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High Quality 09-06-2002 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by LiveDose
Hearing advice out of Germany is laughable and will be for many decades to come. Of all the groups on this earth you all still have a lot to answer to for what happened during this century.

Get some counseling, work on your jealousy issues and you'll be all right.

All you cry babies around the world are a joke. Yes, America has a lot of problems and this country makes many mistakes. However without the influence and assistance that america gives as well as "intervention", many of you would be living under dictatorships with little or no freedom.

Take the good with the bad that's what we all have to do you silly fuckers... Stop whining and just accept the truth.

BTW thank you so much for all the international assistance that we received after being attacked last 9/11...:321GFY
LiveDose

THAT IS PURE BULL SHIT!! America started out as a great nation but today it is a sad wretch of what it used to be. Saw a CNN pole the other day saying near 50% of the people disapprove of the 1st Ammendment. Obviously this German has a valid point on some level.

LiveDose 09-06-2002 04:16 PM

Wow, so they polled EVERYONE and 50% said that...

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Schwick 09-06-2002 08:59 PM

The fact of the matter is that Saddam is a POS. We (the Americans) are taking a course of actions that will divide the world. What side will you stand on? Every one knows this guy and his regime is BS so what are you going to do?...lay in your filth, or let us take care of it and stop fucking whining about it? The whole thing needs to be taken care of sooner or later, and later may be too late. I agree that I wish the rest of the world would get together on this....for Christ's sake the WTC is NO MORE....but choose a side and stand on it. You can bet if this happened in Germany or France or where ever, that we would be the first to stand up and throw the first punch. I know that peace is good and that it is easy to be apathetic, but FUCK OFF with the "USA wants to rule the world BULLSHIT". We want to not have to worry about the future, ours, AND YOURS, you fucking bunch of tagalongs.

Joe Sixpack 09-06-2002 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by LiveDose
Wow, so they polled EVERYONE and 50% said that...

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Do you know anything about statistics?

Do you know what sampling is?

Massivecock 09-06-2002 10:15 PM

Usa Stopped being a Democracy when JFK got shot.

Usa is No longer a Democracy it is 90% Dictatorship.

Usa President Not Elected who is in Office. Paid for by Big Multinational Corporations. Buried in Scandal with all his Rouge
financial dealings.

Member of the Skull and Bones, Trilateral Commission, Cfr, Free Masons, Bilderberg, New World Order, Illuminati...etc
All these groups secretly run the Planet.

Bush is Just a Puppet in the whole scheme.

He was promised power and wealth .. he sold his soul to the Dark side.

He is not alone.

Many others have sold out to the dark side way before bush.

We are leading towards a Microchipped, cashless society.

Controlled already we are.

We are controlled by what we think.

Media has brainwashed us into thinking everything is ok.

Read and research and you shall find otherwise.

Bush & Co along with many other world leaders are planning a major world take over.

But they will make it sound like its for the benefit of mankind
to have a One World Government, Miltary and Banking system.

Beware.. It will be your worst Nightmare.

Plans are already on the way to Dis-Arm all Us Citizens.

It wont happen all at once...Just bit by bit.

They have all the patience in the world.

Im not asking you to believe....

The Truth Will Make its self known when you are ready to accept it.

Bush & Co are using your tax money to plot against you.

Greatest assault since 9/11 has been on the freedom and rights
of americans and World wide citizens alike.

Governments are using it as an excuse to clamp personal freedoms even tighter and take even more power.

They will use Fear to Take even more...

Get ready for some serious Terrorist Events that will make 9/11 look like a picnic.

The Secret Government will do it to scare you into giving up your personal rights for security.

Mark my words... This is sure to happen.

They havent taken it this far, to back down now.

Its all a grand soap opera they have created for the public
to make it look like everything is so black and white.

Manipulation of media and information you are exposed to is their
Greatest weapon against you. ..
They use it to mold your thoughts and your opinions.
They Literally have created your reality for you.
A Living Matrix.

They dont want you to think.
Ever wonder why alcohol it so readily availiable?
In ever corner store.

