Elli

I think the sign is a good idea to start with. Also maybe hang around the local parks a bit, see if they walk their dogs at all. Or even check at the local SPCA to see if they were picked up. At the very least you can make a complaint to animal control and the police to have your case on file if they ARE found.

I'm glad he's on the mend! Poor doggy! Give him a pat for me.

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Ninja_Pete

Did it ever occur to you that this might be the case, because 90% of the people who own them shouldn't?

Most people who own pitbulls own them for all the wrong reasons. Which is why the statistics are so horrible.

By the way, to the person who started this thread. I am glad your dog is ok and hope everything turns out ok. I hope you find the owner and give them what they deserve. Please get all the facts before you just have the dogs killed for being dogs. Pitbulls by nature are sometimes more dog aggressive then other dogs, but if they were in proper hands, they never would have been in your yard in the first place.

Don't be so quick to kill a dog because it was being a dog. It's the owners resonsibility to make sure it's not running loose.

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frostyimpressions

Sorry to hear about that. Do you know the owner of the pit bulls? Maybe you could make them reimburse you for the vet bill.

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Don't really read threads before responding, do you?

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Oh thats aweful babe!
Im so sorry to hear about this. Pets our best friends and when they hurt we hurt. I totally agree with you about the pitbulls im not a huge fan of them either hence the reason i have a pomeranian. I wish your doggie a fast recovery XOXO
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Brother Bilo

That's a pretty bold statement. I've owned mulitple Pitbulls and all of them I would trust with my life and the life of everyone I knew. Dogs act how you train them to act. I rescued a pitbull from the pound that was in a fight and that dog would follow me to the end of the earth. Blanket statements saying that Pitbulls are evil dogs is retarded. That's like saying black people rob liquor stores. Yes, they are very strong and that adds to peoples irrational fear of them, but if you train any other dog to fight, it would do the same thing.

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just reading this brings me to tears.

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they shouldn't be allowed as pets, nat born killers.

american pervert

saying that you hate all pit bulls and all pits are bad is like saying all black people are stupid and all fat people are lazy

if you raise anything the proper way, it will act proper.

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Brother Bilo

That's what I'm saying.

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tehHinjew

n how do you know it was pitbulls??

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xNetworx

Sue the owners. Sorry your dog got hurt

tehHinjew

is that a fact? its pure BS
my friend has 2 pit bulls and both are really social
i was supposed to get a rottweiler, but those only obey their owners and i want a dog that my family can pet.. so im getting a pitbull

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Libertine

What I'm wondering is *why* people keep insisting that they should be kept as pets.

There are hundreds, maybe even thousands of breeds to pick from... why the fuck would anyone go for the most infamous breed?

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? Why the hell do you have to pick exactly THAT breed which is quite commonly believed to be the most dangerous?

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One of my best friends has a pit bull and it's really making me question his intelligence. Everyone is like, 'oh come on, Mosely is so docile.' Sure they all are until they snap and kill something. Fuck pit bulls. Seriously. Why would anyone want that kind of liability? Sorry about your dogs.

StuartD

My thoughts exactly. It's really not worth the risk.

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_andy_

Probably because there are always so many pit bulls in humane societies and shelters and people think they are "rescuing" the poor little homeless pit bull.

JD

damn man if you need help hunting the fuckers lmk I've got lots of extra bullets ;)

Brother Bilo

That's ridiculous. They are very intelligent dogs and can learn whatever you teach them. The reason that the stigma is attached to them is because assholes train them to be mean. They are on the same restricted breed lists for apartments and insurance as rottwielers, dobermans, akitas, and german shepards, but nobody is starting a thread about how vicious they are. Calling someones intelligence into question because they own a pitbull is the just stupid. Shit, people raise their kids to be assholes too, it's the individual, not the whole population. It saddens me that I can't have pits because of all the bullshit that surrounds them from people like you. You blame the whole because of a few.

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That doesn't explain the loads of people who buy expensive pitbull pups from breeders, though.

In my opinion, they should just sterilize all pitbulls. Nobody's pets would get killed, but the breed would be gone in a few years.

