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X37375787 07-04-2007 09:24 PM

The generic landing pages on type in domains won't hardly make the money back that the investor put into it in the first place. I am just waiting for this whole bubble to burst, this insanity can't last forever. Same goes with Web 2.0 and overenthusiastic VCs dumping millions into "promising" projects.

fluffygrrl 07-04-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NTSS (Post 12705521)
Nah....they're not "useless". Unless you register some stupid ass name that nobody really gives a shit about. I honestly can't believe some of the shit people register. It's fucking mind-boggling.

I'm not in the biz of registering dn's purely for the sake of reselling them at a profit. However, I have sold a few (3) for a total of about $1500. On 2 of those I was approached clearly out of the blue and the 3rd I was actively selling.

I wouldn't say they are totally "useless". See that long ass domain name in my sig? Perfect example....

Ya, again, I'm sure that happens. Not quite what the "domainers" - hey, look, a new profession - would have you believe tho.

fluffygrrl 07-04-2007 11:09 PM

Hehehe it's so funny to watch all sorts of self appointed experts attack me for attacking their precious eggbasket.

It's not my fault you've bought the rainbow boys and girls. It's your fault. You can call me names and fight strawmen all day long, it's just one more day of pipedreaming. Do enjoy.

esnem 07-04-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12705936)
Hehehe it's so funny to watch all sorts of self appointed experts attack me for attacking their precious eggbasket.

What's so funny to the rest of us is that you are a self appointed expert who hasn't a clue :1orglaugh

uno 07-05-2007 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12705936)
Hehehe it's so funny to watch all sorts of self appointed experts attack me for attacking their precious eggbasket.

It's not my fault you've bought the rainbow boys and girls. It's your fault. You can call me names and fight strawmen all day long, it's just one more day of pipedreaming. Do enjoy.

You really have absolutely no idea, do you?

vvq 07-05-2007 12:16 AM

interesting thread. i never knew you needed to develop domains for them to make money. boy i'm stupid! :upsidedow

DaddyHalbucks 07-05-2007 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12703452)

Franky for me, I just get creative and brand a domain of my choosing. I am not paying $XX,XXX for some domain.

No Problem. There are plenty of companies such as Hustler and Playboy that are pleased to seize the opportunity and grab the market share that you are leaving on the table.

$5 submissions 07-05-2007 01:05 AM

I'm just kicking myself why I didn't get second post in this thread :(

DaddyHalbucks 07-05-2007 01:08 AM

Fluffy,

You ain't got a clue. The big domainers have millions of clicks per day, and they make bundles of cash.

And, it will only get better. Just keep watching.

I think we should bookmark this thread and come back in five years. Then you tell me if domains still have no value.

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 12706296)
I think we should bookmark this thread and come back in five years. Then you tell me if domains still have no value.

Go for it.

Heard it so many times about so many different things it's ticlking me pink. Bookmark some MLM threads while you're, wait. The AGLOCO toolbar too, right ?

Shey 07-05-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706316)
Go for it.

Heard it so many times about so many different things it's ticlking me pink. Bookmark some MLM threads while you're, wait. The AGLOCO toolbar too, right ?

Is it because people keep posting? Is that why you think you still have a point to make? :helpme:error:helpme

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shey (Post 12706346)
Is it because people keep posting? Is that why you think you still have a point to make? :helpme:error:helpme

You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-05-2007 01:46 AM

you are one of the biggest idiots on this board! No, really.
That parked domain makes 1000 times more than Z in your sig. No, never mind. The Z has yet to make any money.

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Legendary Samir (Post 12706369)
you are one of the biggest idiots on this board! No, really.
That parked domain makes 1000 times more than Z in your sig. No, never mind. The Z has yet to make any money.

Ooo, I remember you. You're the guy google paid 50k to photochop a check of theirs. Right, and you can't quite keep index.php straight. I was wondering when you'd join the chorus of wailing banshees. Busy day at the drive-through ?

vvq 07-05-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706358)
You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Most people would agree, you don't seem to understand the value of type-in traffic. Monetization is not dependent on development. A lot of people actually make more money parking rather than developing. Traffic is and always will be what's worth money. Why develop when you can sell it to someone that already has?

will76 07-05-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 12703452)

Franky for me, I just get creative and brand a domain of my choosing. I am not paying $XX,XXX for some domain.