Then there are some of you who will Declare " Crazy Conspiracy Theorist!"
Thats Fine... you are just caught up in the Media Matrix of Ignorance.
And Ignorance is Bliss...For a while.
Until you wake up and find yourself a slave to the system
that you pay taxes into to keep you in even further Bondange.

No worries I was there once.

In our ignorance we have given responsiblity of our well being
to a bunch of Sinister, Greedy, Evil, Power Freaks that are Hell Bent on Controlling the World through endless taxes, wage cuts,
restrictions, tariffs, National Id Cards, Microchips, Forced Vaccinations, Marshall Law, over 300 Concentration Camps already built and ready to populate on Us soil, A true police state.
The Wave of Propaganda in the Usa is so Massive it is truly appaling.

The Greatest Trick they play on you...is limiting the exposure you have to truth... and filling you with so many lies that even when you are exposed to truth ... you will dismiss it as nonsense, or a goofy consipracy theory.

The Truth is so Bizarre to the Media Conditioned mind.
That I expect Backlash from this article/

We are Living in a Manufactured Reality by the World Powers
Who Conspire to Control and En-slave us.
They already are doing it to us. Its here.. Its now!

Wake wake wake up.

Some usefull links.. Dont fall asleep.. this is your Queue to awaken the power within!

As For Americans... they are not sheep.
They along with practially everyone else in the world have been decieved by these sinister Evil Forces.

And For the Record..
Its not about money... They have already got all of it!
Its not about power... They have about 85% of it.
Its about Control of your minds and your freedoms!

http://www.copvcia.com
http://www.davidicke.net/
watch the video and see what is happening before your eyes... 2 hour vid clip!
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/the_...y__34kbps_.ram
http://www.infowars.com
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archive.html
http://www.unansweredquestions.org/

Massivecock 09-06-2002 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Lev
if the Americans are sheep, then why is the U.S. the most powerful and the most prosperous country on the face of this planet
LOL!!!
thats funny.

hmmm 1% of the population own 95% of America's Wealth..

I would say.. those 1% are prosperous... and not America itself.

Usa went backrupt in 1933 and has been in Debt Ever since.

Try and disprove that.

Since the nations bankruptcy in 1933-- and the subsequent overthrow of the Constitution in 1933--though our governmentwill not "openly and officially" admit it-- its position is that all Natural Born Citizens are also "subjects" with jurisdiction acquired by our "voluntary" contractual participation in Worldwide Social Insurance. Accordingly, all races are considered joined together as 14th Amendment (D.C.) citizens, "subjects" since being "enrolled" into Commerce by their "birth certificate", and by subsequently confirming their consent, when "applying for" such Unilateral Contracts as the Drivers and Marriage Licenses, Social Security Application, Selective Service and Voters' Registration, Bank Accounts, Credit Applications, W-4, and 1040 Income Tax Contracts, etc.

We are born into debt since 1933.

Reasons why it appears we are wealthy?

-Over inflated stock malet by as much as 3/4.
-Big Buildings
-Fast Cars
-Lots of Fast Food Chains.

But everyone has empty bank accounts..!

Hmm dont make to much sense..


Powerfull?
yes.

Because the Gov takes all your tax dollars and spends it on military. Rather than putting you through college, helping you get a job or health care.
700 billion a year on defense!!
Take 1/3 rd of that! 246 billion dollars would put every student in america through college or university from beggining to end.

hmmm....
Are our best interests looked after?

theking 09-06-2002 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Massivecock
Usa Stopped being a Democracy when JFK got shot.

Usa is No longer a Democracy it is 90% Dictatorship.

Since your first statements are not correct, there is not any reason to believe that any of the other statements you have made are correct. The USA was never a Democracy. It is, and always has been, a Republic.

Massivecock 09-07-2002 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by theking


Since your first statements are not correct, there is not any reason to believe that any of the other statements you have made are correct. The USA was never a Democracy. It is, and always has been, a Republic.

True... in one sense.

I refer to JFK due to the fact that he attempted to run the
Elite World Globalist Secret Govt and International Bankers
out of the Usa and Establish a Tax Free Monetary System
based on debt free American Back Currency.

