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  • swampthing
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    • Mar 2007
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    #1

    how legal is this shit?? stupid sob!!!

    petiteteenager dot com

    this guy has got galleries up on his site called "REALMIX"

    look for the galleries that say "realmix"

    They are amateur pictures of regular girls. These are not industry girls.

    Now you cannot tell me this son of a bitch, has rights to use these pics.
    If your program is sponsoring this guy, you might want to check it out and make your own judgment. You probably dont want your program to be associated with this individual. Some of these pics he is posting look pretty illegal to me.

    Last edited by swampthing; 07-11-2007, 11:50 PM.
  • notabook
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    • Apr 2006
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    #2
    I don't think Greg has anything to worry about.

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    • Steve Awesome
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      • Jan 2007
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      #3
      I assume you were attempting to link to this?
      http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix16/

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      • swampthing
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        #4
        Originally posted by Steve Awesome
        I assume you were attempting to link to this?
        didnt want to link to it, But yes. Thats exactly what I'm talking about.

        Don't tell me all that shit is legal, because I know fucking better.

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        • swampthing
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          • Mar 2007
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          #5
          Originally posted by notabook
          I don't think Greg has anything to worry about.
          and why and how is that? do tell.

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          • Big_D
            CRAZY MOFUKKA
            • Jun 2006
            • 3296

            #6
            looks pretty ok to me, just another teen tgp

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            • swampthing
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              #7
              Originally posted by Big_D
              looks pretty ok to me, just another teen tgp
              bullshit.

              How in the fuck can you say that?

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              • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                • Jul 2006
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                #8
                The domain name looks shady, however the "actors" seem to be 18+ ...

                The required legal 2257 record is missing with the "custodian of records" info... This guy should be investigated...

                Later,

                .
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                • RawAlex
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9465

                  #9
                  Random Pics

                  There are no adds on this page, but if you want to help us out- find a cute girl at Fling.

                  Every time you do, we get a little $. Thanks & enjoy! =P
                  Interesting selling technique.

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                  • swampthing
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                    • Mar 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Balalsubturfyooj
                    The domain name looks shady, however the "actors" seem to be 18+ ...

                    The required legal 2257 record is missing with the "custodian of records" info... This guy should be investigated...

                    Later,

                    .
                    how can you say they seem to be over 18? seriously. These are not industry girls, where there is an ability to prove the age.

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                    • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                      #11
                      Hi swampthing

                      Originally posted by swampthing
                      how can you say they seem to be over 18? seriously. These are not industry girls, where there is an ability to prove the age.
                      I have looked at the girls... thats why I said they seem to be 18+, however I did say that this guy should be investigated because he is missing the required legal 2257 record... where you would find the "custodian of records"... such proves the ages of the "actors"...

                      I am not siding with this guy swampthing...

                      Later,
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                      • rowan
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                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        From what I can remember the webmaster is Australian, so 2257 regs don't strictly apply to him. There are local regs to follow but none of the images look to be sexually explicit (I just quickly skimmed them)

                        However, using a likeness for commercial purposes without a signed release is definitely not legal.

                        There's also copyright violation to consider.

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                        • stev0
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by swampthing
                          how can you say they seem to be over 18? seriously. These are not industry girls, where there is an ability to prove the age.
                          They don't look under 18...

                          If you're that concerned contact the webmaster, don't start a witch hunt trying to trash peoples reputations without any proof.

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                          • teg0
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                            #14
                            I enjoy those types of galleries

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                            • stev0
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                              #15
                              http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix7/13.jpg

                              isn't that a Kate's Playground pic?

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                              • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                #16
                                Hi Rowan

                                Originally posted by rowan
                                From what I can remember the webmaster is Australian, so 2257 regs don't strictly apply to him. There are local regs to follow but none of the images look to be sexually explicit (I just quickly skimmed them)

                                However, using a likeness for commercial purposes without a signed release is definitely not legal.

                                There's also copyright violation to consider.
                                I did a whois on this site and its in the US...

                                ---
                                Westchester, CA , US
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                                • stickyfingerz
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stev0
                                  http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix7/13.jpg

                                  isn't that a Kate's Playground pic?
                                  yup.......

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                                  • rowan
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                                    • Mar 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Balalsubturfyooj
                                    I did a whois on this site and its in the US...

                                    ---
                                    Westchester, CA , US
                                    ----
                                    Registrant Contact:
                                    WhoisGuard
                                    WhoisGuard Protected (e5934a01b4d04e1cbe3fe6b09e9c0c57.protect@whoisgua rd.com)
                                    ...

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                                    • swampthing
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stev0
                                      They don't look under 18...