:2 cents:

If you take a no name domain with 0 type in traffic and try to band it, it will cost you a lot of money. That cost needs to be factored in when comparing buying a domain for $10 vs buying one for a lot more that is already getting type in traffic.

will76 07-05-2007 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 12703826)
In other news. The owner of the hotdog stand gave the hooker $20 for a blowjob. The hooker then bought $20 worth of hotdogs from him so he took the $20 and got another blowjob. Since she had the $20 again she got $20 worth of hotdogs again so the guy took the $20 and got another blowjob. This went on for a year and eventually the guy ran out of hotdogs but the hooker got fat and still had the twenty. Just goes to show you that the hooker manages her money better.

actually point of the story was that the hooker was selling a service that cost her nothing opposed to the hotdog vender who was selling a product that cost him money.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-05-2007 02:01 AM

Was just wondering fluffygrrl,
 
Had you made any money with your domains ?

This is not a cheap shot... please don't take it as such.

Later,

.

uno 07-05-2007 02:02 AM

I think you people are overloading "her" logic and common sense subroutines.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-05-2007 02:05 AM

I'm Canadian... Please type slower !

Uno perhaps I'm overlooking something... but what... ^^

.

Shey 07-05-2007 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706358)
You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Ok, maybe that did seem a bit attacking, sorry. But it really was an honest question: Are you still arguing for the sake of arguing or do you still honestly think that you have made a point? You speak of the "self appointed experts" and attack their valid points without knowing two bits about them. How are you an expert on this particular subject?

I'm not trying to be rude, I really am curious.

harvey 07-05-2007 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12703409)
www.pr0n.com.

It's undeveloped.

www.porn.com

it's parked.

www.sex.com

it's parked.

"Prime real estate" ? Bullcrap.

Let me tell you one of my favorite jokes :

Isidor and Isaac are good friends. One day Isaac passes a garage sale and buys a painting for 20 bucks.

Isidor comes to visit the same day, sees the painting, and goes, hey Isaac, that's an ugly painting you got there, sell it to me for 30$.

Done deal. Next week, Isaac comes visiting Isidor, sees the painting and goes, Isidor, I'll pay you 50 bux for that useless piece of junk over there.

Back and forth, by the end of the year the painting's market value is in the five digits. The maid accidentally drenches it in windex and ruins it. Isidor to Isaac

"What a clumsy maid you have, she;s ruined such good business for us".

They're useless folks. Wake up.

oh noes! pls somebody buy all my domains! :Oh crap

polish_aristocrat 07-05-2007 02:14 AM

fluffygrrl has to be a troll nick

uno 07-05-2007 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 12706403)
I'm Canadian... Please type slower !

Uno perhaps I'm overlooking something... but what... ^^

.

Sorry, I've been watching too much Star Trek.

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12706393)
actually point of the story was that the hooker was selling a service that cost her nothing opposed to the hotdog vender who was selling a product that cost him money.

It doesn't have to cost you something to be valuable. It merely has to be something someone desires.

And I'm not disputing type in traffic EXISTS. However, try some math.

With current 6months revenue valuation schemes, 15 millions worth of domains that presumably sold last month must produce 250k in ppc every month. With a 10 cent per click average price, that means 2.5M clicks. With a 0.5% ctr, which may well be generous for parked domains, that comes to half a billion visitors.

They do not get half a billion visitors a month.

polish_aristocrat 07-05-2007 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706434)
With a 0.5% ctr,

:error:error

wyldworx 07-05-2007 02:20 AM

It seems they have become a greater drain on the would-be investor with little understanding and time to lose.

will76 07-05-2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706434)
It doesn't have to cost you something to be valuable. It merely has to be something someone desires.

And I'm not disputing type in traffic EXISTS. However, try some math.

With current 6months revenue valuation schemes, 15 millions worth of domains that presumably sold last month must produce 250k in ppc every month. With a 10 cent per click average price, that means 2.5M clicks. With a 0.5% ctr, which may well be generous for parked domains, that comes to half a billion visitors.

They do not get half a billion visitors a month.

WTF are you talking about, i was talking about hookers and hotdogs. :warning

st0ned 07-05-2007 02:25 AM

Didn't feel like reading through everything, But if nobody has mentioned it yet porn.com sold for $9.5 million and pimproll.com will be hosting it once its developed.

"We will take our time with PORN.COM", says a representative of MXN Ltd. It does not need to transform overnight. In the meantime, we will keep it parked with PremiumTraffic.com, a leading domain name monetization company".

If you plan to signup for pimproll PLEASE pm me and ill send you my referral link :)

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 07-05-2007 02:31 AM

Yea... well I now what thats like uno
 
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Originally Posted by uno (Post 12706430)
Sorry, I've been watching too much Star Trek.

^^ Just making small talk...

.

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by st0ned (Post 12706454)
"We will take our time with PORN.COM", says a representative of MXN Ltd. It does not need to transform overnight.

what's the man said, in 5 years ?

