www.rawpasswords.com - You have to be FUCKING kidding me

**Xplicit** · 07-13-2007, 08:25 PM

Just another PW site. Just make sure you have the right tools in place and they can't cause much damage.

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 07-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by Xplicit

Just another PW site. Just make sure you have the right tools in place and they can't cause much damage.

Yeah taking care of it now.

Nice to see the realitycash sites with their banners on there

**Aussie Rebel** · 07-13-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by Batts

Found my members area on there today.

Take a look at some of the banners on this site - What a FUCKING JOKE

www.rawpasswords.com

Sorry to say Batts but password sites and torrents sites are now accepted in the adult industry, it's now catch and kill your own

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 07-13-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Sorry to say Batts but password sites and torrents sites are now accepted in the adult industry, it's now catch and kill your own

Yeah it seems so.

After seeing that site today and whats on there i have lost alot of respect for alot of people.

**Aussie Rebel** · 07-13-2007, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Batts

Yeah it seems so.

After seeing that site today and whats on there i have lost alot of respect for alot of people.

Blame the sponsors for letting it happen mate, they are the ones paying there bills

**dissipate** · 07-13-2007, 08:36 PM

welcome to the interwebz

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 07-13-2007, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Blame the sponsors for letting it happen mate, they are the ones paying there bills

No wonder the industry is turning to shit.

**CuriousToyBoy** · 07-13-2007, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Batts

Yeah it seems so.

After seeing that site today and whats on there i have lost alot of respect for alot of people.

Why don't you call them and tell them so?

Opps. Better stick with posting on GFY, phones and you, well, you know, FRAUGHT with danger and someone would probably get hurt.

**siccmade** · 07-13-2007, 10:40 PM

How is it the sponsors fault? When you sign up for a program you can promote right away. I imagine they probably have thousands of affiliates... they can't check every single website manually that a click comes from...

**FakeNick** · 07-13-2007, 10:41 PM

thanks for the free porn links

**Red Ezra** · 07-13-2007, 10:47 PM

thanks for the post - I sent a email to my friend's listed there.

**sweethotkayla** · 07-13-2007, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by CuriousToyBoy

Why don't you call them and tell them so?

Opps. Better stick with posting on GFY, phones and you, well, you know, FRAUGHT with danger and someone would probably get hurt.

**V_RocKs** · 07-13-2007, 10:52 PM

Create a script to check for where the surfers are coming from. If they come from *password* or *passes* or *torrent*, etc... flag the account... Then a human just need to check 10 accounts per day and can the offenders. Whitelist the ok ones...

Would take a programmer about 10 minutes and an employee about 1 hour a week.

**FakeNick** · 07-13-2007, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Create a script to check for where the surfers are coming from. If they come from *password* or *passes* or *torrent*, etc... flag the account... Then a human just need to check 10 accounts per day and can the offenders. Whitelist the ok ones...

Would take a programmer about 10 minutes and an employee about 1 hour a week.

like this you mean

PHP Code:

<? 

// Redirect "password" traffic 

$refer_full_path = "$HTTP_REFERER"."$PATH_INFO"; 

if(( preg_match("/pass/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/passes/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/password/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/passwords/i", $refer_full_path))) {_ 


header("Location: $refer_full_path"); 
exit;_ 
} 

?>

PHP Code:

<? 
$words=array("pass","passes","password","passwords"); 
for($i=0;$i<count($words);$i++){ 
if(eregi($words[$i],$HTTP_REFERER)){ 
header("Location: http://www.adultfriendfinder.com"); 
} 
} 
?>

**Finike** · 07-13-2007, 11:01 PM

Get Strongbox or another tool

**corbu** · 07-14-2007, 03:19 AM

fucking cocksuckers!

**Dirty Dane** · 07-14-2007, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Blame the sponsors for letting it happen mate, they are the ones paying there bills

Maybe the sponsors don't know. Yet.

**Dennis69** · 07-14-2007, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by Finike

Get Strongbox or another tool

Yep Strongbox rocks against this kind of BS!

It's amazing whats sponsors are willing to cut your throat over for the almighty dollar these days

**Linkster** · 07-14-2007, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by siccmade

How is it the sponsors fault? . I imagine they probably have thousands of affiliates... they can't check every single website manually that a click comes from...

They better be checking or they are not gonna be a sponsor very long

**Verbal** · 07-14-2007, 05:17 AM

lol ... love this at bottom of page:

WEBMASTERS!

If you see your site listed here, and it bothers you,
send us a message (wth the pass request button on the bottom), and we will remove it!

