Stop the hitbotters - need your opinion... - GoFuckYourself.com

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:00 AM

http://www.pr0.net/main.html

Will this help to stop them? Or just help them....

I'm considering making each person who wants access a user/pass, because in the future i will have many many more listed.

What do you think? Good idea/Bad idea...you tell me.

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:05 AM

putting them into htaccess?

do you wanna crash your server dude?

roseyrid · 09-02-2002, 12:05 AM

pr0, i got no clue about security issues....do you know where i can get some information, and read up about this stuff?

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by Lane
putting them into htaccess?

do you wanna crash your server dude?

No but if i list every open server out there...then people bitching about them have no excuse. You either figure out a way to use it to your advantage...or you continue to get fucked by the people using them.

I dunno, im still working on the concept. I'm open to any idea's.

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:08 AM

uhm, by the way you should strip off all the ports from those ip's, so you dont have list of proxies for hitbotters to use... if you wanna detect hits from those ips, you dont need the port numbers anyways..

just my

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:12 AM

Actually...hmmm.....

People who think they are getting hitbotted could cross-referrence their log files with this Database. See how many match the list etc.

Hmmm...come on guys give me some idea's...

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by pr0
Actually...hmmm.....

People who think they are getting hitbotted could cross-referrence their log files with this Database. See how many match the list etc.

Hmmm...come on guys give me some idea's...

yes, but you dont need the ports to do that

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by Lane

yes, but you dont need the ports to do that

Theres only a few thousand on there right now, next update i will take off the port #'s. I suppose it could be used for evil in the state its listed now....good point.

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by pr0

Theres only a few thousand on there right now, next update i will take off the port #'s. I suppose it could be used for evil in the state its listed now....good point.

yup, you got it

having these ip's is only good for blocking them or matching them to the logs (which could be a very long process with a long list, you need the right algorithms for this)..

other than that there are several other ways for detecting hitbots which dont require having a list of ips..

but having this list is nice, i will make further research on these, it could help me on my new project

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by Lane

yup, you got it

having these ip's is only good for blocking them or matching them to the logs (which could be a very long process with a long list, you need the right algorithms for this)..

other than that there are several other ways for detecting hitbots which dont require having a list of ips..

but having this list is nice, i will make further research on these, it could help me on my new project

A free trade script with proxy protection i hope? Because honestly cjultra is nice, but the hitbots can tear it up.

redshift · 09-02-2002, 12:28 AM

thnks for the proxy list dude *EG*
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pr0

A free trade script with proxy protection i hope?

uhm... too early to tell actually..

redshift · 09-02-2002, 12:30 AM

ay lane what happened to that cheater detection script you was workin on?

Lane · 09-02-2002, 12:32 AM

i finished a first version, had some beta testers.. everyone loved it.. but i dont wanna release it until i make a version 2

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by redshift
thnks for the proxy list dude *EG*
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anytime

Satan · 09-02-2002, 01:30 AM

ok, what about people who use a proxy simply to access the net (which is a LOT)

will you be blocking those too?

http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/

Lane · 09-02-2002, 10:40 AM

i'm not in favor of blocking anyone. i just think of ways to catch the cheaters, not stop them before they do it.

and over 90% of all proxy surfers use their ISP proxies, which are not available to public and most of them are not anonymous.

pr0 · 09-02-2002, 12:00 PM

Most people smart enough to use a proxy to disguise their porn surfing are the same ones who won't pay for porn. And most people using ISP proxies, those proxies are not open.

Anyways, i think this will be instrumental in catching cheaters. And i encourage everyone to donate their proxy logs to the cause.

Brian911 · 09-02-2002, 12:25 PM

even without the ports this list isnt a good idea

Plat · 09-02-2002, 12:37 PM

ive been able to fit around 800 ip's in my htaccess before having it crash. now i empty after it reaches 500 and let my script start over again catching more cheaters. works like a charm

View Poll Results: Is this a good idea?
Hell yea! Add all 3million in your DB pr0!	8	44.44%
Umm what the fuck is this?	3	16.67%
No, not a good idea....	4	22.22%
Holy shit! Shut that site down now! Im scared!	3	16.67%
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09-02-2002, 12:00 AM	#1
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09-02-2002, 12:05 AM	#2
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	putting them into htaccess? do you wanna crash your server dude? __________________

09-02-2002, 12:08 AM	#5
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	uhm, by the way you should strip off all the ports from those ip's, so you dont have list of proxies for hitbotters to use... if you wanna detect hits from those ips, you dont need the port numbers anyways.. just my __________________

09-02-2002, 12:32 AM	#14
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	i finished a first version, had some beta testers.. everyone loved it.. but i dont wanna release it until i make a version 2 __________________

09-02-2002, 12:05 AM	#3
roseyrid Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LA Posts: 1,058	pr0, i got no clue about security issues....do you know where i can get some information, and read up about this stuff?

09-02-2002, 12:12 AM	#6
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Actually...hmmm..... People who think they are getting hitbotted could cross-referrence their log files with this Database. See how many match the list etc. Hmmm...come on guys give me some idea's...

09-02-2002, 12:28 AM	#11
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	thnks for the proxy list dude EG MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

09-02-2002, 12:30 AM	#13
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	ay lane what happened to that cheater detection script you was workin on?

09-02-2002, 01:30 AM	#16
Satan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hell Posts: 1,626	ok, what about people who use a proxy simply to access the net (which is a LOT) will you be blocking those too? http://tools.rosinstrument.com/proxy/ __________________ WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?

09-02-2002, 10:40 AM	#17
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	i'm not in favor of blocking anyone. i just think of ways to catch the cheaters, not stop them before they do it. and over 90% of all proxy surfers use their ISP proxies, which are not available to public and most of them are not anonymous. __________________

09-02-2002, 12:00 PM	#18
pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Most people smart enough to use a proxy to disguise their porn surfing are the same ones who won't pay for porn. And most people using ISP proxies, those proxies are not open. Anyways, i think this will be instrumental in catching cheaters. And i encourage everyone to donate their proxy logs to the cause.

09-02-2002, 12:25 PM	#19
Brian911 Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 654	even without the ports this list isnt a good idea __________________ - Brian [ a directive occured while processing this error ]

09-02-2002, 12:37 PM	#20
Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	ive been able to fit around 800 ip's in my htaccess before having it crash. now i empty after it reaches 500 and let my script start over again catching more cheaters. works like a charm __________________ Im fuckin retired