MarcWomack 07-05-2007 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox (Post 12705582)
The generic landing pages on type in domains won't hardly make the money back that the investor put into it in the first place. I am just waiting for this whole bubble to burst, this insanity can't last forever. Same goes with Web 2.0 and overenthusiastic VCs dumping millions into "promising" projects.


Ever hear of "abitrage"? Heh, can't wait till my business partner Rick Latona sees this one. He's built an entire business making SERIOUS bank on doing exactly what you're saying doesn't make money. Then again, he might be too busy making money to bother. Normally that's my motto. Only reason I'm here now is b/c Shey showed me the thread.

MarcWomack 07-05-2007 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12706358)
You, along with the other hopefulls (tomorrow's millionaires, I'm sure) can make about one million more posts attacking me. It still won't make your delusions of grandeur part of everyday life. Sad, but true.

Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying next week off the proceeds of selling one choice domain that we bought a few years back for less than 25K. As you enjoy the magnificent view from the 47th floor tell me if you're having a delusion.

Domains are like any other business people. Some are good at it and make bank. some aren't and don't make jack. If you're one of those that failed and didn't make money don't go around trashing the entire business model. Just because you weren't smart enough to make a good profit doesn't mean no one else can. If there's wasn't a way to make money you most likely wouldn't have gotten into it in the first place and more importantly no one else would be out there doing it now!

And I've said my peace, I'm out.

sortie 07-05-2007 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12706393)
actually point of the story was that the hooker was selling a service that cost her nothing opposed to the hotdog vender who was selling a product that cost him money.

:1orglaugh

Of course, and the point of the post was to make a point that wasn't a point to mock the point made by the thread starter.

cliff notes: I purposely drew the wrong conclusion to be sarcastic.

stickyfingerz 07-05-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ConsumptionJunction (Post 12706509)
Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying next week off the proceeds of selling one choice domain that we bought a few years back for less than 25K. As you enjoy the magnificent view from the 47th floor tell me if you're having a delusion.

Domains are like any other business people. Some are good at it and make bank. some aren't and don't make jack. If you're one of those that failed and didn't make money don't go around trashing the entire business model. Just because you weren't smart enough to make a good profit doesn't mean no one else can. If there's wasn't a way to make money you most likely wouldn't have gotten into it in the first place and more importantly no one else would be out there doing it now!

And I've said my peace, I'm out.

Marc I feel like I should post a bare ass pic takin in Costa. :winkwink:

Vlad 07-05-2007 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 12706425)
fluffygrrl has to be a troll nick

lol yep , just another troll sicking for attention :)

tranza 07-05-2007 07:31 AM

Cool joke!

fluffygrrl 07-05-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ConsumptionJunction (Post 12706509)
Delusions? Tell ya what, next time you're in the Philippines come check out the $450,000 condo we're buying

It seems this needs to be personally explained to each and every single person with a vested interest.

THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY. It's not. I don't care if you're married or not, live in a condo or a house, in Texas or the Phillipines. Your personal circumstances don't interest me, and I'm pretty sure they don't interest anybody else on the whole world wide web.

That said, feel free to keep right up posting about them, altho it'd prolly better to start a blog.

Quote:

Domains are like any other business people.
And that's quite the gist of the argument. "Domainers" aren't business people, and whatever it is they do is not a business.

Against this, I've heard the argument that, hey, we made money. Other than being weak for the obvious reason that everybody's Warren Buffett on the internets, it's also weak because making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Generating wealth would, but not merely making money. I see many people have serious difficulty distinguishing these two, but then again that's not surprising. There is however sufficient material in this thread for anyone with half a brain to figure it out, so I won't repeat myself on that score.

Now, do tell us more about you and your problems, preocupations and triumphs, we really do fuckin care. And it has everything to do with the discussion at hand.

esnem 07-05-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fluffygrrl (Post 12709271)

And that's quite the gist of the argument. "Domainers" aren't business people, and whatever it is they do is not a business.

Against this, I've heard the argument that, hey, we made money. Other than being weak for the obvious reason that everybody's Warren Buffett on the internets, it's also weak because making money doesn't prove something is a business.

Generating wealth would, but not merely making money. I see many people have serious difficulty distinguishing these two, but then again that's not surprising. There is however sufficient material in this thread for anyone with half a brain to figure it out, so I won't repeat myself on that score.

you are quite possibly the dumbest person on gfy. not because you're dumb, but because you don't know how dumb you are.

Just Mike 07-05-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by esnem (Post 12709860)
you are quite possibly the dumbest person on gfy. not because you're dumb, but because you don't know how dumb you are.

thats a great line.

LOL


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