                                      If you're that concerned contact the webmaster, don't start a witch hunt trying to trash peoples reputations without any proof.
                                      Don't even try it. Do not even fucking go there.
                                      This is no fucking witch hunt, you stupid fuck.

                                      and secondly, I do not have to contact the webmaster.

                                      There is not just one "realmix" gallery listed on his site. There are several.
                                      I am also pretty disgusted at the fact that you probably are not the only one that will have this opinion. It is pretty fucking sad.

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                                      • stev0
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by swampthing
                                        Don't even try it. Do not even fucking go there.
                                        This is no fucking witch hunt, you stupid fuck.

                                        and secondly, I do not have to contact the webmaster.

                                        There is not just one "realmix" gallery listed on his site. There are several.
                                        I am also pretty disgusted at the fact that you probably are not the only one that will have this opinion. It is pretty fucking sad.
                                        "Fuck fuckity fuck fuck fuck"

                                        Don't get your panties in a bunch.

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                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                          #21
                                          This thread is silly other than the Kate pic which needs to be removed.

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                                          • stev0
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                            This thread is silly other than the Kate pic which needs to be removed.
                                            Agreed...

                                            that site looks like every other amateur/teen blog or tgp out there.

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                                            • noone1
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                                              • Apr 2007
                                              • 111

                                              #23
                                              Is this thread a joke? I hope so, because it's fucking retarded.

                                              "how can you say they seem to be over 18? seriously. These are not industry girls, where there is an ability to prove the age."

                                              Are you kidding me? Maybe he has it in his desk in his office. They aren't "industry girls" because they don't have there own personal sites? Riiiiiight.

                                              For all you know, he paid for those pictures and has all the info he needs for them.

                                              I see nothing wrong with this. So unless you can prove that there is something illegal going on here, I suggest you just move along.

                                              Edit: OMG http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix7/
                                              Raven Riley? She isn't an industry girl!!!111
                                              Last edited by noone1; 07-12-2007, 07:47 AM.

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                                              • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                                #24
                                                Hey Rowan...

                                                Originally posted by rowan
                                                Registrant Contact:
                                                WhoisGuard
                                                WhoisGuard Protected (e5934a01b4d04e1cbe3fe6b09e9c0c57.protect@whoisgua rd.com)
                                                ...
                                                It goes by where the server is, from what I understand, and not the physical location of the webmaster... No matter... Rowan, his 2257 record is required by US law to display the "custodian of records" info, if its hosted in the US...

                                                Down-under is strict on the adult industry... I must ask why do you think this guy is there ? and if so then why not use a server there ?

                                                Later,
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                                                • swampthing
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stev0
                                                  http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix7/13.jpg

                                                  isn't that a Kate's Playground pic?
                                                  I wouldn't want the readers of this thread to think that just because you found one pic of an industry girl, that the rest are legit.

                                                  What it does show, is that he is has no idea where these pics originated from.

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                                                  • commonsense
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                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                    • 1790

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by swampthing
                                                    petiteteenager dot com

                                                    this guy has got galleries up on his site called "REALMIX"

                                                    look for the galleries that say "realmix"

                                                    They are amateur pictures of regular girls. These are not industry girls.

                                                    Now you cannot tell me this son of a bitch, has rights to use these pics.
                                                    If your program is sponsoring this guy, you might want to check it out and make your own judgment. You probably dont want your program to be associated with this individual. Some of these pics he is posting look pretty illegal to me.



                                                    LOL x 10

                                                    Tell us, who the fuck are you?
















                                                    ** Besides an ASSHAT

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                                                    • noone1
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                                                      • Apr 2007
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by swampthing
                                                      I wouldn't want the readers of this thread to think that just because you found one pic of an industry girl, that the rest are legit.

                                                      What it does show, is that he is has no idea where these pics originated from.
                                                      Are you kidding me? LOL. Petiteteenager has been around a while and is pretty damn popular. He knows very well that picture is of Kate.

                                                      Edit: Ok, I'm out of this thread. I think it's a joke and I've fallen for it. Damn.
                                                      Last edited by noone1; 07-12-2007, 07:54 AM.

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                                                      • swampthing
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by noone1
                                                        Is this thread a joke? I hope so, because it's fucking retarded.

                                                        "how can you say they seem to be over 18? seriously. These are not industry girls, where there is an ability to prove the age."

                                                        Are you kidding me? Maybe he has it in his desk in his office. They aren't "industry girls" because they don't have there own personal sites? Riiiiiight.

                                                        For all you know, he paid for those pictures and has all the info he needs for them.

                                                        I see nothing wrong with this. So unless you can prove that there is something illegal going on here, I suggest you just move along.

