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Old 08-09-2007, 02:37 PM   #1
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If you ride a MOTORCYCLE, Please READ This........RIP

Last night a very close friend of mine was killed while riding his motorcycle home from work. A car pulled out in front of him and he died at the scene. He was 22 years old. We just went on a trip to Boston 2 weeks ago to visit his brother and I was supposed to be golfing with him tomorrow. His family is devistated and his brother is still in shock.

REMEMBER - YOU ARE ALMOST INVISIBLE WHEN RIDING A MOTORCYCLE -

RIP ANDREW
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:40 PM   #2
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Sorry about your friend, but do you think you are telling us something we don't already know?

The fact is, we are not invisible, it is the cage drivers that just don't pay attention.
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:47 PM   #3
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Sorry about your friend, but do you think you are telling us something we don't already know?

The fact is, we are not invisible, it is the cage drivers that just don't pay attention.
jeez
he was just saying to fellow bikers to be careful; im sure we all know that motorcycles are dangerous ;)
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:52 PM   #5
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one thing i can tell you is that your boy passed happy...i always said if i died on my bike..i died happy. all of us that ride, do it for the passion..its a feeling that cant be described, even though we hurt our loved ones when we go..its still something we will never stop doing it..some of us make it, and others dont. sorry for your loss homie!
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:56 PM   #6
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one thing i can tell you is that your boy passed happy...i always said if i died on my bike..i died happy. all of us that ride, do it for the passion..its a feeling that cant be described, even though we hurt our loved ones when we go..its still something we will never stop doing it..some of us make it, and others dont. sorry for your loss homie!
I completely understand - he had the passion even though his parents begged him to give it up.
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Sorry for your friend .that's sad car drivers don't take seriously the riders
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Old 08-09-2007, 02:59 PM   #9
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Sorry about your friend, but do you think you are telling us something we don't already know?

The fact is, we are not invisible, it is the cage drivers that just don't pay attention.
I'll bet you $50 the guy wasn't wearing any safety gear.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:00 PM   #11
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Sorry about your friend, but do you think you are telling us something we don't already know?

The fact is, we are not invisible, it is the cage drivers that just don't pay attention.
Sorry, but that is as narrow minded as a car driver saying that bikers don't pay attention.

Bikers shouldn't weave in and out of traffic the way they do... or ride RIGHT up to the back side of a car hoping to grab a few split seconds to over take so much...

And drivers should always keep their eyes open.

As a car driver I'm VERY aware of bikers. My friend was a biker and died ... on the road. Because his bike slipped. Not because of another car.

I think both should be careful ...

instead of either 'side' blaming the other.
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I'm sorry to hear about your loss. Every time i ride i wonder if it will be my last but i still go . there's just something about it.
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I completely understand - he had the passion even though his parents begged him to give it up.
my parents asked me to give it up the first time i wrecked on a stand up wheelie..my girl cries everytime i go for a ride, he cousin past away less than a year ago and he was all she had...not sure if you met my boy cattivo at internext..he was wearing a body brace from his bike accident 2 months ago..his back and foot are broken...i guess we do it for the adrenaline rush...i deeply feel for your boys family
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I'll bet you $50 the guy wasn't wearing any safety gear.
I could make all kinds of assumptions, but that is all they would be.

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Sorry, but that is as narrow minded as a car driver saying that bikers don't pay attention.
Most car vs bike wrecks are due to the "I didn't see him" defense. So, STFU.
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Sorry to hear of your loss, I have lost friends due to motorcycle accidents as well. More reason for me never to buy one.
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Last night a very close friend of mine was killed while riding his motorcycle home from work. A car pulled out in front of him and he died at the scene. He was 22 years old. We just went on a trip to Boston 2 weeks ago to visit his brother and I was supposed to be golfing with him tomorrow. His family is devistated and his brother is still in shock.

