I do have to agree, that at least 90% of the time, its the owners that should bear the full blame on the actions of their dogs. The other 10% you have to blame on breeders. I've heard some fucked up stories on breeding tactics, breeding with the same family etc, and I wouldn't doubt these are the reasons you hear of some dogs snapping on their own owners.

The reason many owners get pitbulls, rotties etc. is because they are tough, protective and people fear them. Society has to trust in the owners to abide by laws, like having dogs leashed and muzzled, but time after time again, shit like this happens. Up here in Ontario, Pit bulls are now banned.

I'm sorry to hear this Aaron. I hope everything goes well and I hope Cayman has a speedy recovery.

Anybody ragging on Aaron or the cops in their decision to kill the dogs needs to re-think. These 2 dogs are very aggressive and could have easily killed Aaron's dog or even a child. They actively went into Aaron's yard and attacked. Aggressive dogs like these two are a danger, and this is why the Police would not hesitate to put them down.

Yup, there's no stopping those dogs now other than death. You can't take the "killer" out of them at this point. No amount of training will make certain that they won't attack again.

Pitbulls do nothing but attack people and other animals. Find something more tame to love as a pet because those things are just a menace.
No redeeming qualities.

no way.....i would keep driving until i found the owner of those dogs. i would beat them until they couldn't walk, talk or see and then i would shove the bill down their throat and made sure they paid every cent.

I like most pit bulls, all the ones I've ever met have been some of the nicest dogs. A friend of mine had a pit that was about 1.5 feet tall and 3 feet wide, all solid muscle. :helpme The thing was a brick, but it was the most gentle dog I have ever seen. It knew exactly how to play with their autistic son, and not hurt him, and even would play well with their new baby kitten that could still fit in the palm of someones hand.

The Pitbulls sole problem is they became the official mascot of the fucking ghetto. To thugs, their pit is just more "bling". Its just another item on the checklist of what they need to keep it real....

Other items include:
Ridiculously over sized gold/silver jewelry
Grill/Gold Teeth
Ford Expedition/Cadillac Escalade with spinner rims, or incredibly riced out Japanese car
Bass
Hoes with Badonkadonk

Sleazy makes good points and I hope your dog has a speedy recovery.

Hopefully you find out who the owners are and then something can be done.

what a horrible situation. :( i wish you and cayman the best of luck. please keep us posted.

I'm not gonna get into a pitbull debate, but alot of you sound like absolute fucking idiots. Before you bash pitbulls so quick, educate yourself on the breed. It's not the dogs fault, it's the people who own them. I own a pitbull and he's by far the best dog I have ever owned. He wouldn't hurt a flee. Unfortunately these dogs end up in the hands of the wrong people, so they in turn, suffer for it.

My dog has been attacked by an English Bulldog, a Black Lab, and a Golden Retriever. Never once has he even remotely shown any dog or human aggression towards anything.

The irresponsible, shitbag owners should be banned or shot, not the dogs.

People who own pit bulls are one thing. Idiots who own pit bulls and allow them to run loose through the neighborhood are quite another. Do like Sleazy suggested and put up posters. Chances are someone in the area will rat them out and then you sic the cops on them, and sue them for the cost of your vet bill.

Painfully ignorant statement.

That sucks. I'd def. get the cash off the owners for that shit. My husbands cousin has the best pitbull on earth. When she first got him he used to rip cats apart, fight with other dogs as the previous owner trained him to fight. But somehow she changed him into a big baby. He listens well, is afraid of her when she disciplines him. Such a good fucking dog. I NEVER in my life knew that a pitbull could be such a big baby. So sweet. He's great with kids to very tolerable. Not all pitbulls are violent. It's how the owners raise them/train them. ::2cents

holy fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk

That is the most priceless quote in this thread so far. :thumbsup

Pitbulls aren't bad dogs unless they have bad owners. Any dog is aggressive if its taught to be.

I hope he's doing better now.

:(

Then PEOPLE should be barred from owning them! LOL it's not a hard thing. Pit Bulls bite more often than any other breed (more than most combined), and they also are MORE likely to attack adults AND out of the blue with no warning. Partly because people hack off their tails and can't read the dogs demeanor.

Hey look, it's someone who knows what they're talking about. :thumbsup

Then maybe a personality and competency test should be given to people who want them to determine if they are fit pitbull owners. I dont know, whats your suggestion? Just get over it? No big deal I'm over it. I wont go near those damn things if I have a choice.

Look I love animals, but those things are constantly in the news for attacking people or other animals. There is something wrong with that.

holy fuckkkkkkkkkkkkk

That was pretty original. LOL

A Word About Aggression

It is VERY important to note that, in dogs, and especially with this particular breed, aggression toward humans (called human aggression) is a COMPLETELY separate trait from aggression toward dogs (dog aggression) and/or other animals (animal aggression). While a dog may be both human and animal aggressive, the presence of one kind of aggression DOES NOT mandate or exclude the presence of the other.


http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/breedinfo.php

Tom, I couldn't agree more with you. Pitbulls shouldn't be allowed to be owned by anyone. I would love nothing more to see something done about screening and controlling who can own the breed. But we all know, that'll never happen. I hope to meet you someday with my dog :) He will completely change your view on pitbulls.

