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View Poll Results: Was it self defense?
No, it was murder 7 58.33%
No, because cops can attack and you must take it 2 16.67%
Yes, the cop assaulted the driver 3 25.00%
No, but maybe the cop asked for it 3 25.00%
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:18 PM   #1
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Was this cop killed in self defense?

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...php?cl=3169506

Pause and replay this video and tell me what you think.

It appears to me that the cop walked over to a guy who puts his hands up near the driver window then the cop sprays him in the face with like a gallon of mace.

What's really strange is that the cop walks away from the vehicle after spraying the mace. Isn't the point of the mace to subdue the suspect and make the arrest?

BTW: the cop had a previous issue with the suspect.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:21 PM   #2
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Yeah that was really weird, looked like the cop was just fucking with him, It definetly didn't warrent getting his ass shot, but the whole thing looked really weird to me
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:24 PM   #3
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Yea, he should have used bullets instead of Mace...
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:25 PM   #4
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Yeah that was really weird, looked like the cop was just fucking with him, It definetly didn't warrent getting his ass shot, but the whole thing looked really weird to me

I wouldn't have pulled out a gun and shot, but then again, the cop hasn't been on my ass for a few months like in this case.

People have claimed the cop was harrasing this guy.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:27 PM   #5
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Define self defence.

That is what you must define for yourself since you would be the one defending yourself.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:28 PM   #6
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Self defense? No way. Shooting a cop because he sprayed you with pepper spray is only going to get you a visit with old sparky!
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:39 PM   #7
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Both are dead but do you think the guy who shot the guy who shot the cop will be charged for murder, i think he should
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:48 PM   #8
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Both are dead but do you think the guy who shot the guy who shot the cop will be charged for murder, i think he should
That is a very interesting thing. If the driver is deemed to have acted in self-defense then the guy who shot him was out of line.

Of course there is the factor that the shooter assumed he was helping a law officer. My response to that is he should have helped by write down the license plate and calling an ambulance instead of shooting.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:50 PM   #9
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he took the law into his own hands thats not good, if i saw a guy getting beat up and went and stuck up for him and beat the other guy im still gonna get assualt either way
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:55 PM   #10
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maybe he saw the gun and started backing away, nobody knows what exactly went on inside the shooters car but the cop and the shooter, and id be willing to bet the one that survived will never tell the whole truth
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:58 PM   #11
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no one is living please rewatch the clip, says both are dead, cop shot dead by driver, driver shot dead by witness who picked up cops gun, wow, we need crayons and paper
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:00 PM   #12
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That's Bode Miller's cousin.

The cop had assaulted him in the past and what he's screaming out the window is that he wants another officer on the scene.

That pig got what he deserved. 100% percent.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:04 PM   #13
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Damn,

Fucked up!
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:04 PM   #14
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the cop def seemed like he wasn't following ordinary procedure
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:08 PM   #15
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no one is living please rewatch the clip, says both are dead, cop shot dead by driver, driver shot dead by witness who picked up cops gun, wow, we need crayons and paper
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:15 PM   #16
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Can't really tell much from the dashboard cam... it looks to me like the cop sprayed him in the face with the spray, then walked away. The cop didn't see a gun, obviously, or he wouldn't have turned his back and walked so slowly away. Then the guy pulled out a gun and shot the cop in the back. I can't really say "self defense" because it was pepper spray but it would be interesting to see the history to see just what this cop has done to this guy in the past.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:24 PM   #17
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Both are dead but do you think the guy who shot the guy who shot the cop will be charged for murder, i think he should
No fucking way.

That happened in New Hampshire where we know how to deal with criminals.

That citizen did the right thing and no jury back home would convict him.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:00 PM   #18
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I can't believe the cop turned his back on the driver. That mistake cost him his life.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:31 PM   #19
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When the government is corrupt, it's laws are corrupt.
When the laws are corrupt, it's enforcers are corrupt.
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