The dust only is around 1' deep.. how do you think the huge amounts of energy, in a vacuum, would cause a deeper dent in the DUST than the 1' it actually has?

That is all I am saying... it gets even less detectable if you make the range of dust the blast caused to change bigger... there is only a certain amount of dust there, the footprints localize the changes and cause actual prints that light causes shadows with... Without those, you get no 3rd image on a photo, thus you can not really SEE it either..

Nathan, you are clearly looking for ways to justify this for yourself. It's nothing short of ignoring the forest for the trees. The crater would have noticeable size. That's the bottom line. Now, I understand the NASA reps coming with ridiculous versions of why there would be no crater, cause they must do something to cover their asses. They are in "all or nothing" tight spot so they will take any measures to cover up their lies, even at a price of winning the bullshit awards. But when a smart guy who (I assume) is not associated with NASA makes himself look like a fool justifying this non sense, that makes wander what the heck you?re on?

I really don't know all the things they did.. But I heard they put monkeys in open space to see what would happen, they did a lot of animal tests to see what it would take 20 years later to build a space station.



Kinda late right now.. But it was during the Cuban missile crises.. We were going to attack ourselves, kill our own people.. so we could.. either attack cuba or russian subs, been awhile. It's been on TV, read the document myself.. But I really can't recall its name.



Oh man, much harder to goto he moon, it's much much further away. Our space station orbits around us, we can't just go up whenever we feel like it, it's all planned based on the position of the station.


This isn't easy to explain.. The gravitational pull that covers the moon, is strong enough to hold humans and a rocket. It's actually is stronger the closer you get to the moon. Even earths at around 50k "feet" (or so) starts to go away, that isn't very far. So it's not a full vacuum around the moon, shit doesn't just float away and they didn't kick off the moon the climb back in.


Not being on the moon every myself, I can't really say.. But from what I gather the moon is either really fucking hot or cold, since it doesn't have a a strong polarity to protect itself. (thats why the sun doesn't cook the earth and us humans)

I see pictures and video of 100% incorrect light angles and then them standing in the brightest spots.. We use the earth to protect our people from direct exposure to the sun for a reason.

Otherwise, over the last 8 years I have just found things, different view points, ect.. in both directions. It's not like I ignored what I was told, I thought it to be true, I still want to think it is true.

Sorry, but I do not beleive conspiracy theories involving hundreds if not thousands of people can be kept quiet... I also do not have a reason to beleive the videos are fake. I have yet to hear of any reason why its so impossible that it was done...

All the big arguements I know of are stupid. Maybe I do not know enough arguements though... A smart guy like you beleiving in conspiracy theories makes ME wonder why YOU are on.

Other than the crater, that you claim MUST be there, and that physisists have explained over and over again why they are not, what great things are there to prove that they are fake?

The reason conspiracy theories work is that many people are simply not intelligent enough to grasp the bigger concepts. Its EASIER for someone to prove to you that it can impossibly be true, since you do not have anything to UNDERSTAND there.. you simply take the "there must be a crater" as a fact. Than someone proving to you that there can not be a crater, because there always is a simple way for the conspiracy theorist to disprove that, by saying "it was faked too". There is physics involved here that most people do not understand and things people do not understand, they tend to not beleive. Its that simple.

This does not make the moon landings fake though.

And before you come with the standard stupid arguments:
1) There are no stars in the sky in the videos: The exposure time is too low, its daylight, the moon reflects light well, the exposure time must be short so that you can see anything in the first place. (Proof of the moon reflecting light well: look at the fucking moon)
2) The shadows are wrong in the videos sometimes: Its a wide angle lens AND its simply hills which cause the shadows to fall differently.
3) The flag waves, it can not do that on the moon, because there is no wind: Correct, there is no wind, the flag waves because the pole is moved around while sticking it into the moon soil. The flag looks like it waves later because thats how it was setup, it does not actually move, the cloth is just not straight on the top supporting pole.

Also, do explain why there are videos of one of the moon rovers moving and throwing up dust which falls back down in a way it can only do in a vacuum? And do not tell me that they created a false vacuum in the studio, because that would fuck up your "the flag waves" theory...

Actually not so sure what is harder, the moon is a lot bigger, a lot easier to hit than the space station. A lot more calculations to do to get to the space station, a lot more equipment needed to fly the space shuttle to it and actually dock to the tiny thing they connect to.

You gotta start small, I can not beleive that the space shuttle is easier than landing on the moon. You do not START with something like the space shuttle, you start with easier things first...

This doesn't even answer my question, what does any of this have to do with the fact that you think the videos were faked, and its very easy to fake pictures of the footsteps that you claim would prove they were there?

I know the moon is not a full vacuum, its very close to it though. There is video of an astronaut letting a feather and a hammer drop on the moon and they land on the surface at the same time. How did they fake that one? Pump out the air from the studio?

They are wearing a space suit, you do know that, right? It does not protect against solar flare radiation, but it protects against heat. The sun exposure OUTSIDE of the space station is worst than on the moon.. yet you do not question that?

I have not sadly seen any proof that shows it was faked :( I want to see it too!

FREAKIN A RIGHT WE GOT DA CHEESE IN WISCO!

I would continue this but it's 1am and my kids are going to get up at 6, I know this!!!

The moon is just a spot light at the back of a painted canvas, watch the Truman show it will answer all the questions.

Stay Cheesy.

can i see it?

I've heard that Apollo mission or what was named was the most expensive movie ever made

there's been no point until now to go back. but one of the main reasons for going back now is to mine an isotope called helium3 that is found on the moon but very rare on earth, that they need for nuclear fusion reactions.

very nice photo :)