And that's enough of this...

no body ever said anything about old bands WTF are you talking about???

you are a retard

and for the record the MAJORITY of rapper do not talk about drugs etc etc stop watching O- Riely factor

and also for the record... justas many old rock bands talk about ... drugs... guns ... suicude... sex

etc

you must be death

or like I said just plain retarded

And I agree 100% with you. But where are they today? They are very few. Thats why I can hardly stand rap these days. It's bullshit and completely degrading. I am not a racist person at all. I have many black friends, my family has many black friends. But it is hard to understand how african-americans in the US can complain about discrimination when they are constantly talking about selling drugs, pimping hos and busting caps in their music. Of course these idiots dont represent the ENTIRE black community, but I would be ashamed if I was a black man and saw these fools showing us off like that.

We were talking about music.

Sticky at least I can tell that you listen to music...

some of the clowns in this thread think rap and hip-hop the same thing

I cant wait to see what Plies numbers are after the LP drops

Yes they do. Stop kidding yourself.

ok first off fuckwit, his name is fitty......

second off, keep hatin, he will still make more money than you....


on a final note......

my dick is hard....i think ill go masturbate

you are only the second person to make my ignore list.. you are so stupid I cant even read your post

goodbye

My favorite new hip hop group from FL is Caveman Theory:2 cents:

http://www.myspace.com/cavemantheory :pimp
http://www.officialcavemen.com/

damn im listening to them now

good music man.. tight shit thanks for the heads up

damnnnnn man I cant believe these dudes are not major yet

crazy

they just picked up a new fan:thumbsup

Caveman Theory - Cracker Jack Living
http://www.zshare.net/audio/2176890a423038/

And full mixtape (Link from group)
http://www.officialcavemen.com/pics/mixtape-medium.jpg

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IYKNZECF

Thanks man... you just helped these dudes out in a big way:thumbsup

This is my favorite track from their LP The Stone Quartet:

Caveman Theory - Hard Times

The DJ for the group put up all these links himself so there's no bootlegging..

Plies just dropped shawty feat t-pain. Song is storming up the charts right now. To get a 6 figure sponsorship just from 1 single before the album drops is amazing imo.

aw those 2 songs arnt that bad

I found a smaller version of the Caveman Theory mixtape...22 tracks,mp3...for those who wanna check out one of the best mixtapes of teh year without having to download the 650mb version in wav files that i posted ystday

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xuc9bc

i remember they said the same about trick daddy a couple of years ago... time proved they were wrong.

anyway, personally im on the look out for yukmouths new album... but just like detox its getting pushed back all the time, fucking annoying.

YOu heard Numskull's new mixtape? I read an interview where he said he's a massive alcoholic..drinks 5+ 40oz a day or somethin.
Has a Luniz reunion track.

Numskull of Da Luniz - Numworld
17. For One Night (Luniz Reunion Song) Ft. Yukmouth & J-Bo :pimp:thumbsup

50 is wack arnolds.

Of course the new album is gonna suck, it's right in line with the rest of his shit. He's a gaylord.

50 is smart. Whether or not you like his music is one thing but he's a smart man. As someone stated before he's worth 500 million U.S. dollars. 400 million of that came from Vitamin Water in which he bought 10% stock a couple of years back. They recently sold and he made 400 million. That's what you call a good business move. If a white man was to do that he'd be a genius. But since it's 50 and he's a rapper then he's still an idiot. Aside from that, he was already worth over 100 mill in which he earned himself, doing something he loves. You may not like his music or image, but he's no dummy. People tend to hate on things they cannot understand or relate to. Dont hate the player, hate the game. The players change but the game stays the same. While you guys sit here posting on how much of a fucking idiot he is, he's probably sitting in a business meeting right now working on his next 100 million while we're over here trying to get people to click on a fucking sig. GET REAL!!!

You cant please everybody so you should focus on pleasing yourself and the ones you love. Quoted from myself~