                                                        Edit: OMG http://realgirls.petiteteenager.com/1/realmix7/
                                                        Raven Riley? She isn't an industry girl!!!111
                                                        Your a fucking moron. Besides that, what in the fuck is he using raven riley and katesplayground to advertise FLING with?

                                                        and again, your picking out photos that are obvious girls in the indousty, 99% of those girls are not.

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                                                        • rowan
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                                                          • Mar 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by noone1
                                                          Are you kidding me? LOL. Petiteteenager has been around a while and is pretty damn popular. He knows very well that picture is of Kate.
                                                          Yes, and that's why it's surprising. Surely he should know that such content is for direct promotion only, or is spunkycash allowing affiliates to use their pics to send traffic to fling these days?

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                                                          • swampthing
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by noone1
                                                            Are you kidding me? LOL. Petiteteenager has been around a while and is pretty damn popular. He knows very well that picture is of Kate.
                                                            then why is he using them to promote FLING? that a seriuos violation of some TOS right there to say the least.

                                                            again, 99% of those girls are NOT industry!!

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                                                            • swampthing
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by commonsense
                                                              LOL x 10

                                                              Tell us, who the fuck are you?
















                                                              ** Besides an ASSHAT
                                                              who the fuck are you? and why should that even fucking matter. The stupidity level has gone through the fucking roof here.

                                                              Dont tell me what the law is, and you certainly cant make the shit up as you see fit.

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                                                              • stev0
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                I wouldn't want the readers of this thread to think that just because you found one pic of an industry girl, that the rest are legit.

                                                                What it does show, is that he is has no idea where these pics originated from.
                                                                What the hell are you talking about... There's no registry that "industry girls" subscribe to. He could have taken those photos for all you know, you don't know and THAT is the point everyone posting in this thread is trying to hammer into your thick newbie head.

                                                                The illegitimate photos that jump out to me are Raven Riley and Kate's Playground, those are copyright violations. I'm willing to say that because I'm quite certain that their use was not authorized on this site as it is not promoting Jaymancash or Kate's program. As for the rest... how the fuck would I know? and they're not mine, why should I care?
                                                                Last edited by stev0; 07-12-2007, 08:03 AM.

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                                                                • Ron2k1
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Mind your own business cocksucker

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                                                                  • mattz
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Don't you have something better to do with your time like work or something? Rather than sit here and whine about some small site that you have nothing to do with.

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                                                                    • commonsense
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                      • 1790

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                      who the fuck are you? and why should that even fucking matter. The stupidity level has gone through the fucking roof here.

                                                                      Dont tell me what the law is, and you certainly cant make the shit up as you see fit.
                                                                      I'm a webmaster, and you?


                                                                      I'm sure that site sends more joins to Raven and Kate's sites in a week than you will in a lifetime. Do you know for a fact that there is STOLEN content there, or that the content is used without permission?

                                                                      It sounds like you're a newb or jealous webmaster that looked at the Alexa for that site and wonders why you're not doing better.

                                                                      The fact that you don't know who those girls are or haven't seen them before doesn't mean a god damn thing.

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                                                                      • Ron2k1
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by mattz
                                                                        Don't you have something better to do with your time like work or something? Rather than sit here and whine about some small site that you have nothing to do with.
                                                                        The site is pretty big actually http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...teteenager.com

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                                                                        • swampthing
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by stev0
                                                                          What the hell are you talking about... There's no registry that "industry girls" subscribe to. He could have taken those photos for all you know, you don't know and THAT is the point everyone posting in this thread is trying to hammer into your thick newbie head.

                                                                          The illegitimate photos that jump out to me are Raven Riley and Kate's Playground, those are copyright violations. I'm willing to say that because I'm quite certain that their use was not authorized on this site as it is not promoting Jaymancash or Kate's program. As for the rest... how the fuck would I know? and they're not mine, why should I care?
                                                                          Im not a newb. Ive been in the industry since 96. Don't let the low post count or the nic fool you.

                                                                          The fact that he would even have those pics in there with the rest, should prove to you that he has no idea who in the fuck those girls are, where they come from, or how fucking old they are.

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                                                                          • swampthing
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Ron2k1
                                                                            yes it is.

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                                                                            • mattz
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                              then why is he using them to promote FLING? that a seriuos violation of some TOS right there to say the least.

                                                                              again, 99% of those girls are NOT industry!!
                                                                              how do you know? And so what? This thread is lame, go do something productive with your time rather than sit here and try to find flaws in a site you have nothing to do with, more than likely to make it seems like you actually know something anout this biz. We all know thats far from the truth after reading this thread.

                                                                              btw...who are you?

