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AGS-17 09-24-2007 03:46 AM

A specific site ghost

georgeyw 09-24-2007 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13132732)
do people still listen to anything you have to say?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Or as Paul would do...

do people listen to things that come out of your mouth still Paul? :winkwink:

SomeCreep 09-24-2007 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by grape (Post 12786666)
if a single site has 7k members is that a lot of members compared to what most sites have?

nah thats a little bit, most paysites have 2,000,000 active members

Lykos 09-24-2007 05:33 AM

thats QUITE A LOT :)

Wizzo 09-24-2007 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by grape (Post 13132825)
Who in their right mind would charge $2 a month

A retarded photographer that thinks like a surfer... :winkwink:

Dejan 09-24-2007 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 13133094)
A retarded photographer that thinks like a surfer... :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bns666 09-24-2007 05:59 AM

ok so which site is it?:)

cheapgallerydesign 09-24-2007 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13132613)
Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content :winkwink:

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.

This could be borderline the most idiotic, nonsensical pile of dog shit I have ever read on GFY. You sir, are a complete idiot.

Paul Markham 09-24-2007 06:54 AM

I said my figures were to illustrate the point, but the morons had to jump in. If I read right a lot of people are scared at losing traffic to sites giving it away, so maybe $2 is an option. I said maybe.

And it's a better option than dreaming about closing down Tube sites.

Who charges $2, PPV do.

Take off the blinkers and think a bit harder.

$2 a month with a limit of 10 videos to view. Make is so the $2 charge can be topped up anytime for another 10 videos. So maybe the eventual spend is $4 on average. Maybe it's $40, depends on how good your site is.

Maybe $30 is the figure chiseled into the rocks floating around some of your heads. It's not floating around the buyers head. And please don't tell me "Traffic" go find the affiliate program on the Tube sites.

BOSS1 09-24-2007 07:23 AM

How much do we really make of each member?

polish_aristocrat 09-24-2007 07:25 AM

Paul Markham, how do you get your traffic if you don't mind?

since you always say it's so easy to get, and I assume you're not talking about buying it...

grape 09-24-2007 07:56 AM

Paul if VOD and PPV was king everyone would be doing it. It's just another rev stream. It will never replace $30-$40 a month paysites.

PPjohn 09-24-2007 08:02 AM

The answer is yes

Penny24Seven 09-24-2007 08:30 AM

we are getting close to 500 :) there are lots of days we have lots of rebills so I know we will make it soon and 90% on our own

commonsense 09-24-2007 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13133297)
I said my figures were to illustrate the point, but the morons had to jump in. If I read right a lot of people are scared at losing traffic to sites giving it away, so maybe $2 is an option. I said maybe.

And it's a better option than dreaming about closing down Tube sites.

Who charges $2, PPV do.

Take off the blinkers and think a bit harder.

$2 a month with a limit of 10 videos to view. Make is so the $2 charge can be topped up anytime for another 10 videos. So maybe the eventual spend is $4 on average. Maybe it's $40, depends on how good your site is.

Maybe $30 is the figure chiseled into the rocks floating around some of your heads. It's not floating around the buyers head. And please don't tell me "Traffic" go find the affiliate program on the Tube sites.


That's a dif business model completely. If you want to sell your overexposed crap for $2, go to town. Many places are giving it away free as lost leader to lure in surfers (on tubes and elsewhere) so you might have troubles even at a $2 price point.


Trying to sell the same filler stuff you're whoring out must really suck. I get the feeling that the content you make means nothing to you and you'd sell it all to anyone who offers you 5 cents. I'm sure that turns off other affiliates from promoting you, I know it does for me.



So as a consolation, I got these for you to grasp at......

http://www.kidstar.com/kidstar/kidst...y%20Straws.JPG

Only used once :winkwink:

DollarKing 09-24-2007 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 12786845)
We have a little over 2000 members and just opened at the end of April. I'm REAL happy about that. I don't have any trials, just full recurring.

Thats good going especially for a new paysite how many chargebacks have you had since opening it and also what site is it in reference too?
What method of gaining traffic to it has helped it grow quite fast?

NinjaSteve 09-24-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 13132299)
we have 93,232 active members :thumbsup

I'm sorry for signing up 93,231 times :(

AK 09-24-2007 10:57 AM

post your site and your program, you might increase your member base..

teomaxxx 09-24-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 12786845)
We have a little over 2000 members and just opened at the end of April. I'm REAL happy about that. I don't have any trials, just full recurring.

with Claudia Marie site? It looks good, but with better tour, I am sure it would kick ass. some great content you have there.

dig420 09-24-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13133297)
I said my figures were to illustrate the point, but the morons had to jump in. If I read right a lot of people are scared at losing traffic to sites giving it away, so maybe $2 is an option. I said maybe.

And it's a better option than dreaming about closing down Tube sites.

Who charges $2, PPV do.

Take off the blinkers and think a bit harder.

$2 a month with a limit of 10 videos to view. Make is so the $2 charge can be topped up anytime for another 10 videos. So maybe the eventual spend is $4 on average. Maybe it's $40, depends on how good your site is.

Maybe $30 is the figure chiseled into the rocks floating around some of your heads. It's not floating around the buyers head. And please don't tell me "Traffic" go find the affiliate program on the Tube sites.

ummm.... hate to break it to you, but they're not the morons.

