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You hate Muslims because they attacked you in 2001? YOU HAVE BEEN ATTACKING THEM FOR 50 FUCKING YEARS!!! |
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And on the same note, why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist because of what a few people did? Would that not be like equating the US military, Republican party and everyone in the state of Kansas to being a terrorist because Timothy McVeigh was? |
I enjoyed fighting for the very freedoms expressed in this thread. All idiots should be able to speak freely about their opinions.
Oh wait, you're Canadian... well, we fight for you too since you guys can't fight for yourselves. God Bless America http://isaacschrodinger.typepad.com/...ag_body_pa.jpg |
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There was no book on the shelf that said if 3000 US citizens are killed in a day by X turn to page 1 and follow the instructions. We were caught off guard, period. We need to be vigilant to ensure or at the very least mitigate the chance of a 9/11 happening again. BTW - GFY does not give away XBox's anymore for the most posts in a thread so you will get nothing from this brilliant attempt at showing your lack of knowledge. |
We don't need to fight... we don't trample over other countries like we own the world.
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Also Sam the last time I checked a lot of Canadians were dieing in the middle east as well. What steps have you taken to stand against this. How many letters have you written to your government? How many rallies have you gone to? What have you done to try and change the stance of your own country? Besides posting on GFY?
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Have we really been attacking Muslims for fifty years? So I guess our support of Afghanistan in the 1980s when they were invaded by Russia doesn't count for anything. (Ironically this led to the rise of BinLaden there.) And the fact that we supported Iraq in during it's war with Iran also didn't count. So what your telling me is no matter what side of the arguement we take, the US is attacking Muslims? I've never been told that "Muslims are my enemy". In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. We aren't fightin "Mulsims" in general, but rather a small handful of extremeists. Huge difference there. |
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You also said.... "why are you equating everyone in the middle east to a terrorist". Jesus fucking Christ; Read what I said. I'm married to someone who has half of her family living in the Middle East. |
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Yeah, one day they simply thought to themselves 'hey who can we pick to try out our new steal a plane and fly it into a building training program?' |
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Rochard: and what does your wife think about your solution of invading the entire middle east?
