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ControlThy 08-30-2002 03:44 AM

We need very strict immigration laws to protect ourselves from the thousands of muslims coming into our countries.

"Native" inhabitants of Europe; lets make babies now and outgrow the muslims!

Brown Bear 08-30-2002 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by ControlThy
We need very strict immigration laws to protect ourselves from the thousands of muslims coming into our countries.

"Native" inhabitants of Europe; lets make babies now and outgrow the muslims!

Too bad thats not gonna happen and eventually Europe will be a kingdom of Islam.

Milton 08-30-2002 04:38 AM

they did not tryed to hijack a person in the muslic group that going to a party in England had a GUN in a bag , who knows if he shuld hihack it or not.

Joe Sixpack 08-30-2002 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by Milton
they did not tryed to hijack a person in the muslic group that going to a party in England had a GUN in a bag , who knows if he shuld hihack it or not.
No spreaka Engrish?

:1orglaugh

12clicks 08-30-2002 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Milton
they did not tryed to hijack a person in the muslic group that going to a party in England had a GUN in a bag , who knows if he shuld hihack it or not.
muslims about peace they claim, why gun need he?

ControlThy 08-30-2002 04:58 AM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear


Too bad thats not gonna happen and eventually Europe will be a kingdom of Islam.

Its not going to happen. Allready people are seeing the effects of "flexible" immigration laws, they will start bitching about how the cities are filled with non-natives - crime is rising and they will connect the dots.

Then a right minded individual will stand up and create a political party to rid the EU of the muslim threat.

It has always been like that, look at other countries.

KingK7 08-30-2002 05:06 AM

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Originally posted by Milton
they did not tryed to hijack a person in the muslic group that going to a party in England had a GUN in a bag , who knows if he shuld hihack it or not.
A muslim boarding a plane with a gun, and you are not sure he was attempting to hijack the plane...

Nigga please...

KingK7 08-30-2002 05:08 AM

There, 300 posts.

Milton 08-30-2002 06:13 AM

King they was a meeting in England (muslim comeference) and it just happend that 30-40 muslims was heding too England from Vasteras (ryan Air flying to england very cheap) , and one of they who going there ha da gun in there bag when they channed the bags before boarding the plane. So the polise told everyone too steep out of the plane and they talked too the people that have been on the plane, and nothing says they shuld Hijack the plane.

And btw King why are you so hatefull against muslims?
Read the whole story in swedish instead of claming bad things, you only put gasoline too a wish hunt thats going on in this world against muslims.

But you might not have been outside Vientam, so sorry for that, islam is the biggest religon in this world .
if it had been 30 catolic going to Dublin i dubt they shuld do this security matters.

hahmike 08-30-2002 06:22 AM

milton you have absolutely NO clue at all. why do you even speak?

christianity is the world's largest religion with around 2 billion "members".
http://www.bobhoffman.com/religions/christianity.html
and no, that site isn't biased... it gives information on ALL the major religions.

also:
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there was no meeting / conference neither in Birmingham or in the whole of Midlands this weekend, this coming from the press spokesman of the central mosque in Birmingham.
that is coming from the the press spokesman of the central mosque, who IS a muslim.


eat it up.

[Labret] 08-30-2002 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Sjayne

"We hope that this is not a spectre of things to come and we will continue to campaign for the rights of White folk of European descent worldwide. Only by creating a Government here in the UK which has as its main concern the indigenous folk of European descent can we hope to win global respect and stop the racially motivated horrors taking place in Southern Africa."

No, that is not racist language at all.



I was not saying the BNP is not racist, I am all too familiar with the BNP stance. But they are nothing like the Klan.

And so what if they are "racist".

Can you tell me exactly what is wrong with being a "racist"?

Being a racist or a nationalist does not automatically imply someone is a supremacist. It does not mean you have to hate other races or cultures.

