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Old 07-23-2007, 05:25 PM   #1
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Is GFY loosing it's advertising value because of the trolls?

Had a couple of beers and this came to my mind, I mean I don't see here the old school guys that much lately and, actually guys like Sleazy seem to be essential to this board just because they are still around.

I guess the advertising value here might rely also on the ones that still tend to return here because this is the elite board that the big dogs visit.

Maybe it's not just the beer but also that I really like to learn something and challenge others, not to read gossip.

Fuck it I am going to sleep, will reply tomorrow once I get out of all the meetings.
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:26 PM   #2
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:27 PM   #3
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I thought the trolls were what MADE the ads have value...?

wait, what?
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:27 PM   #4
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no it is losing because of the BROS!
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:28 PM   #5
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This place is powered by tholls and drama... Without them it's dead...
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:30 PM   #6
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I know gfy has advertising, but advertising value.... hmmm
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:31 PM   #7
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This place has always had trolls ever since I've been here
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:45 PM   #8
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This place has always had trolls ever since I've been here
Well we've been given various definitions of, "Bro", so what are the definitions of, Troll..?
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Old 07-23-2007, 05:46 PM   #9
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Ther would be like 3 people posting here if there were no trolls.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:27 PM   #10
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yea, its in the shitter. i would not spend ad dollars here.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:38 PM   #11
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Well we've been given various definitions of, "Bro", so what are the definitions of, Troll..?
An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous message to bait people to answer. Forum Troll delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is someone who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion. Flaming discussions usually end with name calling and a flame war.

A classic CureZone troll is trying to make us believe that he is a skeptic. He is divisive and argumentative with need-to-be-right attitude, "searching for the truth", flaming discussion, and sometimes insulting people or provoking people to insult him. Troll is usually an expert in reusing the same words of its opponents and in turning it against them.

While he tries to present himself as a skeptic looking for truth ... his messages usually sound as if it is the responsibility of other forum members to provide evidence that what forum is all about is legitimate science.

He (and in 90% of cases it is he) tries to start arguments and upset people.

Sometimes, he is skeptical, trying to scare people, trying to plant fear in their hearts. Many curezone trolls are people trying to promote Quackwatch / ratbags agenda.

Sometimes, Internet troll is trying to spin conflicting information, is questioning in an insincere manner, flaming discussion, insulting people, turning people against each other, harassing forum members, ignoring warnings from forum moderators.
Trolling is a form of harassment that can take over a discussion. Well meaning defenders can create chaos by responding to trolls. The best response is to ignore it, or to report a message to a forum moderator. CureZone moderators usually delete troll messages or block trolls. Negative emotions stirred up by trolls leak over into other discussions. Normally affable people can become bitter after reading an angry interchange between a troll and his victims, and this can poison previously friendly interactions between long-time users.

Finally, trolls create a paranoid environment, such that a casual criticism by a new arrival can elicit a ferocious and inappropriate backlash.

When trolls are ignored they step up their attacks, desperately seeking the attention they crave. Their messages become more and more foul, and they post ever more of them. Alternatively, they may protest that their right to free speech is being curtailed. Perhaps the most difficult challenge for a webmaster is deciding whether to take steps against a troll that a few people find entertaining. Some trolls do have a creative spark and have chosen to squander it on being disruptive. There is a certain perverse pleasure in watching some of them. Ultimately, though, the webmaster has to decide if the troll actually cares about putting on a good show for the regular participants, or is simply playing to an audience of one -- himself.
Next time you are on a message board and you see a post by somebody whom you think is a troll, and you feel you must reply, simply write a follow-up message entitled "Troll Alert" and type only this:

The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction and not to respond to rolling messages. It is well known that most people don't read messages that nobody responds to, while 99% of forum visitors first read the longest and the largest threads with the most answers.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:38 PM   #12
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Troll make shaving possible. Where would be without them?
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:50 PM   #13
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:58 PM   #14
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An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who .................................................. ..................
Holy Jesus!! That's a lot of ground that they cover..

Found this too:
The contemporary use of the term first appeared on Usenet groups in the late 1980s . It is a thought to be a truncation of the phrase trolling for suckers, .....
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:58 PM   #15
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:37 AM   #16
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Well I really didn't wanted to dishonor anyone's business. No matter how weird anyone can behave on boards they still can be sane people in real.

Just I somehow find a little bit weird when a thread with artificial drama gets 20 times more attention and 10 following threads than a little bit more sane or even a little bit biz thread.

It's just about the same "real drama" as Jerry Springer, and almost the same popular.

Might be the best if we finally launch the damn new program and US brand and start to advertise

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Old 07-24-2007, 09:13 AM   #17
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I was under the impression GFY was for business networking and I feel that the trolls are using the bandwidth that is intended for those who are trying to use this service... If you give some sound advice here at GFY you have at least 10 -20 people stating why such info in not valid without any proof.

Between under educated webmaster being taking advantage of by "black SEO" types and rank noobs who can't back their mouths... Yea I think the trolls are taking away from the user experience...
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:47 AM   #18
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Directly after the BBS was invented the next invention was the troll.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:52 AM   #19
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No not at all, without them the board would die. Its the trolls (as you call them) wich keep it entertaining and makes the people come back and keep the pageviews up.

Thats just my opinion though.

BTW if advertisers would care they could just pick any other board as there are plenty without all the crap like on GFY. But they simply don;t ;))
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:00 AM   #20
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i would say no.. view counts and post counts go up
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:56 AM   #21
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:04 AM   #22
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GFY is still by far the biggest adult webmaster community.

So sponsors will keep on advertising here
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:07 AM   #23
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If anything made GFY 'lose' ad revenue it would be shitty performance.

Trolls have always been essential to this community.
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