As far as pliers, he does suck. He sounds good because the south is hot right now but in the grand scheme of things, he's not that good. He's got a decent voice and i'm sure he'll have a good songs. Not hits but good songs. He wont have more than 3 or 4 i guarantee that. If you want to hear a REAL new Hip Hop artist with lyrics and style, check Joell Ortiz. That cat is one of the more lyrically enhanced new M.C.'s. You know what sucks for Joell, he's not dancing around trying to cater to the women so he's not going to be a super star. Same thing goes for Jadakiss. The whole game is fucked. Now if you make a song with a club beat, talk about how many people you will murder, and call a woman a bitch a few times, your record will sell. If you put out something with a message on that same beat, it will not sell because people dont want to hear that shit. It's the way of the world. Jay Z said in one of his songs "Honestly i wanted to ryhme like common sense, but i did 10 mill and i aint been ryhmin like common since". He realized what he had to do in order to make money. When it really comes down to it, all of these artist are human and have families to feed just like we do. As you're walking through this path of life and doing what you have to do to survive, you have decisions to make. You can either listen to what all the haters say and try to market a product in which there is no market for, or you come up with something that can compete with the current market and make that money. Next thing you know, you've made a million, your family can eat. Most of you on this board have no clue what a lot of these rappers backgrounds are. You sit here on your high horse and point fingers as if thou art greater. Until you've lived the roaches and rats, until you've lived in a home where mom may be ill and you have 3 siblings and no father around, dont judge people. Try coming up in a house where mom can't work for whatever reason yet there are 4 kids and no spouse. You have to drop out of school in order to get a job to support the family as you are the oldest. I know a guy who shot a man for beating his mother and ended up in jail. When he got out, he couldn't find a decent job as no one wants to hire an ex-con. So then what, there are liquor stores to be robbed, purses to be snatched. There are drugs to be sold and people who WILL buy them. So, they sell drugs in order to get buy. If they do that, then they're one of those "fucking drug dealers" right? I'm willing to bet that over 80% of the people on this message board smoke weed and they buy it from someone. That person that you buy from, believe it or not, he's a drug dealer. but since it's only weed then it's cool right? Or since he supplies your product then it's cool right? Next time you see him ask him if he does it for fun or is it for the money. 99% of people who sell drugs DO NOT enjoy doing that shit. They do it because they have to. So before you are so quick to judge someone, think about where they may have come from and why they talk about the things they do. I'm not saying i condone all of these actions but i truly do understand. If they grew up on Yatch's and summer cottages in the Hamptons then they would probably talk about it. but they didn't and who wants to hear that shit anyway unless it's coming from Jay Z. Controversy sells, violence sells, sex sells, so why not take advantage?


Nothing is worse than a hater. A person who hates usually has less than the person they are hating on so it's really jealousy which boils down to insecurity. Dont Be A Hater.

Nico- T you just blew me away talking about yukmouth,,, I would have never thought the people on GFY would know who that was

MAJOR MAJOR PROPS!!!:pimp:thumbsup

a six figure sponsorship for an artist who has yet to drop an LP is unheard of for any genre of music

...it just dosent happen

They know this kid is going to take over...fast

Couldnt have said it better myself!! :thumbsup:thumbsup

real men listen to jedi mind

T-Pain will outsell Plies 10-1 --- Sprint got T-Pain cheap by promoting Plies
I went to school for Music Business Admin, so here's a basic breakdown on how he's gettin paid off that deal:2 cents:

1/4 of the 6 figures goes to Producer
1/4 to manager/promoter/etc
1/4 to T-Pain/Plies each
on top of all the FREE Promo concerts/ringtones/etc Plies is Contracted to do now, that he won't see a dime from...he'd probably have been better off doin his own thing, then a corporate sponsorship where he loses control of his shit.

#1 reason i'm not feelin Plies is probably cause i don't like artists who shoot at their audiences..lol

"Plies was arrested on July 2, 2006 for illegal gun possession while two members of his entourage were charged with attempted murder after a shooting broke out at 238 West Nightclub in Gainesville, Florida. Plies was performing a concert when he was informed that his show would be cut 15 minutes short in order to give time for Lil' Boosie Bad Azz to perform right after. In response, Plies' entourage started to fire at the crowd, resulting in the injury of 5 people with non-life threatening wounds. Shortly after, Plies was released after paying $10,000 bail."

I like RAP quite a lot, but those last songs of his sucks ass!!

That's just dumb.

So then nobody is allowed to dislike his music just because he's made good business moves? I think his music sucks and his songs are lame, that doesn't make me a hater, it just means I don't like it. People can still have opinions with being classified as haters, right? :2 cents:

50's new CD is gonna be MASSIVE ! if it's "good" or not is based on personal opinion .....like all music. One thing is for sure there are not too many people in the music business right now that have the formula for a hit down more then Curtis. He's a hit machine .....from the beat to the hook ....he knows exactly what the guys want pump in their rides and what the chicks want to get nasty with in the Clubs. Package all that up with a super catchy hook that he even sings on for the radio play.

He's a master at the rap game right now ! period He could teach a class on " how to make a Hit " and " Hustling 101 "
50 , Em and Dre are a Super Power ....they have the midas touch.
put those 3 together and you can be sure they are gonna make some pretty hot shit.

Music is personal taste ....which means just cause you don't like it does not mean it's shit ! LOL :thumbsup

He's the one that alot of people want to fail for many reasons ....mostly jealousy. Don't count on him failing any time soon though. Probably won't happen ....

nice gonna check that one out... and yea hes the alcoholic & yuks the smoker, in some tracks they rap about it too hehe..

yea hes def one of my favourite rappers... his album 'thug lord: the new testament' is in my all time top 3 favourite rap albums :thumbsup

Really? The Luniz were popular enough that I figured everyone who listened to hiphop in the mid to late 90's knew who he was.

Definitely. I personally think his latest stuff sucks too. I do respect his business sense though.