I understand why people are afraid of them, because all you ever hear is horrible things about them. They are constantly in the news, because they are an easy target. I was bit by a German Shepard last week at the dog park, was he in the news? nope. If my pit would have bit someone, would he be in the news....yup.

I just can't stand when people say dumb shit and really have no idea about the breed. I love my dog with everything I have, and know alot of pitbull owners. These dogs are so awesome, but people just don't hear about or seem to meet the nice ones. So when I see people bashing and hating and saying they should be killed, just for being a pitbull, I get enraged.

It's not their fault, they really just end up in the hands of horrible people most of the time, that want to make them these killer bad ass dogs. Those are the people who should be shot, not the dog. I could make a poodle a viscious killer if I raised it a certain way.

http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20...%20Clifton.pdf

"Temperament is not the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is
relevant is actuarial risk. If almost any other dog has a bad moment,
someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the
actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a
Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that
has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as
their victims are paying the price.
Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be
handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special
requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other
animals, if they are to be kept at all."

I understand, Pete. Sometimes the numbers just tell the story and everytime I see another story about a pitbull attack it sets me off again.

I was bitten by more than 1 dog as a kid, no pitbulls or rottweilers. One was some tiny little mutt that grabbed my shoe and didnt even break through it. Another one grabbed my arm and I was able to get my hand in it's mouth and squeeze. That one broke skin and bled, but no permanent damage.

But wow if it'd been one of those strong dogs, who knows. I think they are too dangerous to keep as domestic pets. Not by training or whatever, just the breeds natural tendancy.

Sorry to hear. We have a friend that has one, and it is dumb as a rock, and so loving and playful. Has never hurt anyone, but when he wants to give love, he can get a bit rough giving it.

Aaron.. Hope cayman makes a speedy and full healthy recovery...

Now my 2cents on the pitbull thing... I am a big dog fan, have had one my whole life around me.. I have met some really cool pits that others have owned. They would not seem like they would hurt a fly and play along with children fine BUT there is just something not right with a pits mental wiring. It has been WELL documented that they can just flip and attack for no real cause it seems. When it does happen, 90% of the time the dog owners family will be on the news talking about how gentle their dog is that just killed the neighbors toddler. They are just not made right in the head for some reason. They may never flip but if they do for whatever reason its things like this that happens.

Part 2 of the story goes to my grandmother. My entire life she has worked here in Cali for Pet Assistance. She would take in and adopt personally nearly any cat or dog that did not find a home herself to keep it from being put down since she loves them so much. She is kinda the crazy cat lady you hear about at times (without the crazy too much) and has had up to 80 cats and dozens of dogs at times before it got to be too much. BUT.. and here is the kicker. Of all people and pet lovers she is also on the committee to have pits all put down and the breed ended humanely. As she always said "There is just something gone wrong with the breed thru the years and its sad."

I understand. If pugs were overbred, abused, and placed into the hands of thousands of retards who raised them as killers, it would be the same situation. They would be all over the news, and people would fear pugs. But that doesn't mean pugs should be banned and shot on site. It's not their fault humans are ruining them.

It's not the breed, it's the owners that don't know how to keep them under control. My pit bull is the sweetest thing that you could ever imagine having.

How did they get into your yard? did they jump up and unlock the gate? Sounds like maybe you need to secure your yard better.

Any dog can be bred to be vicious. Don't blame the breed.

so can my neighbor's poodle.

Hope your dog is ok. My two dogs sit at my feet all day while I am working. They trip me 14 times a day, but it's worth it.

Once the dust settles, you have GOT to do this:

http://judgejudy.com/SubmitCase/submitcase.asp

That would be great TV.

Temperament is not the issue, nor is it even relevant. What is
relevant is actuarial risk.

It's really just how the math works out.

amen to that !

it s the best breed i ve ever had around
the problem is what people do with them and the way they raise them :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

Sorry to hear man... hope your dog is ok

Cayman has been in surgery for over 5 hours now and they can't tell me anything at this point.

As for the dogs.....I've been poking around the neighborhood and found a guy who owns 3 pits. The neighbors all say they are well controlled dogs. The dog owner told me he was walking them last night about the same time Cayman was attacked. He then took me around the neighborhood and pointed out the homes of all the other pits.

Come to find out that the dogs at one of these homes are aggressive and have been roaming the streets a lot lately. Even attacked a couple of Pomeranians recently about a block away.

The guy who lives behind those dogs works at Petco and has reported them several times to animal control. I'm waiting to meet up with him so I can find out more.

