50 drama points

Keyser (from epass) isn't online right now. When he's back hopefully he'll confirm that the contact info for the 2 epass accounts (the one Kandah sent money too, and the one HEAT said he uses) are identical. Maybe Keyser can't share that confidential information in a public forum.. i don't know. But if he (keyser) wants to protect GFY/epass from fraud he'll take a look. Rapmaster i appreciate your wanting to be certain before making any decision, but i guarantee you 100% this a very clear cut case of fraud. If it weren't HEAT would be willing to accept a small epass payment from me, and confirm the amount. That would prove without any uncertainty that he is NOT the culprit.. but he won't do that. He spins crap instead. Anyway.. i really have to do some work today, so gotta run.. be careful GFY.

There have been other threads in the past with scammers hitting up poster of threads asking for a paypal - ePassporte exchange or similar.
They normally have a new nine digit ICQ and use the nick name of a know long time GFY poster.
I suspect a scammer used Heats nick name to complete the transactions one eight.
It have happened before and will probably happen again.

Never send money to someone you don't know or make sure they are who they say they are.

Our policy is that we do not give out information about our card holders.

That's fine, you don't have to give out any information. BUT PLEASE COMPARE THE CONTACT INFO FOR THE 2 EPASS ACCOUNTS LISTED IN THIS THREAD. You'll see they are identical. And i think you owe it to epass and GFY users to close this account.

That's all i want. I don't care if all of GFY believes this scammer or not. I want the scamming to stop, and you should too.

my REAL only one epass account name is 'lbhkorn'
send the moeny I will confirm you right now stupud fucker.

We have no reason to believe HEAT is the same person that scammed one eight

Heat, is your icq name muse?

These are both from today:

muse [11:48 AM]:
my epass account name is flashcash_wm2603

muse [1:26 PM]:
my REAL only one epass account name is 'lbhkorn'

I think someone's fucking with you one eight. I dont know HEAT or you but after seeing Michael's reply it looks like you got taken for a ride. Happens to the best of us, 5 years ago I bought some traffic off a dude and he disappeared.

I told you a fake account name.
because I didn't contact Kandah ans ask what account he made the payment to.
so I worried you're gonna pull a stupid trick with my real account name.

so send me test money ASAP and I will confirm you right now. you fucking loser.

No. Muse (and his buddies?) have this all set up. They know gfy won't do anything, and epass won't publish any info. So he/they can safely and profitably continue to scam.

Anyhow, I've done what i can to share information.. i've got to get back to what's important.

you deined to send test money and start complaining I don't use screen name 'HEAT' on icq??
NOW You are a GFY's PROVEN stupid fool:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You use the GFY nick HEAT and the ICQ nick MUSE. Here's where you confirmed that scamming, lying POS:

Jonah [1:55 PM]:
are you HEAT on gfy?
muse [1:55 PM]:
yeah. are youha fool that you got scammed??

you just hit me 5 mins ago and ask me HEAT is my GFY nick.
is that confirmming that im the scammer??????:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

one eight, you are so confused, once a scammer watching gfy sees that a transaction is about to happen they create a new icq with the same name and pretend to be that person. I would be looking at Kandah before anyone, he doesn't exactly have a squeaky clean rep.

What about the test epass transfer? No? ok so what kind of excuse you trying make now? lol . Now I can understand why you are got scammed so easily by that scammer.

I don't understand.. Kandah definitely sent the $, and heat confirmed receiving it. Epass can also confirm that the payment was, in fact, sent. There is no evidence that Kandah did anything wrong.

Well was it that domain?


He could have just easily picked any gfy nick and said it was him.

Why don't you post the original ICQ conversation where this guy offered to sell you the domain? That might be useful.

To prove it was him you can:
1)prove that it was (the real) HEAT you made the deal with on ICQ
2)Prove that the ICQ account you sent the money to is connected with HEAT
3)Provide evidence showing that this wasn;t a random person simply using HEATs identity

Hopefully epass can clear things up for you either way

Good advice though - I'm gonna try not to post any information about deals in the future

I asked for that test transfer 5 hours ago. By now you've had time to set up whatever bullshit you need to keep GFY confused. We both know exactly what happened here. End of story.

GFY- Believe me or don't, I don't care. No one has EVER accused me of scamming before and I've bought/sold tons of domains, software, sites, etc. from users of this site. I can post stats, receipts, or anything else. I do volume business and generate hundreds of sales daily. Take my word for it, or don't.. i don't care anymore i've given up on policing gfy- It takes a real community effort, and this community won't support that.

Hey HEAT, do you still have some spots open for partner accounts at your TGP??

Hit me up bro, stop wasting your time with this low-life one eight.

To prove it was him you can:
1)prove that it was (the real) HEAT you made the deal with on ICQ

That doesn't prove it was him, he can easily make new icq accounts/deny having add'l icq accounts.

2)Prove that the ICQ account you sent the money to is connected with HEAT

Also impossible.

3)Provide evidence showing that this wasn;t a random person simply using HEATs identity

Also impossible.

Hopefully epass can clear things up for you either way

Thanks.

haha.. a sigwhore called me a low-life. Hey Tranza, post stats and we can let gfy decide who the low-life is. While you post, i make $.