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A pomeranian I know was recently viciously attacked by a Jack Russel terrier... The pomeranian's eye popped out and he needed surgery.

The two pit bulls I know however have never attacked anyone or anything...

StuartD

But that doesn't mean that they wouldn't some day. From all I've heard and read, a pit bull could have it's killer instinct rise to the surface at some random point for no discernible reason.
But it might not too.

For me, even if it's a 5% chance that it could happen.... any % is too much of a risk.

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rip raster

I really can't believe the ignorance of some of the people in here, how in the hell can you group all pit bulls into one category and call them monsters? I have owned many dogs in my life and I can honestly say that the pit bull that I have now is probably the smartest most affectionate and easiest to train of all the dogs that I have had. He totally loves being around people and loves to play with all other dogs. He has actually been snapped at quite a few times by smaller dogs and he just backs up with kind of a confused look on his face as if to say what's your problem I just want to play. Now if he was the vicious monster that a lot of you are making pit bulls out to be I suppose he would have ripped those other dogs to pieces, but he never shows any sign of retaliation or aggression.
The reason you hear or seam to hear more incidents of pit bull attacks is for one that they are a popular at the moment and you will tend to find more publicized attacks of the most popular breeds at the time. In the 70's it was dobermans and German Shepard's, then into the 80's it was rotties, and now pit bulls. It only makes sense that say out of a population of 1000 dogs of which 800 of those are pit bulls and the other 200 are other breeds you will probably have more reported attacks from pit bulls. Also a lot of times the dog in question is misidentified. I don't know haw many times I will be out with my dog and people will come up to me and comment on what a nice looking dog he is, then I get him to do a few tricks and they see how well behaved and obedient he is. They will be petting him and his tail will be wagging so hard in a circular motion (sometimes I think he may get airborne helicopter style), then they ask what type of dog he is and suddenly he's not cute anymore or well behaved and they usually will stop petting him and take a few steps back. It's just a shame that these dogs are made out to be such monsters when they clearly are not, and even when people see that for themselves they still buy into all the media hype that the dog will suddenly snap and start killing everything in sight. These people don't seem to understand that any dog if not trained properly, socialized or mistreated can be dangerous, some bigger breeds just have the potential to do more damage than others.

Brother Bilo

Any dog can snap, shit any person can snap. There is nothing different from what you are saying then what a racist says. It's just dogs so it's not on the same level. You are saying that because some are violent, all of them must be. So, because my aunt and uncle were robbed by a black guy, all of them are capable of doing it, it's just that robber instinct that will just surface one day?

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Glad he is going to survive and you can take him home today

Now this thread needs some before pics of "Cayman"

AaronM

Then you may want to think twice before reading the following thread.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...9#post12740089

Loryn

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DirtyDanza

To play devils advocate.. more dog on dog maulings are not involving pitbulls.. I do see your fustration with that type of dog right now because of what happend.. but really you have to look at the owners not the dog... I own a pitbull and a chow.. plus I have 2 small children... I have taken my dogs around other dogs to play since birth.. I would leave my pit with anybody.. his best friend is a little chiwawa... so don't blame the breed of dog... because the most dangerous dog in the world is a dalmation followed shortly after by cocker spanial... pit bull belive it or not was ranked like 94th most likley to be aggressive... I would be hunting the owners not the dogs... for people who say oh I can;t control my dog.. then don't have a dog...

and I can honestly say if my dog were to bite another dog I woluld personally shoot my dog... thats not tolerated around here never was never has been... the prob is people want to get big dogs for protection which is the wrong thing to do... get a dog for companion get a gun for protection... both my dogs know who the boss is.... I will break bones on my dog and I have to prove that I am the boss....

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Loryn

Actually a pure bread pit bull does not have the instincts that you are saying AT ALL. They are raised that way. The dog you are thinking about is called a CHOW. They are the ones who will turn on the family that owns it!

