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Varius 07-24-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HighEnergy (Post 12807121)
SmokeyTheBear has no business ethics BV, read 19,000 of his 20,000 posts. Scammer through and through. Always cutting corners, always pointing out the 'easy way', always a 'backdoor' answer. One of the people who have helped give the adult industry it's scummy position in society. Pure cellophane.

Are you high? I usually stay away from answering posters such as yourself, but I have to say STB is one of the more useful and informative posters on GFY. I almost always click his threads, more than I can say for the rest of GFY :2 cents:

Theo The Theologian 07-24-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 12811828)
Are you high? I usually stay away from answering posters such as yourself, but I have to say STB is one of the more useful and informative posters on GFY. I almost always click his threads, more than I can say for the rest of GFY :2 cents:

I agree. Smokey is one of the good guys.

PS God said to turn your lights off when leaving the room.

Varius 07-24-2007 07:57 PM

As a sponsor who has done 100% Revshare promos before, if you are doing a limited-time promotion you often expect to lose a little on it. Consider it part of your marketing budget, the idea being to attract new traffic to your program and hope some of it remains when the promo ends.

I think it is wrong for any program to charge the affiliate processing fees. I know one program who I like except for the fact their 60% is actually ends up as 53-54%. The program should swallow the fees and adjust their payouts accordingly IMO :2 cents:

For those programs who do offer a true 100% Revshare that's not a promotion, you have to think they are doing one of two things: making money from upsells, in which case more power to them if it means they can pay you more money out, or shaving you which with most programs is easily detected if you put a little effort into testing them.

Varius 07-24-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Theo The Theologian (Post 12811845)
I agree. Smokey is one of the good guys.

PS God said to turn your lights off when leaving the room.

His intel must be wrong, I work in the dark :winkwink:

JakeR 07-24-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Theo The Theologian (Post 12806160)
I'm not saying anything other than the fact that a certain billing company is charging 5% (for beta) so if someone wants to save some money on processing and gain more features they might want to icq me. :thumbsup

domestic or offshore?
I have a client that needs to shift about 40k/month
icq in sig

Penny24Seven 07-24-2007 09:03 PM

so 45 dollars a sale on a 29.99 membership is a scam? you are saying you can't get paid more then the sale buy they do it all the time,

he-fox 07-24-2007 10:48 PM

if the price of the membership is 29.95 and as an affiliate I get 29.95, it's 100% revshare.

now, there are some programs that deduct the processing costs from the membership price separately, there are some that do not.

offering 100% revshare for a limited period is a promotional incentive, not a long term business practice.

BV 07-24-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 12812114)
so 45 dollars a sale on a 29.99 membership is a scam? you are saying you can't get paid more then the sale buy they do it all the time,

you don't know what the hell your talking about,

sounds to me like your talking about pay per sign up, this thread is about revshare, where you get paid a percentage of every sale and every rebill until that member cancels

if the membership is 29.99 and it's 100% revshare, then you get 29.99 the first month, and then 29.99 each month that member rebills

in order to do a 100% revshare the sponsor would have to pay the processing fees which in this example would be about 4 bucks for the first sale and 4 bucks each rebill for as long as that member is active, thus it costs the sponsor money

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now i will ramble on a bit more in response to the other posts:

I understand that this can be a promo, but if the sponsor pays out 100% on the first sale and then back to normal on the rebills, that's not 100% revshare

if the sponsor takes out the processing fees and gives you the rest on every sale you make during the promo period (including all the rebills from those sales) that's cool, but still not 100% revshare

that's the point i'm making and the TITLE of this thread.

There is no 100% revshare!

and for that matter, look closely and don't be swayed by 80% revshare and shit like that

like don't choose one program over another just because one is 70 and the other is 60, READ THE FINE PRINT

and by all means look in the members area and see how many upsells there are, the last thing you want to do is send your members to a site with a members area that is full of leaks

Do you see adds for Burger king on the counter at Mcdonalds?
Do Playboy magazines have adds for Hustler?
Does GFY let you post links to other Adult message boards?

Fuck No! Why do you think that is?

TheDoc 07-24-2007 11:25 PM

My program pays 60%, and I pay the processing fees.. If I have a 100% promotion, you get 100%.

A program "can" pay 100% and cover the processing fees and continue to make money.

First all programs make a % of in-house sales from webmaster traffic, just natural error. Then a % of cancels will always return. Then you have 404's and 401's can earn a great deal of money, exits/pop under, emails and cancel mails, member upsells galore and member cross sales to your own or other sites, then xsales, upgrade plus, member plus and the mixture of processor money opportunities. Then getting the people onto your other traffic networks, creating bookmarks, cycling the traffic back through. Lets not forget webmaster error on getting the wrong codes or not following the promotion..

I haven't really looked at 100% programs or promotions before, so I can't say if they take out processing fees, but I don't think they all have to cover the truth. Traffic makes money in many ways.

Dagwolf 07-25-2007 01:43 AM

I'm having a Gomer moment. Well, Gaaawwwwwwwwlee!

Paul 07-25-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12812545)
My program pays 60%, and I pay the processing fees.. If I have a 100% promotion, you get 100%.

A program "can" pay 100% and cover the processing fees and continue to make money.

First all programs make a % of in-house sales from webmaster traffic, just natural error. Then a % of cancels will always return. Then you have 404's and 401's can earn a great deal of money, exits/pop under, emails and cancel mails, member upsells galore and member cross sales to your own or other sites, then xsales, upgrade plus, member plus and the mixture of processor money opportunities. Then getting the people onto your other traffic networks, creating bookmarks, cycling the traffic back through. Lets not forget webmaster error on getting the wrong codes or not following the promotion..

I haven't really looked at 100% programs or promotions before, so I can't say if they take out processing fees, but I don't think they all have to cover the truth. Traffic makes money in many ways.

I just checked out your blog, some really good info on it :thumbsup

Paul 07-25-2007 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 12812545)
My program pays 60%, and I pay the processing fees.. If I have a 100% promotion, you get 100%.

A program "can" pay 100% and cover the processing fees and continue to make money.

First all programs make a % of in-house sales from webmaster traffic, just natural error. Then a % of cancels will always return. Then you have 404's and 401's can earn a great deal of money, exits/pop under, emails and cancel mails, member upsells galore and member cross sales to your own or other sites, then xsales, upgrade plus, member plus and the mixture of processor money opportunities. Then getting the people onto your other traffic networks, creating bookmarks, cycling the traffic back through. Lets not forget webmaster error on getting the wrong codes or not following the promotion..

Doc I have a question

Of all the things you listed above that programs make money from, what sort of percentage of overall sales would that roughly make up?


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