**Scootermuze** · 07-14-2007, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Create a script to check for where the surfers are coming from. If they come from *password* or *passes* or *torrent*, etc... flag the account... Then a human just need to check 10 accounts per day and can the offenders. Whitelist the ok ones...

Would take a programmer about 10 minutes and an employee about 1 hour a week.

Too many would wise up to that and start sending the traffic to a, "Click here to continue" type of page on their own domain..

If they're making money from those sites, they'll figure out a way to keep doing it..

**Penny24Seven** · 07-14-2007, 05:39 AM

you really think program owners check every since link that sends them traffic? Some people are so fucking stupid. You should be contacting them and telling them so they will cancel their account.

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 07-14-2007, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by Hookers and School Girls

you really think program owners check every since link that sends them traffic? Some people are so fucking stupid. You should be contacting them and telling them so they will cancel their account.

Did i say that they all check every link.

**Roald** · 07-14-2007, 05:45 AM

setup a fake memberarea with only minimal access to content and leak the password to the site. Did you know some mayor sponsors actually provide access themselfs?

PW sites have always been around and I don't think they are a real treat at all if you have the proper protection for it.

**Mr.Right - Banned For Life** · 07-14-2007, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by QuaShe

setup a fake memberarea with only minimal access to content and leak the password to the site. Did you know some mayor sponsors actually provide access themselfs?

PW sites have always been around and I don't think they are a real treat at all if you have the proper protection for it.

Fantastic Idea.

**CuriousToyBoy** · 07-14-2007, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by Batts

Did i say that they all check every link.

Did you also say you would meet us and call us back?

Just checking because I want to be sure that what you say you can held to.

**quantum-x** · 07-14-2007, 05:58 AM

You've obviously never heard of ultrapasswords ;)

**Basic_man** · 07-14-2007, 06:05 AM

Originally posted by V_RocKs

Create a script to check for where the surfers are coming from. If they come from *password* or *passes* or *torrent*, etc... flag the account... Then a human just need to check 10 accounts per day and can the offenders. Whitelist the ok ones...

Would take a programmer about 10 minutes and an employee about 1 hour a week.

HERE WE GO!

**LiveDose** · 07-14-2007, 06:06 AM

You can always manipulate that traffic.

**NemesisEnforcer** · 07-14-2007, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Sorry to say Batts but password sites and torrents sites are now accepted in the adult industry, it's now catch and kill your own

Password sites have been accepted since the beginning the difference today is that torrent sites may be replacing some of the binary newsgroups.

I often see folks asking sponsors to take responsibility and not support these sites but webmasters should also be asked not to support these sites as well. It has always been a practice for some webmasters to post their own passwords on password sites as well as dump watermarked content in newsgroups to build traffic. When I talk to some of these webmasters their response is that sales jump by as much as 20% by posting a password and monitoring it.

I was on a content shoot last month and one of the webmasters asked us to take time out to shoot some material for TGPs and torrent sites. Exclusive material was shot for posting on torrent sites and newsgroups.

Again, my point is that some webmasters are contributing to or taking advantage of the traffic generated by password and torrent sites.

**NemesisEnforcer** · 07-14-2007, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by LiveDose

You can always manipulate that traffic.

**fris** · 07-14-2007, 07:30 AM

i still think each webmaster should be hand approved.

**Blue Player** · 07-14-2007, 07:50 AM

Proxy Pass all the way.

**swampthing** · 07-14-2007, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by Batts

No wonder the industry is turning to shit.

yes, there is way too much hypocrisy going on in the industry.

but its all about that mighty dollar isnt it?

lets just throw ethics and honesty out the window.

makes me sick.

**swampthing** · 07-14-2007, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Aussie Rebel

Blame the sponsors for letting it happen mate, they are the ones paying there bills

everyone is too afraid to do anything about it.

the industry is killing itself, by allowing shit like this to continue.

Its not just the sponsors that accept this kind of activity, its everyone, for not taking a stand and doing something about it.

**DaddyHalbucks** · 07-14-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally posted by swampthing

yes, there is way too much hypocrisy going on in the industry.

but its all about that mighty dollar isnt it?

lets just throw ethics and honesty out the window.

makes me sick.

I know, the lack of ethics in online porn is truly appalling.

**donkevlar** · 07-14-2007, 09:59 AM

WTF is the difference between a free password that will work for a few days and a FREE TRIAL?

