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Old 08-01-2007, 03:19 PM   #1
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If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender...

If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:20 PM   #2
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I wouldn't let him babysit my children.
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I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.
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If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?
Depends on the offender. I might actually fight to be this offender's neighbor: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14499056/

I don't have kids and live alone so I don't have much to fear from a sex offender. I'd keep an eye on him (or her) but wouldn't sweat it much. That doesn't mean I would invite him over for a beer but I wouldn't run him out of the neighborhood. It's better they live next to me where they can do no harm than across from a school or something like that.

If I had kids it would be an entirely different story.
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I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.
yes... this is what we're supposed to do...
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Depends on the offender. I might actually fight to be this offender's neighbor: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14499056/

I don't have kids and live alone so I don't have much to fear from a sex offender. I'd keep an eye on him (or her) but wouldn't sweat it much. That doesn't mean I would invite him over for a beer but I wouldn't run him out of the neighborhood. It's better they live next to me where they can do no harm than across from a school or something like that.

If I had kids it would be an entirely different story.
actually, I need to add, that there are 2 schools within 800 ft. of him and a school bus stop directly accross the street...
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If you found out your neighbor is a registered sex offender, what would you do?
Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).
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For some reason people seem to think that all sex offenders are child predators.

This guy may as well have slapped a female co-worker on the ass.
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actually, I need to add, that there are 2 schools within 800 ft. of him and a school bus stop directly accross the street...
Depends on what he did. If he's really and truly a child molester then perhaps it's time to start nudging him out of the neighborhood however you see fit.
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For some reason people seem to think that all sex offenders are child predators.

This guy may as well have slapped a female co-worker on the ass.
this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.
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I'd politely let him know that I know.

Tell him I won't be rude to him, but myself and my family will be keeping an eye out, so if he gets one of his urges he best go elsewhere.


TELL HIM T O GO ELSEWHERE? yeah - its all good as long as its someone elses kid.

I would tell him, "politely" that I don't like him, and that I will be watchign him closely and if I even see him look at a kid ANYONES kid with the slightest hint of anything inappropriate... that I will be paying him a visit - and it won't be social.
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this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.
Hmm. So, basically, he probably had an underage girlfriend?
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Hmm. So, basically, he probably had an underage girlfriend?
perhaps. but it'd had have to been along time ago: DOB: 02-11-1954
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perhaps. but it'd had have to been along time ago: DOB: 02-11-1954
Hmm. That does make it seem somewhat dubious.

Then again, I'm 25 and have 16 year old girlfriend... who am I to talk.
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this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.
yea, i would be asking what age he was at when he got labelled
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I wouldn't care or even think about it; I don't have kids.

I live in California, if you live in any big city in California, there will always be some sex offenders around you, sometimes even quite a few, you just can't escape it.

I'm too busy with my own life to care about other people.
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I would politely let him know that I'm not cool with him........with my fists.
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if it's a girl, i'd sexually offend her pussy.
if it's a guy, i'd sexually offend him with a baseball bat up the wazoo.
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14 or 15 years old? I'd make a petition and have evryone sign it to have him evicted. those type of people should have been taken out back of the court house and shot
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14 or 15 years old? I'd make a petition and have evryone sign it to have him evicted. those type of people should have been taken out back of the court house and shot
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I know I would tell all the parents in the community that a sex offender is my neighbor. And, if I saw anything questionable going on, I would call the police.

Otherwise, treat the person like any neighbor with respect. The scary part is if the person is REALLY A SEX OFFENDER, they can't help themselves and will probably act again.
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If i had 14 years old son and he fucked his teacher i would be sooooo proud !
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I would politely let him know that I'm not cool with him........with my fists.
one thing I am sure of is that I will not be resorting to violence... how would I be able to protect my kids from jail?


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I know I would tell all the parents in the community that a sex offender is my neighbor. And, if I saw anything questionable going on, I would call the police.

Otherwise, treat the person like any neighbor with respect. The scary part is if the person is REALLY A SEX OFFENDER, they can't help themselves and will probably act again.
this is likely the route I will be taking. one thing that worries me, though, is what constitutes harrassment... it's possible that me telling others could make him feel harrassed... with my newfound motive, I think I'd prolly end up looking like the bad guy trying to stir shit up... I dunno... these types of things go thru my mind...


maybe someone has actually dealt with this before?
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one thing I am sure of is that I will not be resorting to violence... how would I be able to protect my kids from jail?




this is likely the route I will be taking. one thing that worries me, though, is what constitutes harrassment... it's possible that me telling others could make him feel harrassed... with my newfound motive, I think I'd prolly end up looking like the bad guy trying to stir shit up... I dunno... these types of things go thru my mind...


maybe someone has actually dealt with this before?
Why worry about the legal stuff if stuff is happening before your eyes? If you see sfuff that is not right, report it.

A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.

Really sad
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Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).
True, some guys are on the list for adult prostitution related activity.

