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  • emjay
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    • Dec 2004
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    USA no longer world's biggest pollutor - China is...

    China is now building about two power stations every week, the top climate change official at the UK Foreign Office, John Ashton, has said.

    He said there was no point blaming China for rising global CO2 emissions.

    Rich nations had to set an example of low-carbon development for China to follow, Mr Ashton told the BBC.

    His statement came as a new report suggested that China may have already become the world's biggest polluter - much earlier than expected.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/6769743.stm
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    • Jace
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      • Jan 2004
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      #2
      two power stations a week?

      wtf?

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        • emjay
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          • Dec 2004
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          [QUOTE=Jace;12629029]two power stations a week?



          Yes, I was a bit shocked/surprised with that stat.

          And they seem to dig the internal combustion engine too!

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            • everestcash
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              #4
              china rulez!

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                • King Adam
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                  • Jul 2003
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                  Aren't they suppoed to have a cap on how many kids they can pop out. It seems they are growing way too fast.

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                    • emjay
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                      • Dec 2004
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by King Adam
                      Aren't they suppoed to have a cap on how many kids they can pop out. It seems they are growing way too fast.
                      Correct they have a "one child per family" policy. Not sure what happens if you concieve twins...
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                        • sirkakashi08
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                          yeah! and they have to lead a campaign to lessen pollution.
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                            • Dirty Dane
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                              #8
                              Is that per capita?

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                                • Barefootsies
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                                  • Feb 2005
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                                  #9
                                  Correct. No use blaming them.

                                  The "west" or industrialized countries are the one's who've been polluting for years, and caused a lot of the grief (supposedly according to scientists) so why blame the newest addition to the polluting mass.

                                  Those who've been leading the way polluting, need to lead the way in green.

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                                    • BlueDesignStudios
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                                      #10
                                      they have more ppl, pollution comparisons should be done on a per capita basis

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                                        • emjay
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                                          • Dec 2004
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Dirty Dane
                                          Is that per capita?
                                          "Let us not forget that the average Chinese emits just 3.5 tonnes of CO2 per year, whereas Britons emit nearly 10 tonnes and Americans 20 tonnes."
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                                            • stev0
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                                              • Aug 2003
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                                              #12
                                              They have over 20 times more people than the US... I would hope they pollute more.

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                                                • stickyfingerz
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                                                  Oh noes now we are all going to melt from da global warmings..

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                                                    • eMonk
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                                                      #14
                                                      asians are taking over the world. breed with one now & become part of history.

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                                                        • stickyfingerz
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by MUNK
                                                          asians are taking over the world. breed with one now & become part of history.
                                                          Already did that hehe.

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                                                            • notabook
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                              Oh noes now we are all going to melt from da global warmings..
                                                              Won't someone please think of the polar bears!

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                                                                • shake
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                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by emjay
                                                                  Correct they have a "one child per family" policy. Not sure what happens if you concieve twins...
                                                                  I have some friends that lived there for a year - some scary shit can happen if you have more than one kid, not sure about twins either though.
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                                                                    • stickyfingerz
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by notabook
                                                                      Won't someone please think of the polar bears!
                                                                      They are drowning you know.. Poor guys can only swim 60 to 80 miles at a time.

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                                                                        • notabook
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                                                                          • Apr 2006
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                          They are drowning you know.. Poor guys can only swim 60 to 80 miles at a time.
                                                                          Poor little fellers. Global warming shouldn?t ah? done that. What's next... penguins?

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                                                                            • ZoneMaster
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                                                                              • Jun 2007
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by emjay
                                                                              USA no longer world's biggest pollutor - China is...
                                                                              Pro rata population is probably relevant on this type of stat..

                                                                              On eg oil - China has 21% of world population but comsumes 8% of annual production of oil. By comparison, the US has only about 5% of the world's population but consumes 25% of annual oil production.