**TeenCat** · 07-14-2007, 10:04 AM

pennywize or similar ip checking script, when more than two people are on page in one moment, redirect them to your free tour. once in period send some fake logins all around so people will be sending to the tour and you can have nice advertisement from the password sites ;)

**TeenCat** · 07-14-2007, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by TeenCat

fake logins

better make logins as test:test username:password so every stupid wordlist have it so hackers will be happy they found a login then free traffic to come ;)

**psili** · 07-14-2007, 10:21 AM

I applaud programs that still use basic authentication as it shows how ahead the online adult industry really is. I mean, seriously, session based authentication and proper content protection is so old school, who the fuck would want to use that?

**geeknik** · 07-14-2007, 10:40 AM

Do you really think that every sponsor in existence has the time and the resources to check EVERY site sending them traffic? The only time I could see them checking on a site is if someone reports it to them. I'm sure they have better things to do then hire a team of people to scour the web for their shit. I know I'd rather have them paying me to send them sales.

**swampthing** · 07-14-2007, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by geeknik

Do you really think that every sponsor in existence has the time and the resources to check EVERY site sending them traffic? The only time I could see them checking on a site is if someone reports it to them. I'm sure they have better things to do then hire a team of people to scour the web for their shit. I know I'd rather have them paying me to send them sales.

You honestly think they dont know where there traffic is coming from?

Lets just say your right. Then how about after they are told and do nothing about it? They will stand by your first sentence, as a defense to make themselves look good and save face.

**GreyWolf** · 07-14-2007, 11:50 AM

Sadly, it always was necessary to have protection in place and have it monitored daily to block the usual alleged "members" who seem to live in Canada, Italy, US, UK, Poland and Outer Mongolia - all at the same time

It's a long time since I actually looked at a members area (our own are automatically updated daily), but had a scan thru some on that pass sharing list.....

It is generally *stunning* to see how little content is being offered - and the poor presentation of that content. Is this the pathetic level the "adult entertainment" industry has reached??? It's total crap!!

If the paysite operators on that list want me as a member, the deal is this - send me $250 for every hour I'd have to tolerate browsing their members areas. These fees can go towards shrink costs for recovery of depression after browsing "adult entertainment" member areas.

Suppose this is no more than a reflection of the total amateurs and ex-McDonald's employees who could afford a computer and who enter this business thinking they are "webmasters" - pathetic!!!

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**Aussie Rebel** · 07-16-2007, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by swampthing

everyone is too afraid to do anything about it.

the industry is killing itself, by allowing shit like this to continue.

Its not just the sponsors that accept this kind of activity, its everyone, for not taking a stand and doing something about it.

Exactly

**Nathan** · 07-16-2007, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by FakeNick

like this you mean

PHP Code:

<? 

// Redirect "password" traffic 

$refer_full_path = "$HTTP_REFERER"."$PATH_INFO"; 

if(( preg_match("/pass/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/passes/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/password/i", $refer_full_path)) || 
( preg_match("/passwords/i", $refer_full_path))) {_ 


header("Location: $refer_full_path"); 
exit;_ 
} 

?>

PHP Code:

<? 
$words=array("pass","passes","password","passwords"); 
for($i=0;$i<count($words);$i++){ 
if(eregi($words[$i],$HTTP_REFERER)){ 
header("Location: http://www.adultfriendfinder.com"); 
} 
} 
?>

Oh god...

1) REGISTER GLOBALS?!?!?! You insane?
2) Performance wise eregi or preg_match are extremely bad for this kind of stuff, use strpos for it, also checking for "pass" will match "passes" and "password" and "passwords" so why even check for "passes", "password", "passwords" after that?! No point.
3) In your 2nd example, add an exit after the header(); so it stops searching on a match...

**raymor** · 07-16-2007, 01:05 PM

I would say that the sponsors have a responsibility to cut off these affiliates when you notify
them of the problem. Even if they checked each affiliate's site before activating them the
bad guys would just put the banner on a legit looking site for one day, then switch it after
the site is approved. I don't see any way that could work.

Anyway Strongbox will take care fo the password traders for you.

Checking the referer can be a good idea in some circumstances, but you have to be
careful with that. There are some pitfulls and certain sites that you need to specifcally
allow. Also it only works if either you put it on every page, or rely on the fact that the
password sites won't figure out they can link to some page other than your main page.
Unless of course you're using Strongbox, in which case an intelligent referrer check
is one check done during the log in process.

**tranza** · 07-16-2007, 01:13 PM

That's fucked up....

**Violetta** · 07-16-2007, 01:53 PM

If you see your site listed here, and it bothers you,
send us a message (wth the pass request button on the bottom), and we will remove it!

www.rawpasswords.com - You have to be FUCKING kidding me

www.rawpasswords.com - You have to be FUCKING kidding me

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