You DID ask for me test transfer 2 HOURS ago, so I gave you my epass acount name then you denied to do that until now.
if im that scammer what kind of shits I can set up? transfter money to another account? making a new epass account? lol

Don't try to strained excuse anymore.
Just admit your mistake and eat a humble pie like a man.:321GFY

Who's the low-life? ok, i really gotta do other shit today.. no more of this nonsense.

Goodluck GFY, stay away from these losers!

sucks ass you got taken....but i think it was already cleared up by epass...unless he posted that without actually checking which i hope/doubt:2 cents:

So you have no proof. Don't you?
eat a shit. fucking loser :321GFY

Yeah, I'm over it.

This situation is ripe for scam. Mods/users don't respect 'scam alert' threads and epass offers no recourse. This will happen again. But not to me.

Anyhow, thanks for your words, i appreciate it.

yep. you win. Everybody do biz with HEAT he has proven to be a stand up guy. And while you're at it.. network with Tranza, he's a big player.

:1orglaugh:321GFY

This thread is just TOO funny.

We do respect scam alerts... but when someone from epassporte is telling us that it isn't HEAT... there is nothing to do.

eww.. You have my wholehearted sympathy. :(

Also you have not proven HEAT is a scammer so please remove that from your sig. Calling someone a scammer without proof will get you banned. So until you have proven it... remove it

HEAT, seriously, I'm interested on submitting to Freepics.tv.

Can you hook me up with a partner account?

sorry but the tgp doesn't accept P/Cs anymore.

removed.

I think it's clear that they won't dig deep enough to prove/confirm that HEAT is a scammer and won't take action. You won't dig deep enough to confirm that Tranza is cockey and uphold the rules of GFY.

I'm not saying it isn't him because I haven't the slightest idea, but the burden of proof is on the accuser, not a third party.

How much money are we talking about anyway?

By the way, have you looked over the history of kandah? It isn't exactly the greatest.

Very little money.. but that isn't the point.

And I confirmed with the seller the funds were received, using the same icq that was used prior to the transaction.. so IMHO Kandah absolutely sent the money, and is in no way responsible for this fraud and theft.

Request for equal treatment:

https://gfy.com/12600881-post87.html

Thanks. :thumbsup

What an entertaining thread. It made me dumber, but still entertaining.

I didn't call you a scammer. and those on my sig are FACT : you are a fucking idiot.
so there's no equal treatment regarding this.
when you admit you just made an imprudence that accusing me of scammer without proof and apologize me publicly.
I will consider to change it.:1orglaugh

Keep the sig- it's fitting.

lol, i don't know why i read this entire thread... its like watching a train wreck.

one eight, from everything you've stated here, along w/ the confirmation from Keyser, it is pretty clear HEAT didn't rip you off, nor have anything to do w/ the deal in the first place. imo he has every right to be pissed off w/ the way you started this thread, it isn't his fault you got taken by someone w/out checking into thing, much less the fact that Kandah is part of this deal (???).

anyone who has read my posts here on gfy knows i am no fan of epassporte, but even i will say that if Keyser claims to have checked the two accounts in question and publically stated that they are unrelated, then that is above reproach. while i have a big problem w/ their business model altogether and find it an unacceptable risk no way in hell Keyser is part of some plot to cover up the theft of $200... no chance.

you got played, i won't comment more on the fact that Kandah is part of this whole deal but many here will take that factor for what it is... some advice, the next time you find yourself talking w/ someone claiming to be a board personality, why don't you... ta da... ask them to come here and post something proving that fact for your benefit before getting your walleet out? thats a much safer way to know who you are really talking to friend. no hate, been burned in the past myself but personally it looks like you are fingering another of the victims here and that what sucks..

:2 cents: :2 cents:

Obviously, the guy who contacted you via icq is the scammer, of course he's going to tell you he received the funds. Have you checked the whois of the domain you were trying to buy, does it match up to anything? Do you honestly think that if Heat had scammed you he would continue to post in here and defend himself?

huh???????????????????

I understand and respect your position.. but there's no way that's what happened here. No way.

All i have to go on is icq and epass. When questioned about both, the accused user lied about both. Note that he at some point tries to deny his icq nick and later gives a false epass account. Liar=scammer. Scammer=liar.

Note in our icq conversations that i answer every single question of his with 100% honesty. Why? Simple, i'm here to do business and wanted to get to the bottom of this. In this way, i establish credibility. He does the opposite.

I can't tell you how exactly this was layed out, and i wouldn't want to provide a how-to-committ-the-perfect-gfy-crime anyways.. but I'll tell you this. They are networked. And it takes a few icqs/epass acct's to make it all happen.

Note also that the VERY FIRST POST requested that he simply give his epass acct info. to receive a payment, so as to be exonerated completely. He refused to do so for hours (...while working on another epass acct to submit?) and only then was all for the idea.

Bottom line- I'm not the FBI and don't have access to epass records.. there is no way i or anyone could definitely confirm anything. Nor could we definitively confirm that pigs don't fly and Tranza's not a sig whore millionaire. Walks like a duck, talks like a duck.. duck. Get a rope.

yes i checked the whois.. inconclusive.

Yep. I think he'd lie about anything possible. Do his best to avert blame while not agreeing to simple payment that would exonerate him completely as a stall tactic until he was properly prepared with an additional epass account.

summary anyone?

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