Now I would more than likely assume that those two dogs that did this to Cayman were raised bad. I know when dogs get together they become wild, but if this was my dog, I would have shot those fucking dogs right then and there. Sorry but Cayman is sweet and was in his back yard. Those dogs would have been fucking dead.

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Aaron I am so sorry baby! I have tears in my eyes.

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DirtyDanza

you mean sharpee... sharpee is the only dog that I konw of that was bread for pure fighting... we have owned many chows growing up and I own one now and no aggression at all... then again I beat the fuck outta my dogs let em konw who boss is

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I'm willing to agree that any dog can be well trained, and not all pit bulls will "snap" at some point into a violent rage.

BUT the damage that a raging pit bull can do is FAR more than that of a spaniel or poodle or other non-fighting dog. Use common sense, people. If you are willing to accept that increased risk in order to own a pit bull, then that is your responsibility. If you let that dog out of your control, you are responsible for whatever havoc it causes.

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I say we get a petetion together and get the owners of these dogs and charge them criminally

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Libertine

When a Jack Russell attacks a kid, the kid will probably have some minor injuries. When a pitbull attacks a kid, the kid is likely to end up dead

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Agreed, but that's with everything. Children, dogs, cats whatever. If it's yours, you should take responsibilty of it.

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Ninja_Pete

great post. some of the morons posting in this thread are making it impossible for me to continue debating the topic. people are fucking stupid and ignorant, its just the way it is. they believe everything the media writes and everything their friend tells them. until you actually own a pitbull and see for yourself they are not these "viscious, attacking, killing machines" you'll never understand.

i also would really be curious to know how the person who's dog was attacked knows it was 2 purebred pitbulls that attacked his dog. I am not questioning his intellegence or trying to take away from the fact his dog was attacked. but just saying "it was 2 pitbulls" is something i have heard so many times, to later on find out it wasnt pitbulls. there are alot of mixed breeds out there, but if a pitbull is in the mix, the dog is labeled a pitbull. ive seen very aggresive boxer/pit mixes, lab/pit mixes ect...if the dog is nice its a mix, if its not nice, its labeled a pitbull.

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Bad owners make bad dogs.Plain and simple. Chances are if you're a douchebag your dog will be too.

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A few years back after one of my lengthy hospital stays I moved in with some friends that had a 18 month old female pittie, and a 4 year old bengal cat (it was pretty small though especially for a bengal) at the time I had a 13 year old male black lab/rottie x. I often would come home to this pittie running full speed down the stairs passing me in the hallway, nearly knocking me down half the time because this 8 pound cat was chasing her.

Let me tell you this dog could jump, she would jump over the back fence that was over 8 feet high from a stand still and would wonder the neighbourhood. The first time she got out she was brought back by a 12 year old little girl and her 7 year old brother. They were going door to door trying to find out who she belonged to. From then on she would come by a few times a week to walk her

Boobzooka

Because if they are not neglected or abused, they are one of the safest breeds to own. The sad history of the breed resulted in a dog that, through unnatural selection, would never turn on a human, even during a fight. The handlers had to be able to step in between them safely. Human-aggressive dogs were destroyed and not allowed to pass on their genes.

Today we have little of that sort of breeding going on, thankfully, but now we have a whole bunch of mastiff-family mutts that vaguely resemble pitbulls or a dozen other breeds which undergo no temperament testing and are just supposed to look mean. The look of the dog is irrelevant to anything but the owners ego. The majority of dog incidents reported as pitbulls are actually mutts that may or may not actually have any pitbull in them at all.

Most of the pitbulls I meet are smart, funny, happy dogs; despite the sort of background that resulted in them being placed into a shelter. The confidence that was bred into them makes them much more reliable than more skittish breeds. We have fewer problems with pitbulls or pitbull mixes.

The only valid concern with pitbulls that is not myth or media hype is that they are more likely to be aggressive towards other dogs if not properly socialized. If you own a pitbull and you're not taking it on walks and trips to the dogpark, then you're an irresponsible owner, but I'd say that regardless of what breed you own. Keeping dogs alone in your backyard all day will result in untrustworthy dogs. Emotional neglect can be just as dangerous as malnourishment and physical abuse.

