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Read the book sick, actually the costs are much cheaper when the goverment runs it. The Chairman of united health care gave himself a half billion dollar bonus,the government doesnt give bonuses and other bullshit like Tv advertising,print. The Iraq war has been so expensive because they have been privatizing this war.Comment
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The problem is in most countries the government works for the people because they fear getting tossed on their ass. In the US the government controls the people for the most part. Canada is getting closer to this as well.The anti-government argument doesn't stack here. Sure we get taxed a little more, but in the long run we are better off. Sure its more work for your government to run the health system, but what the hell do you pay your taxes for?
If one thing chills me to the bone, its the idea that our health system is taken out of the hands of our government, even it isn't perfect.
Strange that nobody in this poll who has universal health cover wants it changed.
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As posted above by another person this link shows you the per capita spent on health care by the governments of the America's.
http://www.who.int/whosis/database/c...nguage=english
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I dont want to pay for all you fatties ...
We pay people not to work and get fat and have babies with welfare, and now you want us to pay for their bad health as well ?Comment
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You already pay twice that per person than that of Canada with your tax payers dollars and thats only for a fraction of your population.
Under the universal system you would be down 40% at least in money spent over time. There would be time where it would be more costly due to trying to get people that neglected their health due under the old system to get healthier and practicing preventative medicine.
People who say they don't want to pay for other people, you already do. In taxes you pay more than any other country per capita. In insurance costs you pay more every couple years in dues for every person in your HMO that got very sick and cost them more money then they planned for their 4th quarter profits.XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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Let me share another story with you, my Dad is a republican and he was always people going broke from health care its liberal bullshit. My Dad had started with a new company 5 months ago,did so well they had him interview for a management job ( my dad works in the ins industry).Well then the cancer came,he gets a call from his boss at the sales meeting we all prayed for you and in the next breath HR has to talk to you. Hr says we are putting you on short term disability(6 weeks) then your terminated and your health insurance is canceled you can cobra if you want. Now he is lucky he is being switched to my moms plan.Now in a family where the hubby only works, they are in a world of shit in the middle of cancer and God only knows what the cobra would of cost. This really opened his eyes.Comment
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I'm amazed by this response because i know your not some young girl that doesn't know the ways of the world.
lets say his Mom hasn't worked in 5-10-15 years and has been raising kids and taking care of the house. she is in her 50's now. you think she can just run out and get a job that will not only pay all there bills but also allow her to take care of her sick husband. hell it took him 30-40 years to get to where they are in life, I'm sure she can run out with little to no work experience or skills and pick up right where he left off.
And yes the Cobra would be cheaper but if you are a middle class person living basically paycheck to paycheck like most middle class your not going to be able to afford the Cobra either. many families lose everything they've worked for because of that exact situation his parents are in.
Tony ... I wish your dad the best .. in most countries a man works all his life and comes down with an illness like that and his government and countrymen would make sure he doesn't lose what he's worked for and can get the treatment he needs without debt and worry.Last edited by MikeVega; 06-21-2007, 07:20 PM.
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Can't say about Canada, but smell a few Euro countries are sliding that way as well - but nothing like the US. There would be riots in the streets if they pushed their luck 
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