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Yep...no pattern here...
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20094235/site/newsweek/ Names and nationalities of known suicide bombers in Iraq 1 Degauque, Muriel (female suicide bomber) Belgium 2 Goris, Issam (foiled bomber killed by U.S. forces) Belgium 3 al-Banghali, Abu Dujanah Bengal 4 al-Dhaleai, Wael (Wael Abdul Rahman) Britain 5 al-Masri, Abu Omar Egypt 6 al-Masri, Mahmoud Egypt 7 al-Muhajir, Abu Abdullah Egypt 8 Badjoudj, Abdelhalim France 9 Bazis, Idris France 10 al-Anizi, Ahmed (Abu Ma`az) Iraq 11 al-Ansari, Abu Basir Iraq 12 al-Ansari, Abu Hafs Iraq 13 al-Ansari, Abu Khattab Iraq 14 al-Ansari, Abu Muhammad Iraq 15 al-Ansari, Abu Musab Iraq 16 al-Ansari, Abu Uthman Iraq 17 al-Dulaymi, Widad Jamil Jasim (female suicide bomber) Iraq 18 al-Dulaymi, Abu al-Hur Iraq 19 al-Iraqi, Abu Ayoub Iraq 20 al-Iraqi, Yassin Jarrad Iraq 21 al-Jumayli, Abu Amar Iraq 22 al-Karkuki, Abdullah Iraq 23 al-Kurdi, Abdul Wahhab Iraq 24 al-Kurdi, Barwa Iraq 25 al-Najdi, Abu Umar Iraq 26 al-Shamari, Nusha Mujalli Munayfir (female suicide bomber) Iraq 27 Marwan Abu Ubeida Iraq 28 Nassim, Fahdal Italy 29 al-Masri, Abu Farid Italy 30 Morchidi, Kamal Italy 31 Ben Amor, Mohammed Italy 32 Khalifa, Mohammed Italy 33 Rihani, Lotfi (Abdel Rahman) Italy 34 Saadi, Fadhal Italy 35 Waddani, Habib (Said) Italy 36 al-Ashqari, Ans Jamal (Abu al-Bara al-Urduni) Jordan 37 al-Banna, Raed Mansoor (Abu Radwan al-Urduni) Jordan 38 al-Urduni, Abu Sulaiman Jordan 39 Jaradad, Amer Qasim Jordan 40 al-Anizi, Rawaf Kuwait 41 al-Ajami, Khaled (Abu Al-Zubayr al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 42 al-Hajari, Mansoor (Abu-Wadha al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 43 al-Shamari, Abd-al-Aziz (Abu-Ahmad al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 44 al-Subay'i, Nayif Salih (Abu-Salih al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 45 al-Utaybi, Abdel Rahman Bin-Shuja (Abu-Awf al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 46 Said al-Hajari (Abu-Hamza al-Kuwaiti) Kuwait 47 Khalifa, Muhammad Lebanon 48 al-Libi, Abu Abdullal Libya 49 al-Libi, Abu Bara Libya 50 al-Zayidi, Khaled Libya 51 al-Maghribi, Abu Osama Morocco 52 al-Bahili, Naser Bin Fahd (Abu Fahd) Saudi Arabia 53 al-Baqmi, Abu Zayad Saudi Arabia 54 al-Dousari, Abu Abdullah (brother of Abu Harith) Saudi Arabia 55 al-Dousari, Abu Harith Saudi Arabia 56 al-Fahmi, Suluh Salih Saudi Arabia 57 al-Falaj, Adel Bin Ali Saudi Arabia 58 al-Ghamidi, Ahmed Said Ahmed Saudi Arabia 59 al-Ghuninam, Sami Bin Sulieman Saudi Arabia 60 al-Halil, Mohammed Saudi Arabia 61 al-Harbi, Faris Abdullah Saudi Arabia 62 al-Hijazi, Abi Amama Saudi Arabia 63 al-Madani, Abu Zyad Saudi Arabia 64 al-Makki, Abu Hassan Saudi Arabia 65 al-Muhajir, Abu Azzam Saudi Arabia 66 al-Mutayri, Abu al-Walid Saudi Arabia 67 al-Mutayri, Haydarah Saudi Arabia 68 al-Mutayri, Majid Bin Sahnt Saudi Arabia 69 al-Najdi, Abu Abdel Malik Saudi Arabia 70 al-Najdi, Abu