Cuteshooter 09-24-2007 11:55 AM

traffic is 99% of it
 
It seems like if your ratios are pretty constant, then it's just a matter of getting the targeted traffic from the right sources..


With 7000 members I'd expect to see pics of at least the Maserati coupe.

tranza 09-24-2007 11:56 AM

Who bumped this??

DollarKing 09-24-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 13134552)
with Claudia Marie site? It looks good, but with better tour, I am sure it would kick ass. some great content you have there.

That site is part of iocash i am not familiar with them.

Christina Muller 09-24-2007 02:07 PM

I know of a fetish site that has approx 40,000+ members paying $40 a month......What site? actually they have a low profile on gfy...but if you look around at a few big fetish sites and see who offers high quality inhouse content and who recently made a huge purchase it shouldnt be so hard to figure out who it is :thumbsup

DollarKing 09-24-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13135634)
I know of a fetish site that has approx 40,000+ members paying $40 a month......What site? actually they have a low profile on gfy...but if you look around at a few big fetish sites and see who offers high quality inhouse content and who recently made a huge purchase it shouldnt be so hard to figure out who it is :thumbsup

So who's worked it out yet?

gandalfuy 09-24-2007 03:34 PM

if they rebill is a lot then!

Bake 09-24-2007 03:44 PM

A real thread with a good question and even some honest answers
7k of members at $30 a month recuring more than 98% of GFY would kill for those numbers.

DollarKing 09-24-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bake (Post 13136157)
A real thread with a good question and even some honest answers
7k of members at $30 a month recuring more than 98% of GFY would kill for those numbers.

That is if you take everything people write on boards at face value of course!

Eman - PG 09-24-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13135634)
I know of a fetish site that has approx 40,000+ members paying $40 a month......What site? actually they have a low profile on gfy...but if you look around at a few big fetish sites and see who offers high quality inhouse content and who recently made a huge purchase it shouldnt be so hard to figure out who it is :thumbsup

Kink.com ?

Sounds feasable. Started in 1997. Quality sites. Niched. Exclusive content. Not much competition in the value/niche/quality area.

grape 09-25-2007 03:28 PM

Has to be kink.com in fetish. There is no one else.

Elli 09-25-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by grape (Post 13142216)
Has to be kink.com in fetish. There is no one else.

Hm, not so sure about that.

grape 09-25-2007 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Elli (Post 13142272)
Hm, not so sure about that.

who else then

Christina Muller 09-25-2007 04:16 PM

yes its Kink.Com ,I dont think they mind I say who it is ,its a testament of thier hard work,investment and quality ..

DollarKing 09-25-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13142595)
yes its Kink.Com ,I dont think they mind I say who it is ,its a testament of thier hard work,investment and quality ..

And how would you know exactly ?

GITZINGER 09-25-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13132613)
Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content :winkwink:

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.

That just might be the dumbest bit of information ever given on GFY.

ladida 09-25-2007 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13135634)
I know of a fetish site that has approx 40,000+ members paying $40 a month......What site? actually they have a low profile on gfy...but if you look around at a few big fetish sites and see who offers high quality inhouse content and who recently made a huge purchase it shouldnt be so hard to figure out who it is :thumbsup

Kink has ALOT more members then 40k, neither of their sites alone has 40k tho, your info is flawed.

Christina Muller 09-25-2007 08:22 PM

DollarKing.....I can show you the proof....but take it at face value or dismiss it !

It was a reply ,not a commerical/source/In depth disclosure of someones business.

Christina Muller 09-25-2007 08:29 PM

Ladida..Quote;
Kink has ALOT more members then 40k, neither of their sites alone has 40k tho, your info is flawed.


Ladida....Dont be a smart ass put up your icq and lets see how smart you are !

Im waiting :1orglaugh

ladida 09-26-2007 02:10 AM

Give me an email, i don't have icq, but you missed the number by around 3 times.

Paul Markham 09-26-2007 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 13133835)
That's a dif business model completely. If you want to sell your overexposed crap for $2, go to town. Many places are giving it away free as lost leader to lure in surfers (on tubes and elsewhere) so you might have troubles even at a $2 price point.

Trying to sell the same filler stuff you're whoring out must really suck. I get the feeling that the content you make means nothing to you and you'd sell it all to anyone who offers you 5 cents. I'm sure that turns off other affiliates from promoting you, I know it does for me.

Get a calculator and work out how many times we have to sell a scene to get it in front of 10% of Teen paysites members. Pretty awesome sales don't you agree?

Or are you telling everyone we sell a scene to 10 clients, who can't put it on TGPs, and that's enough to saturate the scene. With 2,000 teen paysites the notion that content can be so easily saturated is foolish.

Unless we sell it 200 times. 200 x $40 = $8,000 a scene. :thumbsup

Can anyone explain how content gets "over exposed" in a major niche? It's on lots of great sites that have lots of members who see it. Must be good content that members like.

It's all over the place on free sites. This applies to Exclusive content and is about the number of affiliates whoring it.

It's crap over exposed content that will never sell on a site. So how is it getting over exposed?

As for the example of $2 sites, it was an example of making more money selling for less. Seems to many have never heard of Kay Mart and Woolworth or Video Box. :1orglaugh


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