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p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645725)
FSC is an organization that is awesome... they work very hard for the industry we all work and make our money from ... trey just seems to think he is above us and needs to realize he is a nobody from seattle that was lucky roger let him work...

LOL

im not even from seattle and roger had 0 todo with me ever. Roger never worked for epiccash, he worked for Ian that was my partner. Roger worked for Ian on PK. get your stories right.

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645786)
got a list of what Ian has grown beyond all of us. if it were not for roger V and a programer faggot trey would be no one... FSC has been around for alot longer than any internet program i know of and they have been protecting our rights to sell what we do since the 90's. see a post count nothing more than sorry....

haha, clearly you are a little upset that your GF left you while visiting your baby with another woman in texas.

this is patheic fake nick, any reaosn why you are hiding? mr pusher?

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645861)
hey spend your money wisely ... that is always good... trey has no shit to talk cause he is gay ... i want him to come and say he is going to do something .. you faggot trey.. please...

im doing something. anything you want, just tell everyone who you really are. please.

jewpunk 06-23-2007 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12645896)
LOL

im not even from seattle and roger had 0 todo with me ever. Roger never worked for epiccash, he worked for Ian that was my partner. Roger worked for Ian on PK. get your stories right.

had nothing to

roger v had nothing to do with you cmon ... brian muir and him will say otherwise.... you joking or what ... wait IAN did not make you????

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645903)
had nothing to

roger v had nothing to do with you cmon ... brian muir and him will say otherwise.... you joking or what ... wait IAN did not make you????

why dont you ask Ian yourself?

Ian was a partner its no secret, I made epiccash, and I highly doubt Ian will disagree.

why wont you reveal who you really are? keyboard warrior? tooo scared of what everyone will think of you?

idiot

jewpunk 06-23-2007 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12645909)
why dont you ask Ian yourself?

Ian was a partner its no secret, I made epiccash, and I highly doubt Ian will disagree.

why wont you reveal who you really are? keyboard warrior? tooo scared of what everyone will think of you?

idiot

no need .. or should i say needle fuck boy .. you want to come to me you can... faggot ... told you long time ago bout that shit.... name starts with R ends with T figure it out ... you were scared when you met me and you are now .... jeff fucking saved your ass and you know it...

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645911)
no need .. or should i say needle fuck boy .. you want to come to me you can... faggot ... told you long time ago bout that shit.... name starts with R ends with T figure it out ... you were scared when you met me and you are now .... jeff fucking saved your ass and you know it...

wtf are you tlaking aobut lol

jeff who? only name that i can think of starts with r and ends with t are robert and I do not know any robert's online.

you are lying or trying to mislead me and make shit up. we have never met before becuase I dont know any jeff's in this business other than jeff from epiccash and jeff and I have never met in person.

liar.

V_RocKs 06-23-2007 04:02 AM

I am exempt from the 2257 rules....

That is worth the $300...

Penny24Seven 06-23-2007 04:21 AM

Gotta love when a program owner sells his sig

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 12645962)
Gotta love when a program owner sells his sig

ohhh that is just scandalous!!!!!!

moron

baycouples 06-23-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jewpunk (Post 12645725)
FSC is an organization that is awesome... they work very hard for the industry we all work and make our money from ... trey just seems to think he is above us and needs to realize he is a nobody from seattle that was lucky roger let him work...

Can you tell me what FSC has done for us in the last year? But don't give me BS. Tell me something that REALLY helps our businesses.

baycouples 06-23-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 12645935)
I am exempt from the 2257 rules....

That is worth the $300...

No, you're not. There are other laws that went into the effect that are tougher than 2257. And btw, from what I understand 2257 is kinna going through little by little and FSC is losing ground there.

p1mpdogg 06-23-2007 03:20 PM

bump for the FSC

baycouples 06-24-2007 04:53 PM

One more. I want to hear other opinions.

AaronM 06-24-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12644961)
i have been a member for a couple years. not a single newsletter have i ever read or even recieved.

I bet you there is some shady shit going on



I had 2 memberships. One business and one personal. I let the personal one expire. To this day I still get bulletins at both email addresses....Not that I ever read them.

