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07-21-2007, 02:00 PM

When I have read that he was going to apologize I told to me well at least finally he found that he was wrong..

But when I have read that the ICQ logs were not the real ones... well.. I don't know hwo do you say that in english. But my arms falled on teh ground. To say that I felt like if an asteroid landed on my head. Increadible.

Maybe even the screen captures are fakes?!?!

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07-21-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

This is the last post I am going to make in this thread, because obv it has become a flame gts/mark thread at this point and is just becoming ridiculous.

As mentioned before if we're in the wrong we will re-tract our statement and apologize.

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Typical of Mark, who should now be seen as a skidmark on the underpants of this industry. You really are a lying, scummy piece of shit. And your wife is too. Both of which have been proven in this thread...I'm just pointing it out.

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07-21-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

This is the last post I am going to make in this thread, because obv it has become a flame gts/mark thread at this point and is just becoming ridiculous.

As mentioned before if we're in the wrong we will re-tract our statement and apologize.

DH

Yup, everyone is just attacking you for fun Mark.
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07-21-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

If it turns out we are in the wrong I will apologize, when we asked for the site owner's help last night he was very confrontational and everything lead to him. The program owner despite the icq logs he posted (which were altered BTW) was a complete dick to us. All we wanted to do was track down the affiliate/or him that defrauded of us of $16,000 in ad spots he would not help us in the slightest.

Why would someone buy spots with no referral code?

Why out of the hundreds if not thousands of programs out there choose THIS particular one?

Why would the program owner so be difficult and confrontational to deal with? Why would he not jump to help us find the guy if he knew someone was trying to hurt his program/brand.

Look I am a big enough man to apologize if I'm in the wrong, but if you're in our position everything was leading to this guy. He at the end of the day should work with us to find out who the affiliate is that is doing this.

Candyflip, what's up with the "cunt" remark to my wife? How fucking old are you anyways? I'm going to ask the GFY admins to ban you for that, that's just ridiculous.

Franck you sure seem to love to bash our company, any chance you get you just jump on the bandwagon. Can't you spend your time doing more spamming or whatever it is that you do that brings in 2 joins a day? LOL!

DH

Getting scammed sucks. But nothing for nothing, but you should be appreciative that through all of this you found a new way to protect yourself and business from future scams. This won't be the last time it will happen. I'd send WiredGuy a fruit basket or something.

Any new information or proof to shed on the issue?
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07-21-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

We contacted him before anything was on GFY.

DH

Your brief answers aren't helping either. You might include whether or not you gave the guy enough time to respond, and if there was any accusation to your tone with him early-on.

It's none of my business of course, but since you chose to take it to the board it becomes everyone's business, no? Just making sure we're clear on that so no one can later say I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong. :D

I'm really just trying to help sort this out and get at the truth. My next question to you is, can you not see or understand how the guy might get his back up at you even a little? And it does appear that even if you did contact him, it was still before you knew all the facts you know now that you went ahead and hit the boards with this drama.

I know it's $16k, but isn't the most important thing in these instances to figure out who the actual thief is rather than hang the person or company that only appears guilty?

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07-21-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

This is the last post I am going to make in this thread, because obv it has become a flame gts/mark thread at this point and is just becoming ridiculous.

As mentioned before if we're in the wrong we will re-tract our statement and apologize.

DH

How about you make sure you are right before you make such calumniatory statements.
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#277

07-21-2007, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by tmc_producer

well.. I don't know hwo do you say that in english. But my arms falled on teh ground. To say that I felt like if an asteroid landed on my head. Increadible.

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07-21-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by CDSmith

So in looking at the screencaps of the ICQ's that were just posted, it appears DH that you put up the "LOOK OUT FOR THIS THIEVING PROGRAM" threads yesterday, July 20th,

but only contacted the guy today, the 21st.

Is that correct?

If so it's not looking good for your case, or for your question about why the guy has been "confrontational"

I'd be a lot more than confrontational with you if you came at me that way, trust me.

according to the browser language tmc is italien - so it was probably already the 21st. over there while it was still the 20th in canada

i think people should keep in mind that the world does not evolve around their local place.

this thread (http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=753140) shows that it was created half an hour before midnight italien time - and 2 hours later (http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=12791573&postcount=3) "shit hits the fan" - which was exactly 1:17 am.

i mean - honestly - without wanting to get involved - this can't work. especially when also no one in this business is forced to have gfy open 24/7
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07-21-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by commonsense

Getting scammed sucks. But nothing for nothing, but you should be appreciative that through all of this you found a new way to protect yourself and business from future scams. This won't be the last time it will happen. I'd send WiredGuy a fruit basket or something.

Any new information or proof to shed on the issue?

Funny... With a name like "commonsense" you'd think you'd READ THE FUCKING THREAD, IDIOT.
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07-21-2007, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by DrinkingHARDEST

He at the end of the day should work with us to find out who the affiliate is that is doing this.

If the guy did fraud you, you can blast him as much as you like.. But common sense tells you that you better be damn sure what you are going to do.

He was a lot nicer than I would have been, I wouldn't have stood for that for a second and the words that would have followed would show you my true side of being an utter asshole. I would have made your wife cry.

Fraud by this guy or not, you took the wrong approach.. you should learn from this experience but previous history proves that isn't going to happen.

And post jump.. Why bash Franck? He does something, earns at least something.. Enough for me, I don't care if you make $100 or $1m, your just another Webmaster trying to earn a dime. And don't you just own a traffic broker service? I mean, that isn't really the top dog thing in all honesty.

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07-21-2007, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by ThePornBrain

according to the browser language tmc is italien - so it was probably already the 21st. over there while it was still the 20th in canada

i think people should keep in mind that the world does not evolve around their local place.

this thread (http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=753140) shows that it was created half an hour before midnight italien time - and 2 hours later (http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=12791573&postcount=3) "shit hits the fan" - which was exactly 1:17 am.

i mean - honestly - without wanting to get involved - this can't work. especially when also no one in this business is forced to have gfy open 24/7

I don't get your point.

I came back home after midnight and I found the messages on ICQ about the fact that they were searchign for me.
Then we talked on icq.
So?

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07-21-2007, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by sonofsamm

Funny... With a name like "commonsense" you'd think you'd READ THE FUCKING THREAD, IDIOT.

I CAN DO THAT TOO. IF YOU READ THE FUCKING THREAD YOU'D SEE MY COMMENTS ON EVERY GODDAMN PAGE. ALWAYS INTERESTED IN MORE INFORMATION COCKSUCKER
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#283

07-21-2007, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by TheDoc

And don't you just own a traffic broker service? I mean, that isn't really the top dog thing in all honesty.

GTS must be making a small fortune

because they are way overpriced
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07-21-2007, 02:11 PM

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07-21-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by tmc_producer

I don't get your point.

I came back home after midnight and I found the messages on ICQ about the fact that they were searchign for me.
Then we talked on icq.
So?

well, i just wanted to show that if GTS posts around midnight your time on GFY that you should contact them they cannot expect to get an answer within 2 hours.
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