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noone1 07-12-2007 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Daruma (Post 12745713)
I know that for certain rural areas its really difficult - I am just meaning to give people a perspective - especially people that live in the cities in the US - which is in the hundreds of millions - they need to gain some perspective of the world and how its possible and in fact enjoyable to take public transportation..

My city has 100K people and public transit wouldn't even work there. It's just too spread out. I can't take a bus anywhere and get more than one thing done. Let alone in a reasonable amount of time. We don't have these downtowns. 100K people and no downtown.

The people in citites in Europe with 100K people aren't much different in terms of who has a means of transportation. They just don't have to use them as much because everything can be done in one area. They all drive to the downtown, but then just park the car and walk. They also only live 5 minutes away from the downtown. I was with friends in their cities (~130K people) and we had to take their cars to the downtown. Once we were there though, we could do everything and just walked.

I can do that too, the only problem is that the closest downtown is 30 minutes away by car on the expressway going 70-80 mph.

The only places that public transit really shines are in major metropolitian areas like Paris. The the rail systems are great as well.

Violetta 07-12-2007 07:26 AM

where the fuck is norway in that list? It would blow the roof of those bars!

GatorB 07-12-2007 07:30 AM

Well you do realize that Canada does use as much oil per capita as the US. So it's not like they are exactly conserving either.

noone1 07-12-2007 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12745775)
A) Russia has HALF the population of the US and everyone is poor.

This plays a large role as well. I'm pretty sure they would be using a hell of a lot more if they could afford it.

PaulB IYP 07-12-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12745838)
Well you do realize that Canada does use as much oil per capita as the US. So it's not like they are exactly conserving either.

no doubt....our country is much larger too so we need to get around even more in our Escalades and Navigators

Brad 07-12-2007 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12745838)
Well you do realize that Canada does use as much oil per capita as the US. So it's not like they are exactly conserving either.

I'm with Romeo on this one...take a look at a world map and see how big Canada is compared to the US.

The Truth Hurts 07-12-2007 08:21 AM

just some useless stats..

oil per capita...

#17 United States: 68.838 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl
#18 Canada: 68.703 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl

and canada ain't really that much bigger..

1 Russia 17,075,200 km2
2 Canada 9,984,670 km2
3 United States 9,826,630 km2
4 China 9,596,960 km2

justsexxx 07-12-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12745572)
I and 3 of my neighbors all have v12 engines. They are LOUD! :thumbsup Sucks gas like a fat 10 year old sucking chocolate milk through a straw inbetween bites of his big mac. :thumbsup

wow you are cool!

GatorB 07-12-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Adult Lounge - Brad (Post 12746051)
I'm with Romeo on this one...take a look at a world map and see how big Canada is compared to the US.

WTF does that have to do with anything? Incidently they are about the same size.

GatorB 07-12-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 12746097)
just some useless stats..

oil per capita...

#17 United States: 68.838 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl
#18 Canada: 68.703 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl

and canada ain't really that much bigger..

1 Russia 17,075,200 km2
2 Canada 9,984,670 km2
3 United States 9,826,630 km2
4 China 9,596,960 km2

So your stats say we are 17th in useage per person and Canada uses as much as us. And your point was?

The Truth Hurts 07-12-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12746226)
And your point was?

i think my point was.."and canada ain't really that much bigger.."
as was implied but the two posts right before mine.

Try paying attention.

RawAlex 07-12-2007 08:53 AM

Yup, this is one of those "relevant facts were not included".

Size of country. Cars per 100,000 people. Overall population. Fuel use per person per year.

Very important one: Fuel use per person per year for the last 10 years. China alone has had massive increases in fuel consumption in the last 10 years.

The US has issues, that is for sure, most of which have to do with things like SUVs, suburbia, and the almost total lack of public transit use by anyone outside of the lowest financial classes.

Brad 07-12-2007 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 12746097)
just some useless stats..

oil per capita...

#17 United States: 68.838 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl
#18 Canada: 68.703 bbl/day per 1,000 peopl

and canada ain't really that much bigger..

1 Russia 17,075,200 km2
2 Canada 9,984,670 km2
3 United States 9,826,630 km2
4 China 9,596,960 km2

Word. You have also to take into consideration that the area of the US includes place like Alaska and the Virgin Islands which throw the stats off a little bit. I note this because Alaska is not as densely populated as the rest of the US in general and therefor really only serves to increase the amount of land you have while not housing many people in comparison to almost all of the other states (it ranks 47th while being the biggest in area).

On a per capita basis, I am not surprised in the slightest that Canada and the US use roughly the same amount of oil (unless you add in the DoD into the US stats) because we have similar setups. My point that Canada is large was made so people understand why we use cars if we live outside of the city.

And on a side note, I was never saying Canada was the largest country in the world. Everyone know Russia is the biggest by a long shot.:thumbsup

pornguy 07-12-2007 09:58 AM

The price to fll a Honda civic in mexico is WRONG.

I am just now paying a little over that to fill my truck.

woj 07-12-2007 10:46 AM

That statistic is a little misleading, if you look at per capita gas use, US is in the same ballpark as other industrialized nations...

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/en...ion-per-capita

M0nk 07-12-2007 11:47 AM

american people should stop huffing gasoline!

montel 07-13-2007 12:26 AM

hmm so this LOL?

Bdiddy 07-13-2007 12:36 AM

pretty sad


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