Google did this years ago.

digifan · 08-12-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

The way i read it, was if you were swapping links for no real reason except to gain PR then it was a problem.

They aren't going to stop real link exchanges.

I think it's worse for bloggers than tgpers....

Cardinal_Sin · 08-12-2007, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Quote:
Examples of link schemes can include:

* Link exchange and reciprocal links schemes (?Link to me and I?ll link to you.?)

"schemes" could be the key word - Not simple links between webmasters with similarly based sites building traffic - More a case of those sites selling X amount of links to boosts your google ranking - ?

Klen · 08-12-2007, 12:11 PM

Another bullshit from google as usual.WHy bother,here are yahoo and msn.

Pornwolf · 08-12-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

The way i read it, was if you were swapping links for no real reason except to gain PR then it was a problem.

Well, the problem is that 90% of the swapped links on sites.

Lots of BS link swapping out there. Especially in porn.

seeric · 08-12-2007, 12:17 PM

to me that means nothing more than the existing guidelines already did. the guy from google even comes on there and says you can do it and re-references the things that you aren't supposed to do. what i got from reading the entire page is relevant sites are still ok. reading into it, to me that means if you have tow sites both with relevant content and not just some pages created for links, then its still ok. they said they are going to revisit it and come up with something amicable.

digifan · 08-12-2007, 05:31 PM

Good post A1R3k!

geeknik · 08-12-2007, 05:36 PM

Oh my god, if it's on the Internet, it must be true!

Young · 08-12-2007, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeknik

Oh my god, if it's on the Internet, it must be true!

oh my god. a sigwhore with a worthless response!

reciprocal links should be relevant. a site about golf should not have a link to a site about huge tits.

08-12-2007, 11:12 AM	#1
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	Google to webmasters: Reciprocal linking will get you BANNED http://esotericlabs.com/search-engin...you-banned.htm Discuss. __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks

08-12-2007, 11:17 AM	#2
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08-12-2007, 11:32 AM	#9
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08-12-2007, 11:34 AM	#10
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	The way i read it, was if you were swapping links for no real reason except to gain PR then it was a problem. They aren't going to stop real link exchanges.

08-12-2007, 11:44 AM	#11
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	I thought Google did this years ago. __________________ Boner Money

08-12-2007, 12:11 PM	#14
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Another bullshit from google as usual.WHy bother,here are yahoo and msn.

08-12-2007, 12:17 PM	#16
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	to me that means nothing more than the existing guidelines already did. the guy from google even comes on there and says you can do it and re-references the things that you aren't supposed to do. what i got from reading the entire page is relevant sites are still ok. reading into it, to me that means if you have tow sites both with relevant content and not just some pages created for links, then its still ok. they said they are going to revisit it and come up with something amicable.

08-12-2007, 05:31 PM	#17
digifan The Profiler Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ICQ 76281726 and I'm female Posts: 14,618	Good post A1R3k! __________________ [email protected] Webair Rocks

08-12-2007, 05:36 PM	#18
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