Anyway, I'm off to go play with some of these vicious killers now.

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Pleasurepays

the problem with your reasoning is that it happens. it happens with this specific breed of dogs. this specific breed of dogs that is an animal that is bred to fight and kill and frequently kill people and other dogs.

what do dog owners have to do with anything? you can't determine who can own a pit bull and who can't any more than you can determine who can have a child and who can't. so "dog owners" being assholes or being irresponsible is a moot point.

Brother Bilo

I had a pit once that got out of the yard and i didn't realize it. Before I knew it, the doorbell rang and it was a postwoman at the door and my dog came trotting in the house. He loved to go for drives so when he got out and saw the mail truck with the open door, he jumped right in, pretty much on her lap. He was a big fella too, about 75 pounds. Scarred the shit out of her, but he got in there so fast she couldn't get her pepper spray out. Good thing too because he proceeded to lick her face clean. I guess she finished her whole route with him just sitting there and then called in to get me address. I thought it was pretty funny, but I'm glad she wasn't one of the irrationally hateful bastards that posted on this thread or he might of been put down.

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I'm friends with a lady who's daughter had a baby girl. I'd guess the baby was about 2. The daughter and her boyfriend live in an apartment with the baby. They did have a pitbull as well. According to my friend, the dog was always well behaved, and to their knowledge had never been mistreated. The daughter and the boyfriend felt strongly that pit bulls were safe.

Until the dog went at the toddler who was napping on the couch one day while her mother was in the kitchen doing dishes. The dog repeatedly bit the baby in the face.

I have not seen the grandmother (my friend) since it happened to know how the baby is doing. I do know from reports in the paper that she was going to need intensive plastic surgery.

I'm sorry, I know there are people who advocate on their behalf, but I don't want to be anywhere around a pit bull.

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_Richard_

Seems like quite the convo, but let me post my condolences.. i hope your dog gets well soon

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ROFL, k Michael moore

bushwacker

all dogs can be dangerous, but it seems pits tend to be a bit more aggressive than most.

Ninja_Pete

You are completely wrong dude. This breed isnt bred to fight and kill. People use this breed as working dogs, show dogs, special needs dogs, and as great family pets. HUMANS make this breed fight and kill. My pitbull is no different then any other pitbull in the world. He has never tried to fight or kill anything. Why? Because he hasn't been raised by me to fight and kill.

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Ninja_Pete

For those of you who would actually like to learn a little bit about pitbulls before just saying "kill them all". Here are some great resources. I am sure 90% of you won't look or learn, but at least I am providing factual documentation to back up my statements.

The American Temperament Test Society ranks dogs at a pass/fail rate after they go through a course that the Society sets up. A good, unbiased resource reflecting the stability of the breed when compared to some others.

American Pit Bull Terrier: 84.1%
American Staffordshire Terrier: 83.9%
Staffordshire Bull Terrier: 85.2%
Golden Retriever: 83.8%
Dalmation: 81.9%
Chow Chow: 69.7%
Chihuahua: 71.4%
Collie: 79.2%
Labrador Retriever: 91.5%

...any large dog can hurt someone. Remember the French woman who made the news by having the first facial transplat of it's kind? Thank her lab mix.

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
http://www.pbrc.net/
http://understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Oth...llDogsBite.htm
http://understand-a-bull.com/BSL/Mis...ty/WrongId.htm
http://www.avma.org/public_health/dogbite/dogbite.pdf
http://www.atts.org/
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/
http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html
http://www.badrap.org/rescue/
http://www.pitbullforum.com/index.php

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bushwacker

just put them all down.

Big Red Machine

Sorry to hear about your dog Aaron

I think 1 of the problems is pounds are filled with Pit Bulls. So people who can't afford to buy a dog get them from the pound. Meanwhile the reason they can't afford a dog is because their undisciplined people that can't train themselves , let alone a dog.
I know 1 or 2 nice Pits, but I have a pain in the ass one next door to me.
Anyway best of luck with your dog Aaron

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