Very valid point though. WTF are they doing with the money?

After Shock Media 06-24-2007 05:03 PM

I did not see them attempt to appeal the walsh act.
I did not see them say much when they started inspecting anyways despite injunction, oh yeah they already could due to previous 2257 rules, they sort of just fell back on it to covery thy ass.
I did not see them attempt to alert or ask why hollywood is now exempt from these walsh act rules.
I could go on.

pocketkangaroo 06-25-2007 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12652037)
I did not see them attempt to appeal the walsh act.
I did not see them say much when they started inspecting anyways despite injunction, oh yeah they already could due to previous 2257 rules, they sort of just fell back on it to covery thy ass.
I did not see them attempt to alert or ask why hollywood is now exempt from these walsh act rules.
I could go on.

Good questions. Any word on what they have been doing with all the money?

TheDoc 06-25-2007 06:37 AM

Welp, I didn't re-up with them.. Got scammed by them once and It won't happen again. I know the money just goes to the lawyers...

Based off the inspects they had, being a member means shit. They inspected a real 2ndary producer, and asked for records.. Enough said.

It's very clear it's an organization about money and the money is going to the lawyers.

gornyhuy 06-25-2007 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12644961)
i have been a member for a couple years. not a single newsletter have i ever read or even recieved.

I bet you there is some shady shit going on

I get a newsletter every week.:thumbsup

p1mpdogg 06-25-2007 07:49 AM

so basicall, this is a scam?

i say we should sue the FSC. theya re treating us like surfers. just rebill us for nothing.

they took the paysite model into lawyering.

scary

Barefootsies 06-25-2007 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12644955)
Yes it does, and I do not receive the mystery newsletters others talk about even though I have been a member.

true dat


:disgust

SmokeyTheBear 06-25-2007 10:35 AM

i wouldnt mind hearing what they are doing lately..

Barefootsies 06-25-2007 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 12645239)
Sex sells

:disgust

suesheboy 06-25-2007 10:41 AM

are they a 501.3c if so they have to disclose everything they collect and how they spend it.

CE_Rashaan 06-25-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 12654730)
so basicall, this is a scam?

i say we should sue the FSC. theya re treating us like surfers. just rebill us for nothing.

they took the paysite model into lawyering.

scary


Ok..here are my :2 cents:. As many know I used to work at FSC...
I can only comment on what happened and what I saw during my tenure there. Also remember that FSC is not the most TECH SAVY organization out there. They are a product of the OG video side of this thing of ours and trying to adapt to there members techie ways isnt that ezy.

Despite the lack of newsletters spoken about in this thread... they do go out on a regular basis. If you are a member and you are not recieving them contact them and ask them to update the NEWSLETTER email list. As this is most likely diffrent from the billing contact list.

In regards to the CASH just about all of it is spent on the LAWYERS and the LOBBIESTS. THe hours these teams put into cases like COPA, 2257, .xxx, WALSH ACT, etc... are tremendous and this is pre-trial hours we are talking.Much research and prep. from countless LAWYERS and PARALEGALs goes into this and these people dont work for free but many work at reduced rates for the FSC.

Before I departed there were talks of a "white sheet" was beging prepared and sent out to memebrs quarterly so they can see an exact reporting of how their donations are being spent.... Dont know if it every went into effect

CE_Rashaan 06-25-2007 11:15 AM

Also FSC is not a regular non-profit entity. You can write of the donations as a business expense but not a complete write off like donating to MultipleScilrosis or Breast Cancer.

pornguy 06-25-2007 11:25 AM

If you want an answer to your question, its actually simple. They are made up of attorneys, Which attorney do you know that does not over charge, over bill and lie his fucking ass off about it.

I am willing to bet that if you did the math on thier billing hours, you would see that every one of the attorneys is at least 220 years old.

tranza 06-25-2007 11:59 AM

Just passing by........

Juilan 07-06-2007 09:09 PM

What have they done for us lately?

p1mpdogg 07-09-2007 09:13 PM

bump for the FSC

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