In your opinion, what affiliate programs shave? - GoFuckYourself.com

swampthing · 06-23-2007, 06:45 AM

let her rip...

martinsc · 06-23-2007, 06:49 AM

i stopped shaving... i love my beard...

suesheboy · 06-23-2007, 07:45 AM

3 of us tested on program and it was just too odd the results. Among other issues we ended up getting more sales as soon as we shut OFF all the traffic.

ND

Too bad as they were hot at one point

Jman · 06-23-2007, 07:53 AM

You got 54 post and you come up with shit like that... LOLOL good luck son ;-)

tranza · 06-23-2007, 08:04 AM

Just passing by............

swampthing · 06-23-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JMan

You got 54 post and you come up with shit like that... LOLOL good luck son ;-)

whats the matter? whats wrong with the question, and whats my post count got to do with it?

IllTestYourGirls · 06-23-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

3 of us tested on program and it was just too odd the results. Among other issues we ended up getting more sales as soon as we shut OFF all the traffic.

ND

Too bad as they were hot at one point

hmm that happened to you too? I wonder what site did that to you.

Juicy D. Links · 06-23-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by swampthing

whats the matter? whats wrong with the question, and whats my post count got to do with it?

a/s/l pic?

Jman · 06-23-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

a/s/l pic?

LOLOL noice. I bet he's got soft loins

bobby666 · 06-23-2007, 08:29 AM

i shave myself once/week
that all without any special programm

RawAlex · 06-23-2007, 09:39 AM

To answer you question: All programs shave. Some intentionally, some unintentionally.

Unintentional shaving comes from loss of tracking, for various reasons. My personal guess is about 1-2% of all tracking is lost on just about every program out there.

There is also an unintentional shave where a surfer that has already joined a program in the past goes back to the site again through your links... with many programs offering a "all sites for one price" type deal, some of them won't pay for a returning customer as they would for a new customer. This is also an issue on programs that pay once for a user to signup "lifetime"... so even if you send him back today and he does something that makes money, the original webmaster and not you gets the credit.

Intentional shaving comes from everything from hardcoded links, links off, email boxes that don't pay, intentionally dropped affiliate codes, etc. Even programs using the vaunted NATS or MPA can shave you, by manipulating how your traffic moved through the tours, and such.

Overt shaving includes things like popping other sites over the top of the tour, or paying companies like Zango to run popups / filter traffic, abusive geo-filtering, etc.

When you combine all of this with programs that all use different methods for counting raws, uniques, and so on... it is almost impossible to compare program A to program B... but after 10 years of doing this, I can tell you that they all shave, just some are robbing you and some are just "oops".

suesheboy · 06-23-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

To answer you question: All programs shave. Some intentionally, some unintentionally.

Unintentional shaving comes from loss of tracking, for various reasons. My personal guess is about 1-2% of all tracking is lost on just about every program out there.

There is also an unintentional shave where a surfer that has already joined a program in the past goes back to the site again through your links... with many programs offering a "all sites for one price" type deal, some of them won't pay for a returning customer as they would for a new customer. This is also an issue on programs that pay once for a user to signup "lifetime"... so even if you send him back today and he does something that makes money, the original webmaster and not you gets the credit.

Intentional shaving comes from everything from hardcoded links, links off, email boxes that don't pay, intentionally dropped affiliate codes, etc. Even programs using the vaunted NATS or MPA can shave you, by manipulating how your traffic moved through the tours, and such.

Overt shaving includes things like popping other sites over the top of the tour, or paying companies like Zango to run popups / filter traffic, abusive geo-filtering, etc.

When you combine all of this with programs that all use different methods for counting raws, uniques, and so on... it is almost impossible to compare program A to program B... but after 10 years of doing this, I can tell you that they all shave, just some are robbing you and some are just "oops".

Well said although I predict the unintentional rate is way higher.

NBDesign · 06-23-2007, 10:07 AM

all of them of course. if they say otherwise... they are lying. It's all part of the game. Get use to it.

Casa Nova · 06-23-2007, 10:11 AM

Like the guy above stated unintentionally Im sure everybody.

nosey · 06-23-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

a/s/l pic?

Screaming · 06-23-2007, 10:24 AM

i know of 1 for a fact

ladida · 06-23-2007, 10:27 AM

All of them shave, however, those with ONLY revshare option shave less then those that are heavy on pps. If you know your traffic, and you see it's not converting, drop them in a heartbeat, don't "chase" the payout.

Dirty Dane · 06-23-2007, 10:30 AM

Opinions don't matter. Proofs do.

NBDesign · 06-23-2007, 10:31 AM

never mind

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06-23-2007, 09:39 AM	#11
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	To answer you question: All programs shave. Some intentionally, some unintentionally. Unintentional shaving comes from loss of tracking, for various reasons. My personal guess is about 1-2% of all tracking is lost on just about every program out there. There is also an unintentional shave where a surfer that has already joined a program in the past goes back to the site again through your links... with many programs offering a "all sites for one price" type deal, some of them won't pay for a returning customer as they would for a new customer. This is also an issue on programs that pay once for a user to signup "lifetime"... so even if you send him back today and he does something that makes money, the original webmaster and not you gets the credit. Intentional shaving comes from everything from hardcoded links, links off, email boxes that don't pay, intentionally dropped affiliate codes, etc. Even programs using the vaunted NATS or MPA can shave you, by manipulating how your traffic moved through the tours, and such. Overt shaving includes things like popping other sites over the top of the tour, or paying companies like Zango to run popups / filter traffic, abusive geo-filtering, etc. When you combine all of this with programs that all use different methods for counting raws, uniques, and so on... it is almost impossible to compare program A to program B... but after 10 years of doing this, I can tell you that they all shave, just some are robbing you and some are just "oops".

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ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	All of them shave, however, those with ONLY revshare option shave less then those that are heavy on pps. If you know your traffic, and you see it's not converting, drop them in a heartbeat, don't "chase" the payout. __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

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NBDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The other side of Hell Posts: 5,814	never mind __________________ Use Lensman's program and get the most for your hard earned traffic. Get Heidi for your site Here. Lots of sets to choose from. She makes a great Addition to any site. Grab one Grab All. Last edited by NBDesign; 06-23-2007 at 10:32 AM..