Hafs Saudi Arabia 71 al-Najdi, Abu Naim Saudi Arabia 72 al-Najdi, Abu Nur Saudi Arabia 73 al-Najdi, Abu Ubayda (Abdullah) Saudi Arabia 74 al-Qahtani, Abu Ans al-Tahami Saudi Arabia 75 al-Qarni, Abdullah al-Buhayri Saudi Arabia 76 al-Qurayshi, Abdul Rahman Saad (Abu Saad al-Makki) Saudi Arabia 77 al-Qasimi, Abu Qutaybah Saudi Arabia 78 al-Rahimi, Ahmed (or Ahmed al-Fawal Abu Hassan) Saudi Arabia 79 al-Rashid, Abdel Aziz Hamd Saudi Arabia 80 al-Rashid, Yazid Bin Qayid (Abu Juhayman) Saudi Arabia 81 al-Sa`ayri, Abu Mashari Saudi Arabia 82 al-Sarmini, Muhammad Sha`aban Abu Abdullah Saudi Arabia 83 al-Shamali, Abu-Muawiyah Saudi Arabia 84 al-Shamari, Abu Musab Saudi Arabia 85 al-Shamari, Fahd Nayef al-Shulaqi (Abu Amshi al-Shamari) Saudi Arabia 86 al-Shamari, Khaled Bin Khalaf al-Sulayti (Abu Mutib) Saudi Arabia 87 al-Shamari, Majid Salamah al-Haqs Saudi Arabia 88 al-Shamari, Muhammad Bin Rahayman al-Tawmi (Abu Salih) Saudi Arabia 89 al-Shamari, Nawaf bin Mishl Al Khalil Saudi Arabia 90 al-Shamari, Walid al-Asmar Saudi Arabia 91 al-Shayi`a, Ahmed Bin Abdullah Bin Abdel Rahman Saudi Arabia 92 al-Shukri, Salih (Abu Ibrahim al-Makki) Saudi Arabia 93 al-Tamimi, Abdelaziz Bin Saud Bin Mahmoud al-Gharbi al-Mufidi Saudi Arabia 94 al-Usaymi, Nawaf Saudi Arabia 95 al-Usaymi, Safr bin Matr Saudi Arabia 96 al-Utaybi, Azzam Turki al-Muraybadh Saudi Arabia 97 al-Utaybi, Muqrin Majid Shayb Saudi Arabia 98 al-Utaybi, Nashi Dhayb Saudi Arabia 99 al-Zahrani, Fawaz Hussein Saudi Arabia 100 Sayf al-Umma al-Mankuba (not the actual name, real name unknown) Saudi Arabia 101 al-Hijazi, Abu Hurayrah Saudi Arabia 102 al-Janoubi, Abu Dajana Saudi Arabia 103 al-Janoubi, Abu Naser Saudi Arabia 104 al-Tshady, Abu Nasser Saudi Arabia 105 Belgacem, Bellil Spain 106 Afalah, Mohammed Spain 107 Al-Sudani, Hasan Abdel Rahman Sudan 108 al-Abdo, Uruha (Abu Abdel Karim) Syria 109 al-Saraqibi, Warid al-Qudur Syria 110 al-Shami, Abu al-Walid Syria 111 al-Shami, Abu Bara Syria 112 al-Suri, Abu Umayr Syria 113 al-Suri, Abu Khaled or Abu Khaled al-Falastini Syria 114 al-Suri, Abu Muhammad Syria 115 al-Suri, Abu Ubayda Syria 116 al-Tunisi, Abu Samir Tunisia 117 al-Tunisi, Abu Tariq Tunisia 118 al-Tunisi, Ziyad Tunisia 119 al-Turki, Abu Abdullah (Azzad Akanji) Turkey 120 Umar, Abu Muhammad Turkey 121 Yigit, Ebubekir Turkey 122 Adnan, Muhammad Zayd Muhammad (Abu Umayer al-Shami) Unknown 123 al-Allawi, Abdullah Unknown 124 al-Badawi, Abu Umar Unknown 125 al-Jidawi, Abu al-Abbas Unknown 126 al-Maqdisi, Abu Zayd Unknown 127 al-Muhajir, Abu Rihana Unknown 128 al-Muhajir, Abu Thabit Unknown 129 al-Muhajir, Abu Zubayr Unknown 130 al-Nufayi, Abu al-Zubayr Unknown 131 al-Qarnamri, Hamoud `Ayad Unknown 132 al-Rumi, Fahd (Abu `Amshi) Unknown 133 al-Ruwayli, Farhan Mayes Unknown 134 al-Ruwayli, Jamil Battah Unknown 135 al-Shamari, Abdullah al-Zubai Unknown 136 al-Shamari, Abu Abd Unknown 137 al-Yemeni, Abu Jafar Yemen 138 al-Yemeni, Abu Bilal Yemen 139 al-Yemeni, al-Jarrah Yemen |
wow.. this lame shit is still going.