REMEMBER - YOU ARE ALMOST INVISIBLE WHEN RIDING A MOTORCYCLE -

RIP ANDREW
Sorry to hear that, but you are 100% right, you need to ride like you are invisible, do not trust on eye to eye contact as most car drivers are looking right thur you.
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Sorry to hear of your loss, I have lost friends due to motorcycle accidents as well. More reason for me never to buy one.
They are just not worth riding every day. I told him when he got it "if you crash you either die or roll a wheelchair for the rest of your life."
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They are just not worth riding every day. I told him when he got it "if you crash you either die or roll a wheelchair for the rest of your life."
Wrong on both counts. I have crashed and I am alive and not in a wheelchair
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sorry to hear that. I have had two close friends die in the past couple of years on a motorcycle. One had been riding for years and the other had one week on it. I rode for years and wont ride again. Just wouldnt be right or smart. To many bad drivers on the road.
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Wrong on both counts. I have crashed and I am alive and not in a wheelchair
tipping over your bike while sitting on it does not count as a crash. Hitting a car square in the side while traveling 50 mph is a crash.
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tipping over your bike while sitting on it does not count as a crash. Hitting a car square in the side while traveling 50 mph is a crash.
How about at 60? You don't know shit.
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The main reason I never ride on the streets..dirt biking only..my condolences
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How about at 60? You don't know shit.
thanks for your input - it's helping me to cope by increasing my anger. I'll let his mother know what a pussy he was for dying and not walking away.

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Wrong on both counts. I have crashed and I am alive and not in a wheelchair
I wrecked on the interstate going 70. It hurt.
But I'm ok and still ride all the time.


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I have been riding for about 20 years. Sorry about your loss. Very sad news. We hear it over and over, and 99% of the time, its not the riders but someone that doesn't see us. But we choose to ride because we enjoy it. It is very Dangerous.

Very sorry about your loss, my condolences to you and the family.
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thanks for your input - it's helping me to cope by increasing my anger. I'll let his mother know what a pussy he was for dying and not walking away.
Why don't you be honest with her and tell her he died doing what he liked? My family already knows this if I die that way.
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Sorry to hear about your friend. Im buying a new bike in the spring. Havent had one since 97 or so. I miss it, but I wont be as careless as I used to be back when I was younger now that I have a family of 5 to think about.
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May he ride hard and free forever

sorry for your loss, It hurts

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Iv been riding since i was 13, im now 40, and once you get the bug it stays forever, Its a hard to stop, Iv been in back patch clubs, a courier, touring, and been to loads of real good club bashes, and i love every minute of riding,and the bike scene, I only got my car licence a year ago so it was the only way i could get around, but since i have been driving a car, it is very true that you are not as aware of what is going on around you compared to when you are on a bike, I think this is because you know you are more vunrable when you are on a bike, Then again i have seen some of my mates riding like they are out to kill themselves, (I too have done very stupid things on bikes,so in my eyes both car drivers and bike riders do stupid things and cause accidents, There are many more hazards on the road when you are riding a bike (dead or wet leaves, drain covers on bends,diesel spills and on a nice cold night even white lines become slippery, and unfortuantly a lot of car drivers who have never ridding a bike on the roads dont realise this...so just look out for that bike comming up behind you and give them space

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Doesn't matter what you drive, every time you hit the road you can go splat. Bike vs car or car vs truck or truck vs semi. There is pretty much always something that can mash you if you aren't paying attention or just have seriously bad luck.
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Most car vs bike wrecks are due to the "I didn't see him" defense. So, STFU.
Ok, and I bet 50% of those are bikers riding like fucking cocks. Fact is Baddog, just because you ride doesn't mean every fucking biker that dies on the bike is in the right. You just pulled a 'statistic' out of your ass.

I'm sure you ride safely ... but a LOT of bikers do NOT.

Same way a lot of car drivers do NOT.

Read my entire post and you'll see that I split the blame both ways. Unlike you. Don't be so one sided.
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This worries me specially when I'm riding a bike. No matter how careful you are things like these just happen... Sorry to hear about friend...
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Doesn't matter what you drive, every time you hit the road you can go splat. Bike vs car or car vs truck or truck vs semi. There is pretty much always something that can mash you if you aren't paying attention or just have seriously bad luck.

yep its the foodchain of automobiles

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so just look out for that bike comming up behind you and give them space
Yes, watch out for them. But in the UK I think you'll find that if you hit someone from behind, you're to blame. Because you should have taken all of these issues into account and distanced yourself accordingly. If you're driving or riding too close, you'lll smash into someone if they brake and you don't manage to stop... wet roads, slippery leaves, or whatever. You should have been paying attention.