He attempted to Abolish the Cia and the secret Projects and
schemes they were up to.

He attempted to stop the multinational Oil Cartels from taking over.

He was a leader for the people

And when he was murdered for that.

After that, it was all Down hill.

I agree,,,

It has always been a Republic.

When i say Democracy I use in Symbolic Terms... ( For the Common Good of all citizens )

That Leader JFK personified.

Democracy as we know it is Facism under a new mask.
A Gentle more passive Feudal System.
Its a Ideal of Freedom that never was.

Ainur 09-07-2002 01:03 AM

Anyway , EUROPE ------ RULEZ.
Hate Bush .

:BangBang:

:thumbsup

mr pink 09-07-2002 05:02 AM

Great I really liked all the answers, some really clever people out there got me thinking too. Thanks to all of you for taking part I really liked the range of replies.

By sheep, I mean that in all countries their are people who are too stupid to do the thinking for themselves they exist in all countries not just America. These are the poeple the government like, keep them in the dark and manipulate them to be to shit scared to do anything else. They pay their taxes and cause no trouble. Well all have a brain just some of us don't use it.

You as people of one of the most powerful countries in the world can shape the future of this planet we live on. You as webmasters can educate people and make them think. I can post my views on this board freely, I don't expect you all to agree, but "freedom of speech" is what we all believe in.

Most of the people on this board, are thinkers, I can see that by the range of replies that were posted.

Just for the record I am not a German, just living here. So although the Nazis fucked it, if you had talked to any German during the early part of Hitlers reign they would have been behind him 100 % because they believed in the bullshit his propaganda machine pumped out.

Some of you saw this post as an attack on America, so much for your idea of free speech. I never said I sided with terrorists or that I supported the attack on America, to attack people anywhere in the world is WRONG!!!

Whoever did it should be wipped off the face of the planet. But, I do not agree with attacking another nation using some bullshit reasons, when the real reasons are hidden in some money making scheme hatched by the politicians to fill their own pockets.


Mr Pink

12clicks 09-07-2002 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by mr pink
But, I do not agree with attacking another nation using some bullshit reasons, when the real reasons are hidden in some money making scheme hatched by the politicians to fill their own pockets.


Mr Pink

well, that's what makes us Americans and you, uh, whatever it is you are.:1orglaugh

Wizzo 09-07-2002 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by mr pink
. President Bush financed his first oil deal using money he obtained from the Bin Ladin family.

There is no proof that Bin Ladin committed the attack on your country.

False, and yes Bin Laden claimed full responibility for it... Now, was it for the reason publicly stated, No.

I would imagine it had something to do with the opium trade, which has financed many of the Bush's ventures including W's 1st oil deal...

Here's some reading tht might help out:

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm


I agree with alot of what has been said in this thread, but remember he who holds the gold ALWAYS makes the rules...:)

Massivecock 09-07-2002 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by Wizzo


False, and yes Bin Laden claimed full responibility for it... Now, was it for the reason publicly stated, No.

I would imagine it had something to do with the opium trade, which has financed many of the Bush's ventures including W's 1st oil deal...

Here's some reading tht might help out:

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm


I agree with alot of what has been said in this thread, but remember he who holds the gold ALWAYS makes the rules...:)

I'm under the impression that Bush & Co along with many other
Financial International New World Order Bankers, Cia and Black Op's were instrumental in Implementing the Destruction at WTC.
In Fact Bin Laden... may have been a conspirator...but by no means could he have pulled it off without the assistance of Extremely high ranking Usa Government Officials, Structural Engineers and Explosives Experts along with the assistance of FAA and Certain Air Force Captains working with him...
Chances are he had nothing to do with it.

The Powers at be did it to scare Americans into giving up their rights for security.

The Gov caused the problem, suggested a solution, and then implemented a imaginary solution which invovled the restrictions on your rights and freedoms... Mission Accomplished.

War on Terror...
What a Joke!
More Like War on Freedom.

They are Using Fear to get citizens to give up their rights for security. Its an Age old Trick. Just look at history, Nero, Hilter, Stalin.


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