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USA would have NEVER been attacked IF you didn?t support Israel. Why would they attack you? Because they hate freedom like Bush tells you? :) Wonder why they haven?t attacked Sweden or Norway or Japan or New Zeeland or Greece or whatever. They attacked you because you have different religion?? Again, why didn?t they attack any of the countries I counted above? |
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1947-48: U.S. backs Palestine partition plan. Israel established. U.S. declines to press Israel to allow expelled Palestinians to return. Oh really? So suddenly the US decided to create Israel and thus it was so? Not so much. Study your fucking history already. The first wave of Jewish immigration to Israel started in 1891, increased through out the years, and then exploded in the 1940s for the most obvious of reasons. And because none of you understand history, you might be surpised to learn that this entire region was controled by whom prior to 1946? Not the US.... Have you ever heard of the "British Mandate of Palestine"? Here's a nice litlle quote.... The award of the mandates was delayed as a result of the United States' suspicions regarding Britain's colonial ambitions and similar reservations held by Italy about France's intentions. France in turn refused to reach a settlement over Palestine until its own mandate in Syria became final. According to Louis,Together with the American protests against the issuance of mandates these triangular quarrels between the Italians, French, and British explain why the A mandates did not come into force until nearly four years after the signing of the Peace Treaty.... (Quote Link) We can debate this until we are blue in the face. All of this happened long before any of us were born. All of this seems to be because of a damn plot of land. If we could take Israel and move to - say - Cananda.... Would that really change anything? Best case their respective govenments would just fight amoung each other.... |
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Israel wasn't created by the US alone. This was pretty much the result of what happened to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis during WWII. (Note I said Nazis and not Germans, before you start bashing me for hating the Germans.) From what I understand, the largest concentration of Jews in the world at that time was in that little area of the middle east. But you say "that land didn't belong to the Jews"? No, before then it belonged to the British. And before the British it belong to the Turks. To answer your question about why they haven't attacked any other country..... Seems to me they attacked England also. |
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What fucking comic book did you pull that bullshit out of? They aren't fighting and suicide bombing because they feel oppressed, the are doing it because some religious extremist freak told them that God wants them to kill all infidels and will reward them in heaven if they do. Does the term "jihad" ring any bells? Typical ignorant sheep, you're not even clear on the facts, you just "hate the Americans" because you think it's the "cool" thing to do... |
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Yes, UK is responsible for creating Israel and Nazis definitely played their part in it. But USA helped creating Israel too. Actually, USA went in to the WWI after rich Jewish Americans made UK promise to give Palestine to Jews. But that is not important. USA is still supporting Israel, not only politically but actually arming Israel with modern weapons. Same weapons that are used to kill Palestinians. But I really don?t expect you to agree with me. Let me ask you a question? Why do YOU think they attacked USA?? |
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Where in that quote does it say that the US created Israel ( just quote ..). You should read it again, and pay attention to the second part of the sentence. I just want to point out that having a discussion with you is pointless and meaningless, because you " re-invent " what people said, or you plain don't understand. Those years, when Israel was created, were troubled after war years; and the horrific crimes that were commited against jews simply because they were jews doesn't justify committing more crimes again there against a civil population ... |
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So let me ask you same question I asked Rockhard. Why aren't they attacking any other country if they hate infidels so much??? Why not attack Vatican or at least Italy? Why not attack Russia? Why not attack China? They resort to suicide bombing BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THEM TO FIGHT BACK! Do you even know ?suicide attacks? are as old as war itself? Ever heard of Japanese kamikaze fighters? Just to educate you, the term ?Jihad? means struggle. You can have ?Jihad? on everything, from fighting against poverty or diseases to fighting against oppression. It is a synonym for ?fight against infidels? as you idiots would think :) |