Nearly every non-western culture on the planet practices what could only be described as racism. A lefty so quick to condemn a ethnic Eruopean who doesnt want his children marrying outside their culture will applaud Native Americans who demand the same thing of their children. I lived in areas of SE Alaska with heavy native populations, and they are as racist as any neo-Nazi you will ever meet. But would anyone dare call them racist? No. When you are non White and racist, it is called cultural preservation and cultural pride.

Marrying gaijin in Japan will get you ostracized. Would you call the Japanese man who demands his children marry within their culture a racist? Ever heard a horror story of dating a Jewish American Princess? Ever been a haolie in Hawaii? And I can guarantee you that you would not want to be the white guy in Detroit who likes black girls or Arab girls. An Arab in Dearborn is a racist the likes you have never seen. I doubt you have met an Arab girl in your life who dates outside her culture / race. I live in an area of what could only be described as the largest Arab population in the United States, and you will not see an Arab girl with a white or black guy. They immigrate, but they do not integrate, and they have no interest in integrating. And I get the feeling it is the same way in Europe. Ethnic Europeans have no monopoly on racist leanings.

Western culture was so quick to embrace multiculturalism and force it down our childrens throats, yet we are the only ones who practice it and I find that more than just mildly ironic.

What you call racism is the norm in the majority of the world. Racism is natural. It is so natural that laws have to be made in order to keep people from practicing it. Desegregation was a joke. People will naturally segregate themselves. Do the non-western immigrants in Europe segregate themselves like they do over here? They have no interest in being "European". They are merely exporting their culture to your shores.

Again, there is nothing wrong with being a racist. I dont care if the Arab down the street does not allow his daughters to date outside their culture. Why the fuck should I? He is trying to preserve his culture and I see nothing wrong with that. Its been done for 10s of thousands of years.

There is a terrible double standard in the world.

And if I am a racist because I love my European heritage and culture and would like to see it preserved and not forcibly thrown into the melting pot... then so be it. I am a racist. I like being white. I am proud of my Irish and Dutch ancestors. And if I choose to only date within my culture, I should not be labeled a hatemonger. There is no hate involved.

KingK7 08-30-2002 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by Milton
And btw King why are you so hatefull against muslims?
Read the whole story in swedish instead of claming bad things, you only put gasoline too a wish hunt thats going on in this world against muslims.

But you might not have been outside Vientam, so sorry for that, islam is the biggest religon in this world .

First, to answer why I am so hateful against muslims...
I feel they and their religion / way of life are a threat to western civilization. They can not be integrated, no matter how much you and your socialist-palestine-loving politicians claim so.
There are a few other reasons too.
And to top it all off, I had to spend 3 days in a fucking church in Canada on sept. 11th last year, and missed a party in Dallas.
Just for THAT, I hope they all die, all of them.

Second, I already read the story in swedish, if you read this entire thread ( your 2nd grade understanding of the english language might have been an obstacle here ), you would have seen I already have.

Third... You really think I am in Vietnam, huh?

:1orglaugh
(Also goes back to my second point, besides your obvious plain stupidity)

Fourth, you should maybe consider finishing high school before entering this biz. Oh and btw, "Milton"... isnt that rich, haha.

Go trade some warez and post some TGP galleries.

KingK7 08-30-2002 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

I doubt you have met an Arab girl in your life who dates outside her culture / race. I live in an area of what could only be described as the largest Arab population in the United States, and you will not see an Arab girl with a white or black guy. They immigrate, but they do not integrate, and they have no interest in integrating. And I get the feeling it is the same way in Europe. Ethnic Europeans have no monopoly on racist leanings.
[/B]
There has been a few isolated incidents, with muslim girls dating swedish guys.
The muslim (kurd) girl's father tends to not like that, and blow her head clean off, or string her up in the roof-lamp, to make it look like she hung herself.
Faced with this in court, they will lie through their teeth though.
That will never cease to amaze me, how these fuckers can lie so blatantly, when there is so much evidence it is sickening.

Frank W 08-30-2002 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by twistyneck


Not if we follow my plan. Kill them all. Every last one of them. Problem solved.

