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Old 08-05-2007, 12:25 PM   #1
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How do AFF get away with still sponsoring ThePiratebay?

ThePiratebay still supports ThePiratebay and most of the other Torrentsites

When Sobegirl makes money by ripping people off with unlicensed content, we all jump at his throat. But Lars sends MILLIONS each month to Torrent sites, and yet people he is hailed as a "Bro"

Piratebay use Passion.com, which is just another AFF site

https://secure.passion.com/p/partner...on&action=help


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Old 08-05-2007, 12:28 PM   #2
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No, Lars isn't a bro. He's a shit. Money talks, my friend.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:31 PM   #3
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So just tell them to stop saying shit about Sobe then. They have nothing to discuss about it.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:34 PM   #4
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It is actually the clearest example of what I consider the plundering of the adult business by the dating and cam sites.

Dating and cam sites don't have any "content" that can be traded. Dating sites have none (who is going to want to download a collection of dating profiles) and cam sites have little (recorded cam shows at 2 frames a second isn't the best video content out there).

They have nothing to lose from torrent sites. They have nothing to lose from content theft because they have no content to steal. Their support of torrent sites is specifically bad for the adult business, but too many people are short sighted and look at the dollars they make from dating sites and not the damage done. It is pretty much like a drug addict, to addicted to the high to really care what they are doing to themselves.

If the dating sites had some skin in the game and were losing value because of torrent sites, they would have a different opinion, but as long as they are losing nothing, they just laugh at the adult producers who make the content that is traded for the benefit of the dating sites.

Until the adult business figured out that these sites are the opposition and not partners, things will not change. Lars laughs his ass off every day, knowing full well that every new porn site and every new photoset is a new way for him to make money without cost.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:38 PM   #5
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It is actually the clearest example of what I consider the plundering of the adult business by the dating and cam sites.
I'm not up on who is promoting these sites or not (outside of those that have been mentioned 100+ times here already), but what other cam sites do you know of that are using torrent sites for any means?

(Not challenging or accusing you, just curious)
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:40 PM   #6
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Until the adult business figured out that these sites are the opposition and not partners, things will not change. Lars laughs his ass off every day, knowing full well that every new porn site and every new photoset is a new way for him to make money without cost.
I believe that is one of the questions that will shape the future of porn sites
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:41 PM   #7
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ThePiratebay still supports ThePiratebay
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:43 PM   #8
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Because they want to.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:47 PM   #9
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Mainstream does the same thing now.

Hollywood movies all over the torrent sites, yet the other day I was getting popups to NationalLampoon.com on one of them!
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:49 PM   #10
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I'm not up on who is promoting these sites or not (outside of those that have been mentioned 100+ times here already), but what other cam sites do you know of that are using torrent sites for any means?

(Not challenging or accusing you, just curious)
Outside of cams.com, I have not taken notes. No one program stands out, but I have seen where various white label sites are abused, and other programs get traffic via landing pages and fake front doors. cams is one of the few cam sites that specifically seems to tolerate and potentially encourage torrent sites to run their geo targetted and live update iframe ads.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:52 PM   #11
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I'm not up on who is promoting these sites or not (outside of those that have been mentioned 100+ times here already), but what other cam sites do you know of that are using torrent sites for any means?

(Not challenging or accusing you, just curious)
Most other programs take actions when reported. But Flashlight, Totemcash and AFF are by far those that turn the blind eye to the reports


One other factor is how much ADbrite are represented on the sites
Example: http://www.bittorrenttopsites.com/se...?keywords=porn
And dont give me the crap about Adbrite and AVN are two different companies. Its just a front to cover their own ass.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:56 PM   #12
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On there today include xratedbucks:

http://tour.asianfrenzy.com/logurl/l...2108.TPB500300

and a series of sites from a certain company in Toronto that will remain nameless (but they know who they are).

KimJI, Fleshlight and Totemcash are two more that have no product that can be traded by torrent sites, so they lose nothing.
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Old 08-05-2007, 12:58 PM   #13
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Outside of cams.com, I have not taken notes. No one program stands out, but I have seen where various white label sites are abused, and other programs get traffic via landing pages and fake front doors. cams is one of the few cam sites that specifically seems to tolerate and potentially encourage torrent sites to run their geo targetted and live update iframe ads.
I have seen close to 40 sites using camconomy.net service, and just build a clean and 100% identity free front-page to hide their names
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