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My best guess is that because the US supports Israel. If I recall correctly, the US sends more to Israel than all other countries combined on a yearly basis. (Don't quote me on this statistic, but if someone would research it that would be great!). Perhaps if we withdrew all financial aid for Israel.... Nah. That wouldn't change a damn thing at this point. All of this points back to a single plot of land. Unless they plan on killing every Jew in Israel, nothing is gonna change. |
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You don't think they attack other countries?! Here, let me give you A FEW quick and recent examples: August 31, 2005: A blast near a subway station entrance in northern Moscow, caused by a suicide bomber, kills ten people and injures 33. September 1 – 3, 2005: Beslan school hostage crisis in North Ossetia, Russia, results in 344 dead, mostly children. July 7, 2005: London bombings – Bombs explode on one double-decker bus and three London Underground trains, killing 56 people and injuring over 700, occurring on the first day of the 31st G8 Conference. The attacks are the first suicide bombings in Western Europe. July 21, 2005: Attempted London bombings - Small explosions in three London Underground stations and one double-decker bus. This was pronounced as a "major incident" rather than an attack, and only minor injuries were reported. These four bombs were designed to cause as much damage as the 7 July 2005 London bombings, but the explosives had deteriorated and failed to detonate. October 1, 2005: A series of explosions occurs in resort areas of Jimabaran Beach and Kuta in Bali, Indonesia. October 29, 2005: In Poso, Central Sulawesi (Indonesia), four Christian schoolgirls aged 15 to 17 years on their way home from school were assaulted by six masked Muslim men who beheaded three of them, Theresia Morangke, Alfita Poliwo, and Yarni Sambue, with machetes and placed their severed heads in front of a church and a police station. The fourth girl, Noviana Malewa, survived but suffered serious machete wounds. The terrorists belong to the group Tanah Runtuh whose leader Hasanuddin confessed at his trial that the well-planned assault was inspired and financed by Guru Sanusi, a former Muslim rebel (Moro Islamic Liberation Front) from Mindanao. July 31, 2006: Two suitcase bombs are discovered in trains near the German towns of Dortmund and Koblenz, undetonated due to an assembly error. Video footage from Cologne train station, where the bombs were put on the trains, led to the arrest of two Lebanese students in Germany, ******* al-Hajdib and Jihad Hamad, and subsequently of three suspected co-conspirators in Lebanon.[144] On 1 September 2006, Jörg Ziercke, head of the Bundeskriminalamt (Federal Police), reports that the suspects saw the Muhammad cartoons as an "assault by the West on Islam" and the "initial spark" for the attack, originally planned to coincide with the 2006 Football World Cup in Germany. January-February 2007: United Kingdom letter bombs June 29-June 30, 2007: Glasgow International Airport attack, 2007 London car bombs, 2007 UK terrorist incidents. Car bomb plot suspected Al-Qaeda. At Glasgow Airport car rams into main terminal causing minor injuries to five and setting off blaze. Explosive device caught fire instead of detonating. In London's West End attempt to set off two car bombs by suspected cell phone triggers fail. One car is towed before device is discovered in underground car park. Police link two incidents. Police find suicide notes on two suspects in London incident. Eight men arrested. One Glasgow suspect critically burned. One of the five men could be an associate of Dhiren Bharot a high level Al-Qaeda operative. Authorities say London bombs could have caused "significant loss of life". The two incidents have been linked, by police, to the same two people. July 19, 2007: Taliban kidnap 23 South Koreans killing two execution-style and dumping their bloodied bodies by the roadside. The surviving hostages are said to be in bad health. Negotiations are underway as of August 1 involving a hostage for Taliban prisoner swap. Quote:
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Here it is again: "1947-48: U.S. backs Palestine partition plan. Israel established. U.S. declines to press Israel to allow expelled Palestinians to return." Let's break it down. 1) "US back Palenstine Partition Plan": This plan created Israel, and your implying the US approved it and thus Israel was created. What this line fails to mention is that the US fought this plan for over a decade. 2) "Israel established": It doesn't say "England created Israel, but in the context of the above quote it seems that Israel was created only because the US approved of someone else's plan. 3) "US declines to press Israel to allow expelled Palestinians to return": This sounds like the US not only approved of the plan after decades of fighting against it, but then approved not allowing Palenstinians into that area. This is not the case. The US didn't really want to agree to this plan, but only did so after protesting this entire idea for many years. I didn't pull anything out of my ass. You quoted a statement saying "US, US, US, Israel created, US, US, US". You uneducated arm chair warriors all say "It's the US's fault". Yet not one of you understand the politics of at the close of WWII, what took place in the 1930s in this area, Or how this area was tradiationally Jewish since the 1890s. |
Or.... Maybe the entire middle east is still pissed about when Israel lashed out and kicked everyone's asses in the late 1960s......