Colonel Kurtz?

bellskids 08-30-2002 07:44 AM

australia isnt a major player when it comes to Oil. Nothing will happen to oz.

Sjayne 08-30-2002 08:13 AM

Source: Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: 'rA-"si-z&m also -"shi-
Function: noun
Date: 1936
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination



Oh and where did I say it was okay for nonwhites to be racist? I never did...which by the way doesn't make it right for whites.


Racism doesn't just boil down to who you 'let' your daughter date..it isn't just about breeding.

I am sure the French and the English LOVE knowing they have the same culture just because they share the same colour skin. Which is stupid thing anyway because how are you anymore Irish than a black person that is born and raised *in* Ireland. Afterall Irish reffers to people from a landmass. Just because one of your relatives once had sex there doesn't mean that YOU are Irish. It just means that someone in your blood line was Irish.

[Labret] 08-30-2002 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by Sjayne
Just because one of your relatives once had sex there doesn't mean that YOU are Irish. It just means that someone in your blood line was Irish.
Its called heritage. Im about as "Irish" as the black guy who lives next door to me.

As for

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I am sure the French and the English LOVE knowing they have the same culture just because they share the same colour skin



Yeah, thats it.


They all share a common ancestor, they are all from the same stock whether they like to admit it or not.

But then again, arent we all just one big race? the human race, descended from one common mitochondrial Eve? I smell it coming...

Sjayne 08-30-2002 08:38 AM

No it is called DNA. I fully understand how the nationality of your anncestors can effect your way of living. I, for example, am originally from Pennsylvania and part of my family is of very rich Pennsylvania Dutch (German) stock. It meant that I grew up eating food that others not from the PA Dutch background would think is weird or 'gross'. In fact, I have had that said to me a lot since living in England. When I want to feel a bit more PA Dutch I go over to Belgium or Germany and have some German food.

Germans and British are both white Europeans (I have both in me..almost an equal split) but their cultures are very different. Their mannerisms are different..there sense of humours are different..etc.

If it followed that just because they came from the same stock they were the same culture they would have grown to be the same regardless of the geographical differences. It is not the DNA that makes your culture it is the society you are raised in and how those traits are handed down.

Also, culture changes through out time. The UK, had relatively little non-white immigration until modern times. Yet read a Dickens book and compare it to something from pre ww2 and it is clear that even in that time period what is meant to be British had changed.

So..what exact time period Irish (for example) do you carry with you? Or is it just that DNA of someone who once lived in Ireland that you have?

Big deal the English and the French both come from the same stock..they are not the same culture. Just as American culture is not the same as the Swiss..to pluck a name out of the air.

Why is what your anncesters WERE any more important than what you ARE?

Sjayne 08-30-2002 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


But then again, arent we all just one big race? the human race, descended from one common mitochondrial Eve? I smell it coming... [/B]
Well as that bit was added while I was writing I didn't see it. No, you won't get that from me. I'm not the religious type.

[Labret] 08-30-2002 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Sjayne


Well as that bit was added while I was writing I didn't see it. No, you won't get that from me. I'm not the religious type.

Its not a religious theory. Not in the slightest. Its the same take on the Out of Africa theory everyone likes to push these days cept they like to say we all descended from a single woman in Africa. So that we all are technically related. Horse shit, but the lefties love it.

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Why is what your anncesters WERE any more important than what you ARE?



Why does anyone study history? Why does anyone study their genealogy? Why is cultural history important to anyone?

That one seems fairly obvious.

Sjayne 08-30-2002 09:28 AM

and you think no one in your entire anccestory miexed with someone of a different culture?


Regardless..as this started with you suggesting Hitler was doing a favour..it wasn't interracial breeding I was talking about at first. You are white..fine be white. No one is forcing you to go breed with anyone. Nor should they. I could care less who breeds with who.