Do what they do here in Northern KY. Kill them on site. If a pit goes to the pound for any reason its kill immediately... no 3 day waiting period here. They are also banned and the local dog parks etc. In Cincinnati your require to have them licensed.. still does not stop the idiots from breeding more of them. Sad thing is they bring them up from other county now and adopt them out at the local petsmart during "rescue days" The manager is a bull dyke who happens to own a pit and sees nothing wrong with them... I'm just waiting for the day when one kills a kid inside the store. and what you see around here is the same stereotypical bullshit you see anywhere else, the other day I had my dog to the vet for a quick update and you have these 2 black guys picking up their pit... over sized jerseys, rhinestone shades, gold teeth and shiny dollar signs on the half turned baseball caps... The kind of people that I'm sure are just wonderful upstanding citizens... and hmmm... the pit was in there for a "small" bite wound... (which of course they were kind of laughing about) jack asses. Course we have everyone so mind fucked that if you say ANYTHING your a fucking racist... And mind you, it's not just the gutter blacks that own them here... the white trash sector is just as strong. These animals have just become another so called "status symbol" for the fucking dregs of society. Find out who the fucker is that owns these to dogs... post his picture and prove me wrong.

Sorry about the rant... everytime I hear another story like this it just pisses me off more.

Awww I hope you hear from the soon.


:(

This just sucks Sorry :disgust

Im sorry for what happened to your dog but how they got into your yard doesnt make any sense to me but ok.
thats real genious of cops to say shit like that what if they just got loose from some irresponsible owners house?
These are possibly abused animals we are talking about here (Noy normal dogs).
You said yourself that they got into a fenced in yard!
Sounds like these pits seem to like to break through things too,they have been known to chew through walls when abused.

Whats amazing to me here is how people see actual data, and still persist that there is nothing inherently more dangerous about the breed.

When you look at your sales stats, do you decide that you keep sending more traffic to the tour you love most, or the one that makes you the most money? Cmon.

A bazooka is inherently more dangerous than a BB gun. Undeniable truth.

If a crazy lunatic owns the bazooka, it's just MORE dangerous. The person does not represent the entire risk. This is not hard stuff, lol.

let me be the first off to say that there is something fucked about this breed!
I have met alot of dogs and this breed is super fucked up!
The reason is because of breeding with tigers!
There is a super breed of dog that was cross bred with tigers back in the 80s this breed was not pit! However pits have since been cross bred with this sub breed and now we all got these fuckin wack job dogs in the world!
If you dont beleive me do some extensive reasearch on it!(this is the reason why alot of them look like tigers)Brindle I think they call it!

Well I have no problem with people owning their beloved pets. But please dont get angry with me if you invite me in and I say if you please chain the dog outside..

And I sure hope Aarons dog is ok after all of this mess. Thats the important thing.

Vet just called.

He's out of Surgery and seems to be doing OK.

He has "hundreds" of bite marks most of which did not penetrate. He has puncture and tear marks literally from head to his tail which required about half of his body to be shaved and lots of stitches.

They say I can pick him up in about 3 hours.

Wow that sucks, is your dog going to be alright? What kind of dog is it?

Glad hes alright! :thumbsup

MONDAY: Police investigating pit bull attack on toddler (10 p.m.)

ATTACK: Family dog reportedly assaulted 2-year-old

Greater Niagara Newspapers

Police investigating pit bull attack on toddler

ATTACK: Family dog reportedly assaulted 2-year-old

BY APRIL AMADON/[email protected]

Lockport police are investigating an apparent attack by a pit bull on a small boy.

The 2-year-old is recovering at Women and Children?s Hospital of Buffalo after police say he was attacked and sexually assaulted by his family?s pit bull.

Police said the toddler was in his home on Washburn Street about 2 p.m. Sunday when the pill bull attacked. According to police, the dog sodomized the boy.

?The dog sexually attacked the kid and caused some pretty significant injuries,? said Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert.

Eggert said the boy?s family members, who were reportedly home at the time, and neighbors had to beat the dog to get him off the boy.

The dog has been impounded at the Niagara County SPCA in Wheatfield as the investigation continues. Eggert said a veterinarian will be brought in to take DNA samples from the dog.

?(The vet will) compare DNA taken from the boy to kind of verify it happened,? Eggert said.

Eggert said everyone involved in the case was shocked by the bizarre happenings.

?I have never, ever heard of an assault quite like that,? Eggert said.

Niagara County SPCA Executive Director Al Chille said this case is an unusual one.

?I have had reports of adults having (sexual) relationships with animals, but not anything like that,? he said. ?The majority of the calls we receive with regards to pit bulls are bite calls, not calls of this nature. We get a considerably large number of those (bite calls) from all over the county.?


http://www.tonawanda-news.com/newtod...yword=topstory

i love how everyone blames the owners... yet these types of problems are 90% the result of one single breed of dog.

I'm really glad he's ok... he's going to need a lot of love when he gets home. That must have been absolutely terrifying for him :(

I hope you took alot of pics and got the vets statement. the police need to know this and if your suing, they are going to require that info. but Im sure you know that