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this is what he was convicted of:

f288(c) LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD 14 OR 15 YEARS OLD

the registry does make a distinction between crimes against children and crimes against adults.
What you need to find out now is how old he was when this happened. I'd also get the details of the alligations from the police. If this guy was 18 and he slept with a 15yo, let's face it, he's not going to be nabbing little girls off the street as some people may fear of a "sexual preditor."

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Nothing until I found out how he/she became a "sex offender". The label seems to be applied very liberally in the US and may have little to do with actual sex offenses (rape, assault, children etc).
That's for sure. I think you can get on that list for 2257 violations now. Seriously.

Also for urinating in public.
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Why worry about the legal stuff if stuff is happening before your eyes? If you see sfuff that is not right, report it.

A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.

Really sad
I agree, but I haven't seen anything happening... I would and will report if I do see anything.

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True, some guys are on the list for adult prostitution related activity.



What you need to find out now is how old he was when this happened. I'd also get the details of the alligations from the police. If this guy was 18 and he slept with a 15yo, let's face it, he's not going to be nabbing little girls off the street as some people may fear of a "sexual preditor."
exactly. one thing that I've concluded from this is that the lack of details with the registry really isn't fair to the people that are on it for relatively minor events, etc... it does state the charge they were conviccted of, but no date... so, yeah it is possible it was a situation where he was 18, she was 15 and the parents got mad... just too many unanswered questions,in my opinion.

the picture of him is current... but maybe they require a new picture every so often...

and on the flip side the lack of info can also hide guys that are actually worse than you think... goes both ways.

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Also for urinating in public.
true, but it actually states that as the conviction if it's the case.
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I will keep it to my self.......
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I found out after we moved in - right next door. GRRRRRRRRRRR

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Criminals are everywhere, even on GFY.

Sometimes they even learn their lesson, and change.

That said, I wouldn't hire him as a babysitter. But other than that, I wouldn't worry about it.
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IPersonally, I'd move. I've been through some stuff in my life that would not let me sleep at night knowing who/what was next door to me. I'm sure its different for males, but as a female that's been in nightmare situations with guys like that, it's much different.
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That's for sure. I think you can get on that list for 2257 violations now. Seriously.

Also for urinating in public.
Yep - there are some weird scenarios where folks get stuffed on the "sex offenders" lists. This may be bad when it waters down the relevance of real offenders.

A couple of years back I had a guided "tour" of middle class tree-lined suburbia - around 10-15 blocks in size. It was amazing how many crooks there were in that relatively small area

There were the usual sex offenders, kidnappers, armed robbers, murderers etc, but an amazing number of drugs-related convictions and these folks were still in business from, mainly their homes (or places which were homes). Asked why they had not be raided? Reply - No hurry, there are bigger fish to get intell on and can deal with the small fry when there is a day free.

Don't know if this was an "average" community, but seemed more than peaceful. If it is average - sure as hell there will be "sex offenders" and plenty others as next door neighbors
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A 'real' sex offender should be lock up for life or shot. Studies, research and whatever, show that legal system cannot reform them, and just lets them go back to be caught again just because they served their time.
That is simply not true. In fact, it's complete nonsense.

What studies show is that sexual offenders, and child molesters in particular, actually are way less likely than other criminals to repeat their crimes.

Here are some numbers from an Economist article:
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Men convicted of sex offences involving children are not, in fact, all that likely to commit further crimes. Of those released in 2002, 17% were in trouble again within two years. That may sound appalling, but compared with other ex-cons, sex offenders were paragons of virtue. The re-conviction rate for all criminals was 60% (see chart). Most incorrigible were men who stole from vehicles, 85% of whom had been re-convicted within the same period.

It is also likely that most of the child sex offenders who got into trouble after their release were collared for a different (and less appalling) crime. A study by America's Department of Justice found that, while 39% of child molesters were arrested again within three years of release, just 3% were suspected of another sex crime against a child.

Some convicted child molesters will have returned to their old ways and not been caught, of course. Others will have lapsed later, so their crimes will not show up in the statistics. But the same is true of other criminals. And the police presumably keep closer tabs on sex offenders than on, say, burglars?otherwise, what is the point of all those lists?
The question whether even that small a risk should be taken is another matter. Still, to make an informed judgment, one needs to have the facts. (another fact: most sex offenders victimize people in their own circle of friends and family)
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That is simply not true. In fact, it's complete nonsense.

What studies show is that sexual offenders, and child molesters in particular, actually are way less likely than other criminals to repeat their crimes.

Here are some numbers from an Economist article:
http://www.economist.com/world/brita..._id=E1_VQTRPDT

The question whether even that small a risk should be taken is another matter. Still, to make an informed judgment, one needs to have the facts. (another fact: most sex offenders victimize people in their own circle of friends and family)
It's hard to contest these stats and accept them at face value - but, - assume they were compiled accurately and the comment on them is balanced - gotta accept them

Will throw in my anyways Generally child abusers were probably victims and the perpetrate further abuse as adults - it's a vicious cycle. Each is different in that some can't see anything wrong with their offenses and others know very well what they are doing. It's also a "hidden world" where, as you said, most offenses are within family units and may never be recorded as stats (but with amazing levels of damage among victims).