However, I do care about bigotry..and in the case of Hitler evil and found it amazingly sad that so many people sit in the shadows and let little praisings of Hitler go by..no matter how seemingly minor. Especially in light of a European political climate that is seeing the extreme right (not the american sense of the right wing) becoming a strong force.

So, you honestly can talk until your whiter than white face turns blue about how pure our bloodlines should be but I for one am never going to agree with you.

Oh..and you know if this guy in this case was trying to hijack then take him down with all the force needed. Don't anyone think I am defending that person or any idividuals connected to him. It is the way stories like these are becomming an excuse for every hateful bigot to come out of the wood work with extreme generalisations about whole races..creeds..cultures..that pisses me off.

Paraphrase: Some muslim fathers hate their daughters dating white men and get violent. - oh like no white father has ever gotten seriously violent when their daughter dated a black man. Please..there are fucked up people everywhere regardless.

Simple summing up for those with low attention spans:

-Bad people out
-Good People In
-One or two or even 300 bad people in a race, religion or creed doesn't make every person in that race, religion or creed fall into the bad people camp
-Being distantly related to someone from a country doesn't make you fall into the good.

[Labret] 08-30-2002 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Sjayne

Especially in light of a European political climate that is seeing the extreme right (not the american sense of the right wing) becoming a strong force.



Why is that?

Milton 08-30-2002 09:36 AM

Lambert are you afraid of new things? why you moved to sweden if you are? go back to denmark fucking nasi. i have no problem with other people, and i am pure swedish.
but i understand what the problem is, the problem is not that the people is muslims or arabs the problem is that the socity dont help people too intergrate in the socity. look at america They have succes with intergration! Move back to Denmark Lambert we dont need you here i dont like danish people :D they are blind eyed

[Labret] 08-30-2002 09:37 AM

Brilliant.

KingK7 08-30-2002 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Milton
Lambert are you afraid of new things? why you moved to sweden if you are? go back to denmark fucking nasi. i have no problem with other people, and i am pure swedish.
but i understand what the problem is, the problem is not that the people is muslims or arabs the problem is that the socity dont help people too intergrate in the socity. look at america They have succes with intergration! Move back to Denmark Lambert we dont need you here i dont like danish people :D they are blind eyed

Oh man...
You have some serious fucking problems bitch.

[Labret] 08-30-2002 09:47 AM

and just to clear one thing up. I dont believe in race. All the little physical characteristics that classicaly define race are nothing more than climatic adaptions. Race is a human construct. Thats why I use the term culture.

When I say "culture" I am not talking about the customs and foods etc that set one group apart from another, those are all arbitrary. I am speaking of lines. Asian, African, Native American, European. Your vision of culture can can change from city to city. I am talking about the underlying traits that are common to each stock.

Pathfinder 08-30-2002 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]


I was not saying the BNP is not racist, I am all too familiar with the BNP stance. But they are nothing like the Klan.

And so what if they are "racist".

Can you tell me exactly what is wrong with being a "racist"?

Being a racist or a nationalist does not automatically imply someone is a supremacist. It does not mean you have to hate other races or cultures.

Nearly every non-western culture on the planet practices what could only be described as racism. A lefty so quick to condemn a ethnic Eruopean who doesnt want his children marrying outside their culture will applaud Native Americans who demand the same thing of their children. I lived in areas of SE Alaska with heavy native populations, and they are as racist as any neo-Nazi you will ever meet. But would anyone dare call them racist? No. When you are non White and racist, it is called cultural preservation and cultural pride.

Marrying gaijin in Japan will get you ostracized. Would you call the Japanese man who demands his children marry within their culture a racist? Ever heard a horror story of dating a Jewish American Princess? Ever been a haolie in Hawaii? And I can guarantee you that you would not want to be the white guy in Detroit who likes black girls or Arab girls. An Arab in Dearborn is a racist the likes you have never seen. I doubt you have met an Arab girl in your life who dates outside her culture / race. I live in an area of what could only be described as the largest Arab population in the United States, and you will not see an Arab girl with a white or black guy. They immigrate, but they do not integrate, and they have no interest in integrating. And I get the feeling it is the same way in Europe. Ethnic Europeans have no monopoly on racist leanings.