I hit someone from behind in my car a couple of years ago ... my brakes weren't up to the task. I was prosecuted and given a massive fine and points on my licence, because they said I should have taken this into account. The woman ahead was driving a brand new 5 series BMW with perfect brakes. My old car wasn't up to that standard and I guess I didn't take this into account.

If a biker is riding up my ass on the road and they smash into me because I have to brake hard for any reason, they can fucking blame no one but themselves. Goes for car drivers too.
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If a biker is riding up my ass on the road and they smash into me because I have to brake hard for any reason, they can fucking blame no one but themselves. Goes for car drivers too.
Ok Did not mean it in that way , I was coming from Bognor to southampton and on the a27 a van pulled over into my lane because he wanted to overtake the car in front of him, He forced me on the grass verge and his excuse was he dident see me, so this tells me that a lot of drivers when changing lanes just dont do a life saver(look over there shoulder to see what behind them) before changing lanes, There are a lot of blind spots that you cannot see behind you, when driving a car,on a bike with me it is a normal thing to do a life saver even when taking a right or left hand turn, but when im driving the car I really dont do it as much, this is what i meant by car drivers giving bikes space behind them and make sure they know whats behind them
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Ok Did not mean it in that way , I was coming from Bognor to southampton and on the a27 a van pulled over into my lane because he wanted to overtake the car in front of him, He forced me on the grass verge and his excuse was he dident see me, so this tells me that a lot of drivers when changing lanes just dont do a life saver(look over there shoulder to see what behind them) before changing lanes, There are a lot of blind spots that you cannot see behind you, when driving a car,on a bike with me it is a normal thing to do a life saver even when taking a right or left hand turn, but when im driving the car I really dont do it as much, this is what i meant by car drivers giving bikes space behind them and make sure they know whats behind them
Yes... THAT makes sense and I totally agree with you ... not seeing someone is NO excuse... I look over my shoulder every single time I change lanes or go into a junction ... cyclists or motorists could be there ... mirrors don't show it all ...
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Old 08-09-2007, 06:21 PM   #45
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A buddy of mine turned a corner with his kickstand a little bit down, it dug into the pavement and flipped the bike, threw him into a phone pole and killed him instantly.

Sorry for your loss.
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Old 08-09-2007, 07:29 PM   #46
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Sorry for your lost.

All drivers should pay more attention to the road.

As a cyclist, I feel I am wishing a death wish instead of enjoying my sport every time I interact with traffic.

As a driver; bikers and cyclists, and even scooters, have my respect but not when they don't obey basic traffic rules.

Once again, sorry for your lost.
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leave it to baddog to get out his genius "i've been riding bikes since the cavemen created the wheel, and you were just nut stains in your mommies hair!" knowledge and start to trash a completely legitimate thread...

sorry to hear about your friend, me and my buddies in the hells angels* (name drop yo!) will go thrash a bar in his name!



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I'm very sorry to hear that.
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Sorry about your friend, but do you think you are telling us something we don't already know?

The fact is, we are not invisible, it is the cage drivers that just don't pay attention.

it always helps to be reminded. We all know alot of things , but we dont always follow what we know , sometimes we get busy with life and forget the things that should be so simple to remember. I am certainly guilty of it on occasion.

A friend of mine's daughter recently fell off a cliff in a freak accident ( part of the bluff just gave way )
, it has certainly reminded me to be more carefull with my kids near cliffs. not that i didnt know that but, like i say it always helps to be reminded.
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very sorry for the loss of your friend.

life is finite, and riding a motorcycle is a calculated risk like most things in life.

if you ride a sportbike down highway 1 from Fort Bragg to SF you will pack more living into 8 hours than most people will experience in a year.

and you mitigate the risk by wearing proper gear, raising your attention to hyper level, and keeping your headlight on.

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