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Following the Soviet Union's withdrawal from Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden returned to Saudi Arabia. The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990 had put the country of Saudi Arabia and its ruling House of Saud at risk as Saudi's most valuable oil fields (Hama) were within easy striking distance of Iraqi forces in Kuwait, and Saddam's call to pan-Arab/Islamism could potentially rally internal dissent. In the face of a seemingly massive Iraqi military presence, Saudi Arabia's own forces were well armed but far outnumbered. Bin Laden offered the services of his mujahedeen to King Fahd to protect Saudi Arabia from the Iraqi army. The Saudi monarch refused bin Laden's offer, opting instead to request and allow U.S. and allied forces to deploy on Saudi territory. The deployment angered Bin Laden, as he believed the presence of foreign troops in the "land of the two mosques" (Mecca and Medina) profaned sacred soil. After speaking publicly against the Saudi government for harboring American troops, he was quickly forced into exile to Sudan and on April 9, 1994 his Saudi citizenship was revoked. His family publicly disowned him. There is controversy over whether and to what extent he continued to garner support from members of his family and/or the Saudi government. Shortly afterwards, partially because of the traditional Sunni-Shi'a rivalries, the movement that came to be known as al-Qaeda was formed... Want to guess who attacked the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001? |
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I quoted one sentence, asking you to show me where it said the US created Israel. Not only can you not do such a quote, but you are not even able to see who post what. Pathetic false patriotic blindness.... :2 cents: |
Rochards touched my black cock in mexico...
See what yager does to you... SonofSam has a big fuckin nose.... swinging that shit about... watch that honker dude |
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Oh geee youve changed your tune now. :1orglaugh What happened to invading the entire middle east including saudi arabia? |
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Supporting the wrong side of this argument makes you look like an idiot george. In case you didn't notice (maybe because your head is up your ass?) sonofshmuck has run rampant all over the board this weekend posting his usual troll BS at everyone he can find to cry at. When he has nothing to come at you with he'll instead post 15 yr old pics of you over and over, same old shit he did last year, and the year before that. He does this on the weekend because during the week he is too busy attending school to get his GED and working his evening shift at the McDrivethru. Then he comes here and cocks off at a US war vet and a respected member of this business in his spare time whilst having himself admitted that he has no adult biz-related interests whatsoever and has obviously shown that he has no clue about worldly issues other than calling anyone whoo disagrees with his sweeping judgements as "cocksmoker" and "fag" :1orglaugh And you're sitting there wondering who is crying for attention? Get a clue. For some odd reason I thought you were smarter than this george. Let's see what your reply to me brings... |
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But at this point I don't see many options. If the US faces an attack on the scale of 9/11 again... What are we going to do? Invade Iran? I'm sure the plans are already drawn up. I mean, Iran's President there is already threatening the entire Jewish race with destruction. Doesn't this sound familar? Been here, done that, tried appeasement, and still got sucked in. The root of the problem seems to be Saudi Arabia. This is were the extremists came from, this their primary recruiting ground, and this is where the bulk of their funding (seems) to come from. What we need is a President who will go th Saudi Arabia and say "If this happens again and people from your country are involved, we are invading in order to prevent future attacks". I understand that governments usually don't operate like this, and I understand that the government of Saudi Abrabia might not have any connection to any of this. But they are the only ones who can prevent this from happening, and they don't seem to be stopping it. |
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How is it even possible that none of you have had a reaction to this horrifying image posted in this thread?
How many times have you vomited? Nightmares? Shouldn't he be locked up or something for this sort of insanity? http://web.archive.org/web/200303051.../billypvt2.JPG |
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