Sadly this shit is dramatically increasing in the US - only reason I can think of is the "vicious cycle" syndrome where eg one person may commit ten offenses - and eg seven of these ten victims then perpetrate offences on others - and the virus spreads. It is also prob fair to say that an individual with one actual conviction is not the sum total of his/her offenses - they were busy offending before they got caught with enough witness testimony to make the charges viable. But, suppose the same thing applies to car theft etc
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I once had a housekeeper, and I found out that her husband was a registered sex offender for sexual assault of a child under 16 years of age.

Her husband had never been to my house, but I fired her over it anyway. Cannot take any chances when you have children at home with people like that, or with people associated with them.
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I wouldn't let him babysit my children.
haha... true. Stay the fuck away from him.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:30 PM   #40
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I found out after we moved in - right next door. GRRRRRRRRRRR

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what did you do? is it where you currently live?
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:33 PM   #41
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I once had a housekeeper, and I found out that her husband was a registered sex offender for sexual assault of a child under 16 years of age.

Her husband had never been to my house, but I fired her over it anyway. Cannot take any chances when you have children at home with people like that, or with people associated with them.
yeah, it'd be a natural presumtion to think that she knew of it, and therefore was ok with it. this guy is married also, and I'm guessing she knows of it as well.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:34 PM   #42
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you can do ..........nothing
not true. I could move.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:42 PM   #43
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if it's a child offender i would put cameras on his house from my house.

i don't have children but if I did I would ask them to leave and put pressure on them from the community and neighbors to do so as well.

the percentage of those people who get rehibilitation for that crime is ExTREMELY low according to the criminology stats. - THAT's SCARRY

if i caught someone messing with a kid in the act - not sure what I'd do but honestly I believe I'd be capable of murdering them in that instant.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:24 AM   #44
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I'd ask his GFY screenname. J/K. I'd probably put my house for sale if I had kids and liked them.
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:41 AM   #45
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I'd ask his GFY screenname. J/K. I'd probably put my house for sale if I had kids and liked them.
only if you liked your kids?
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Old 08-02-2007, 06:56 AM   #46
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actually, I need to add, that there are 2 schools within 800 ft. of him and a school bus stop directly accross the street...
What if the guy just moved to the US from france, and was at the beach, and changed into a speedo on the beach, and while doing so, some woman saw his dick, and called the cops. They arrest him, charge him, and list him as a sexual offender.. ( This has happened in Miami. ) How would you treat him. He is still a sexual offender.
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Punch in your zip code at http://www.mapsexoffenders.com...

You'll be unpleasantly surprised.
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It would really depend on why they were on the list. If it was a serious charge then I am not honestly all that sure. If it was kid related I would keep my distance but keep an eye on the kids in the neighborhood when they were out. If it was rape against an adult, etc I honestly don't know because I would like to say I would just be on my guard but until it happens I can't predict my feelings.

That said, I live in a built up area on the edge of a major city..I am sure there is probably one as a neighbor already.
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hard to say...i am usually highly confrontational..so i hope i wouldnt find myself marching over there

best to view from a distance..maybe cameras like sleazy said....let him know
and let him know i wont be calling the police if i think he fucks up

man there are guys who would almost pay money to come and take that guy away...freebies..you dont have to pay them for it..lol
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if it's a child offender i would put cameras on his house from my house.

i don't have children but if I did I would ask them to leave and put pressure on them from the community and neighbors to do so as well.

the percentage of those people who get rehibilitation for that crime is ExTREMELY low according to the criminology stats. - THAT's SCARRY

if i caught someone messing with a kid in the act - not sure what I'd do but honestly I believe I'd be capable of murdering them in that instant.
Which criminology stats, exactly? I keep hearing people say what you're saying, but I have never seen a single, actual study confirming it. On the other hand, I have seen reputable publications (such as the one posted above) saying the exact opposite, and giving numbers and sources.

Here's another source:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/viort.htm

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# Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.
# Sex offenders were about four times more likely than non-sex offenders to be arrested for another sex crime after their discharge from prison –– 5.3 percent of sex offenders versus 1.3 percent of non-sex offenders.
# Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.
Recidivism among sex offenders actually is less than it is among other convicts. If they commit crimes again, most often by far these crimes are not sex crimes.
And, although it isn't explicitly mentioned here, one can derive from these stats that while sex offenders are more likely to commit new sex crimes than other criminals, new sex crimes are more likely to be committed by released "general" criminals than by released sex offenders. After all, sex offenders make up far less than a quarter of convicts, so if they are four times more likely to commit new sex crimes, the general population of convicts - being much larger - is a more significant threat in this area.
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