I think you mean libelous

hmmmmm.....see my sig for ways to jerk to this thread!

You said...

"Steve, stop screwing over affiliates and stealing money"

and I repeat.... he is the most generous guy I know in the biz. I have not met anyone who has given back to affiliates, more then Steve.

You're gonna get roasted :1orglaugh

OMGz nawt teh viral interweb marketings!

I found every single jordan capri video on one thread on a forum site 6 months ago. Those links above there make them look like kittens food compared to the thread.

http://forum.phun.org/ - search jordan capri - 10 pages!!!!!!!!

UK sig spot if no one minds too much?

Taa, Cheers!

for the 7 or so years that I have been friends with Steve and he has been nothing but fair and generous to anyone and everyone he does any kind of business with. I find it funny that you want to bash someone for doing exactly what he is supposed to do when someone breaks the rules you steal you break the rules you get banned

digging deeper and deeper, oh by the way hes in england, not amsterdam, i can give you details if you wish

where is the bathroom?

I thought that forum was banned completely from posting full videos and stuff?
hmmmmmmmmmmm :Oh crap

to the left, make sure you wash your hands after :Oh crap

I don't know can you See It :winkwink:

calling steve a cheater is like calling george bush the greatest president in the history of the USA

Im not calling him a cheater. He was perfectly legally entitiled to do what he did. I just think its very UNETHICAL and my opinion it makes him a scumbag. I have never met him, hopefully never will but i can only judge those on my experiences.

The drama never ends... i'm sure Steve will be here soon!

Wonder if he even knows about it? He's been rather busy lately, with his new upcoming Program, Wrong Way:thumbsup

decisions to burn bridges, in my opinion, are judgements based on emotions, rather than business sense and logic

just becuase there are thieves out there doesnt mean its ok for everyone to break the rules. We all have to stand together to fight copyright infringement and illegal activity.
If this was just over a 30 second clip or whatever, Im sure you or whoever else with the issue could explain that to them, and this could be worked out.
If that is what this is about.

I agree 100%,the highpoint of this thread so far.:thumbsup

For those who are wondering what actually happened with the affiliate that squizzel is referring to see:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...7&postcount=27

See....some people have the capacity to recognize when they've done something wrong.....:2 cents:

As the copyright holder, he is perfectly entitled to do with his content what he pleases and its his right to enforce infringement. You may not like it, but it is his decision and right to do. Next time, get the copyright holders permission first...
WG

Can someone tell me why the links were removed, they were there to prove a point.

Glad to see that you took my apologize seriously , now can i get my sales back ?

The only thing i can say about steeve/lighspeed, is that they should hit us up privatly since we were in direct contact and maybe have a small talk before closing my account and keep 2 years of rebills and all my last preriod sales ... all this for 1 minute of boring porn.

I know , i had to be the exemple..

Now please squizzle keep me off your trouble.

Well said man :thumbsup


squizzel, did you talk to Steve? ask him why? he did nothing wrong by the sounds of it, probably couldve been handled a lot better if asked him on icq :2 cents:

Something we can agree on.

Here's the rub - the 3k he made from that affiliate may have been lost many times over from other affiliates who couldn't or wouldn't use the same material without permission and wouldn't abuse the system like that.

If it is the case I remember, it isn't only using video that was SPECIFICALLY restricted to the members area, but the guy had the nuts to put his logo / URL on the video as well.

Please, tell the whole story.

The theme of this thread :2 cents:

nothing from steve yet????

u think a 1minute promo clip did that much damage... yeah right.

You just don't get the point... I could make a gallery using the hardcore parts of that video and easily get 50+ sales that week, but because it does not accurately represent the rest of the site those members are NOT going to rebill and many of them will be pissed off and charge back.

That video is the most hardcore part of her site and your friend was giving it away for free... Of course he doesn't deserve to keep the money generated from it, that's like a spammer sending out 10000000 emails to generate sales then expecting to keep the revenue even though it's against the programs terms.

First 1) I dont like Steve Lightspeed just for they way he posts here.
2) Just stop sending traffic to his fucking sites. When he complains about you for posting a 10 minute clip from his site + sending him a few sales. let it go. If someone wants his stuff for free there are donkey. torrent, usenet and so on and he will not get a single sale for that.

I visited your board and i guess it is ok. there are no full lenght movies, there are no memberarea passwords. It´s just that the clips presented there are a bit longer than ordinary FHG clips and he is sending you sales and fame with that.

I would be glad if there are some sales from sites like his.

Steve is bar far one of the nicest, most genuine individuals in the business. He's also a smart business owner and whether or not you agree with his business decisions at the end of the day they are entirely up to him. The issue of copyrights is one of principle and control. It's the owner's discretion to do what makes him the best long term or short term money or to make decisions that are revenue negative if he fundamentally disagrees with the activity.

Brad

There is only 1 thing that keeps comming to mind every time I see an issue like this on the boards in a public forum.... Why in the world do people not just ICQ each other with there issues? 99% of the time it would end in "oh man I'm sorry I didn't know or mean to do anything wrong, let me fix that right away!" But instead of doing it the right way, the way people in any other business would handle it, they come straight to the public and start accusing, name calling, threatening lawsuites and more! If this is how non internet/adult business went in every day life, there would be drive by shootings in business parks, people calling the cops on each other over simple misunderstandings, people going to the news and ruining each others reputation over little things. I can't think of a silly enough example but lets try - It would be like hiring a guy to cut your grass and if he left without weedwacking the perimeter, well instead of calling him to talk about it you went straight to the news and ruined his reputation, then he fights back and threatens to sue and on and on.... Why is it only in our business the first place people go with there troubles is to the public? I would never call some one out on here without first trying everything I could to work it out directly with the person I had the beef with. This post is not about steve or the other guy in this thead, that part is non of my biz,but rather everyone in general I see atleast 1 thread a day like this, the a pulic apology a few days later.... HAHAHAHA

Anyone who ever worked with nick/crakmedia knows he is a good guy and a real pro.

Some people need to stfu.

Mad Views

is it late for my siggy?

Michael Vick >>>>> Squizzel

Never to late my friend... Never to late !