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                                                                              • mattz
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Ron2k1
                                                                                oh cool, doesn't really matter, he has nothing to do with this site, and should mind his own business rather than try to make it look like he knows something

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                                                                                • directfiesta
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                                  yes it is.
                                                                                  get a job as a cop
                                                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                  • Ron2k1
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                                    Im not a newb. Ive been in the industry since 96. Don't let the low post count or the nic fool you.

                                                                                    The fact that he would even have those pics in there with the rest, should prove to you that he has no idea who in the fuck those girls are, where they come from, or how fucking old they are.
                                                                                    So if you're doing business for so long, how can you be so offended by a regular teen tgp which has been around for many years.

                                                                                    Your postcount doesn't matter to me, but you sound exactly like the regular newbie crybaby

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                                                                                    • D
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      The girls all look a probable 18+ to me.

                                                                                      Maybe the OP's at that "awkward stage" of growing up (early 20's), when you begin to realize that you're aging... when 18-year-olds look younger than you think they should?

                                                                                      When I was 22ish, I remember thinking: 'no way that girl's legal - she's at least 4 years younger than me........

                                                                                      ...

                                                                                      oh.'

                                                                                      Otherwise, there could be more back-end drama here than I care to involve myself with - the fact that they're unknowns amounts to meaning absolutely nothing, and anyone actually in the business knows that. Whatever the case, imho, there's no way someone in their right mind can simply look at those girls and say that they're absolutely not 18.
                                                                                      Last edited by D; 07-12-2007, 08:20 AM.
                                                                                      -D.
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                                                                                      • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        I was wondering... does all of these pictures have watermarks to associate programs ?
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                                                                                        • swampthing
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Ron2k1
                                                                                          So if you're doing business for so long, how can you be so offended by a regular teen tgp which has been around for many years.

                                                                                          Your postcount doesn't matter to me, but you sound exactly like the regular newbie crybaby
                                                                                          the crybaby shit, doesnt work with me, sorry. You are going to have to try harder then that.

                                                                                          but, you stupid cunts who are sticking up for this guy, keep posting, becuase you are proving good points. That there are alot of sorry mother fuckers in this industry who certainly do not belong here. You probably belong in jail, getting fucked up the ass.

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                                                                                          • Dopy
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            OK, page http://realgirls.petiteteenager dot com/1/realmix12/ - 20.jpg


                                                                                            This is a 14 year old girl from a currently active Russian non nude model site. I know there are others but this one is absolute proof.

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                                                                                            • commonsense
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                                                                                              • Feb 2007
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by swampthing
                                                                                              Im not a newb. Ive been in the industry since 96. Don't let the low post count or the nic fool you.

                                                                                              The fact that he would even have those pics in there with the rest, should prove to you that he has no idea who in the fuck those girls are, where they come from, or how fucking old they are.

                                                                                              Your lack of common sense and attacking an established site with no proof is showing everyone you are indeed a newb. 11 years in the business you should of learned something. But then again, what did you do during those 11 years? Sites, programs, production, programming, distribution, retail?



                                                                                              FYI: Jerking off to porn doesn't mean you are "in" the industry.

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                                                                                              • swampthing
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by D
                                                                                                The girls all look a probable 18+ to me.

                                                                                                Maybe the OP's at that "awkward stage" of growing up (early 20's), when you begin to realize that you're aging... when 18-year-olds look younger than you think they should?

                                                                                                When I was 22ish, I remember thinking: 'no way that girl's legal - she's at least 4 years younger than me........

                                                                                                ...

                                                                                                oh.'

                                                                                                Otherwise, there could be more back-end drama here than I care to involve myself with - the fact that they're unknowns amounts to meaning absolutely nothing, and anyone actually in the business knows that. Whatever the case, imho, there's no way someone in their right mind can simply look at those girls and say that they're absolutely not 18.
                                                                                                stop, this isnt lightspeed content. this isnt teenrevenue. This is not one of those types of threads.

                                                                                                Those sites can prove the age of those girls, this is something entirely different.

                                                                                                I totally agree with some of the statements you have made there, but that doesnt rule out the fact, that there very well, could be some illegal shit being used there, and he has no fucking way to prove that shit.

                                                                                                I hate 2257 but, thats the exact fucking reason why the powers that be want it.

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                                                                                                • Dopy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  The guy who owns this site is pushing over the boundary and anyone who has been trading in the teen niche for long enough will recognise the content in his so called mix area.

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                                                                                                  • TheSenator
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                                                                                                    #50


                                                                                                    Thanks for the site. Great amateurish flickerish myspacish photos.
                                                                                                    ISeekGirls.com since 2005

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