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                                                                                • Cardinal_Sin
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                                                                                  • Apr 2007
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by ZoneMaster
                                                                                  Pro rata population is probably relevant on this type of stat..

                                                                                  On eg oil - China has 21% of world population but comsumes 8% of annual production of oil. By comparison, the US has only about 5% of the world's population but consumes 25% of annual oil production.
                                                                                  amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.

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                                                                                    • ZoneMaster
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                                                                                      • Jun 2007
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Cardinal_Sin
                                                                                      amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.
                                                                                      Sure.. the effects of a reduction in oil consumption would also ripple out to other areas as well.

                                                                                      Currently oil imports account for almost 50% of the trade deficit. Cars consume around 45% of those oil imports (while public transport uses 25% and the balance going to industry). Any reduction in oil consumption would obviously aid the economic outlook.

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                                                                                        • emjay
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Cardinal_Sin
                                                                                          amd until they shove the price up to a realistic 5-6 bucks a gallon, manufacturors will still keep pumping out 10 mile per gallon gas guzzling motors.

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                                                                                            • tony299
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                                                                                              Well we moved most of our industry over there what do you expect.

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                                                                                                • emjay
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                  Well we moved most of our industry over there what do you expect.
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                                                                                                    • darling2
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                                                                                                      Too bad they are not building more nuclear power plants, which are CO2 free. They seem to prefer cheap coal which pollutes a lot more.

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                                                                                                        • notabook
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          We're no longer #1 =( =( =( And China is killing more polar bears than we are

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                                                                                                            • emjay
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                                                                                                              Originally posted by darling2
                                                                                                              Too bad they are not building more nuclear power plants, which are CO2 free. They seem to prefer cheap coal which pollutes a lot more.
                                                                                                              I'm still trying to get used to that stat. Two power stations a week...

                                                                                                              Anyone know how many power stations US has?
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                                                                                                                • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                                                                  China is an ecological nightmare.
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                                                                                                                    • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                                                                                      why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.

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                                                                                                                        • emjay
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                                                          China is an ecological nightmare.
                                                                                                                          Written in 2002:

                                                                                                                          "As yet, there are only 16 million cars in China - not many for a country with 1.3 billion people - and only one-tenth of one per cent of the Chinese people will be buying a car this year.

                                                                                                                          But industry officials enthuse about a 20% rise in sales last year and a 30% sales rise during the first four months of this year.

                                                                                                                          And looking ahead, sales growth will be given further shots in the arm, partly by a slew of government initiatives, but also by the country's rapid economic growth and, eventually, by loans for private car buyers from both car manufacturers and finance houses.

                                                                                                                          "There seems to be no end to growth here," Automotive Resources Asia's Michael Dunne told BBC News Online.

                                                                                                                          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2026707.stm
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                                                                                                                            • emjay
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                              why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.
                                                                                                                              lol yeah what happened to the next ice age? Maybe the two will cancel each other out...
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                                                                                                                                  Remember the Ice Age? If not for global warming, that's where we'd be right now!!!
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                                                                                                                                    • Loryn
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                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                                                                                      why do you think the global warming scare is here? To try to slow down China and steal your money by making global warming taxes. Then 30 years from now they will all say... Shit I guess we were wrong about that global warming thing. Much like they did with global freezing.
                                                                                                                                      Yeah I think the freezing thing was the 60's fad!

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                                                                                                                                        • emjay
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by emjay
                                                                                                                                          I'm still trying to get used to that stat. Two power stations a week...

                                                                                                                                          Anyone know how many power stations US has?
                                                                                                                                          According to http://www.animatedsoftware.com/envi.../nukelist1.htm
                                                                                                                                          US

                                                                                                                                          there are more than 100 nuke power plants in USA

                                                                                                                                          no coal ones?
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                                                                                                                                            • Spiegelau
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              We Americans better get our asses in gear!

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                                                                                                                                                • pawsregd
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                                                                                                                                                  Wow, no shit

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