Western culture was so quick to embrace multiculturalism and force it down our childrens throats, yet we are the only ones who practice it and I find that more than just mildly ironic.

What you call racism is the norm in the majority of the world. Racism is natural. It is so natural that laws have to be made in order to keep people from practicing it. Desegregation was a joke. People will naturally segregate themselves. Do the non-western immigrants in Europe segregate themselves like they do over here? They have no interest in being "European". They are merely exporting their culture to your shores.

Again, there is nothing wrong with being a racist. I dont care if the Arab down the street does not allow his daughters to date outside their culture. Why the fuck should I? He is trying to preserve his culture and I see nothing wrong with that. Its been done for 10s of thousands of years.

There is a terrible double standard in the world.

And if I am a racist because I love my European heritage and culture and would like to see it preserved and not forcibly thrown into the melting pot... then so be it. I am a racist. I like being white. I am proud of my Irish and Dutch ancestors. And if I choose to only date within my culture, I should not be labeled a hatemonger. There is no hate involved. [/B]
Good post [Labret]. I concur with most of the points made.

There are dictionary definitions of words and then there are common usage of words.

The words racist, bigot, prejudice, nationalist, seem to get thrown into the same pot.

I am a decendent of Germans (several generations past). I am caucasion. I like being a caucasion. I am an American. I like being an American. I like to consider myself as being a nationalist.

I live in the most populated state in the Union (California). About two years ago caucasions, officially, became a minority in California.

Based upon projections, it will not be long before caucasions are are a minority in America.

I do not like this trend.

If any of the above gives cause for someone to label me a racist, I then will wear the label with pride.

Pathfinder 08-30-2002 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Then we will thank them.

He shouldn't be allowed to make movies.

It's not right.

A FUS should not be allowed to exist. It's not right.

Mr.Fiction 08-30-2002 10:07 AM

http://www.adherents.com/rel_pie.gif

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

[Labret] 08-30-2002 10:25 AM

Like half the people who claim to be Christian are really christian.

Christianity is a convenience religion now. A label.

Pathfinder 08-30-2002 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
Like half the people who claim to be Christian are really christian.

Christianity is a convenience religion now. A label.

I conur. By the way [Labret], I am interested in knowing your definition of a "Nationalist".

[Labret] 08-30-2002 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Pathfinder


I conur. By the way [Labret], I am interested in knowing your definition of a "Nationalist".

Thats a tough one. I will quote others that I think best sum it up. Off the top of my head I would bumble an otherwise difficult subject matter.

Anthony Smith
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the ideological movement for the attainment and maintenance of autonomy, cohesion, and individuality for a social group, some of whose members conceive it to be an actual or potential nation."



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A common postulated interrelationship - a "blood" bond between members. This blood relationship may be actual, but more often, it derives from myth.


A shared cultural heritage. This heritage, and particularly the cultural artifacts (and sometimes also, institutional structures) that it has created, represents the "patrimony" of the nation, and is often invested with considerable sentimental value, to the extent that attacks on it are responded to with violent emotion.


Linguistic coherence, in the form of one or more languages identified with the national identity. The more unique or difficult these languages are, the stronger the emotional attachment to them, as something that must be defended. In the world of mass telecommunications and the omnipresence of English as a lingua franca, bitter struggles are taking place all over the world to protect the national languages (most notably, in Iceland and France).


A sense of identification by members with the nation. The idea of national affiliation is a deep-rooted one in the human psyche, and members of a nation suffer a very visceral response to any threat against it, real or perceived.


Pathfinder 08-30-2002 12:10 PM

Nationalist=
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A sense of identification by members with the nation. The idea of national affiliation is a deep-rooted one in the human psyche, and members of a nation suffer a very visceral response to any threat against it, real or perceived.
That pretty much explains it for me and my thinking.


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