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Kimmykim · 08-29-2002, 01:30 PM

greentea you are a moron.

wallstreetduo · 08-29-2002, 01:54 PM

We have to think beyond this. It doesn't take a genius to point out that child porn is a Federal Offense. Even the accusation of it. The FBI are sure to follow this. Have you considered what will happen if the Feds put a restraining order on the parties named in the suit? Let me give you a hint. We won't be getting paid!

greentea · 08-29-2002, 03:15 PM

KK only morons work for SIC..

Only a MORON like you would sell out fellow webmasters to MCDOANLDS to save her own ass.. That dont say much about you..

KK how much money did and still does CCBILL make off CP?

give us some numbers, you should know from working there

How many of them accounts did you open or look the other way?
hmmm

CCBILL is haven for child porn webmasters, Oh yea they have been working with "FBI" all these years blah blah

what a joke

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What ibill is doing to innocent people i DO NOT AGREE WITH
People that are not doing anything wrong should not be turned off..

Frank Bongiorno if he not doing anything wrong, and WE dont know all the facts, then he should not have been turned off..

Only thing im saying is, Its about time CCBILL and the others stop processing the CP and all borderline CP sites.. That's all..

For the honest joe that will get fucked over by this, its a shame..
If people are keeping records and have model releases etc then there should not be a problem.. These billing comapanys really need to look at the fucking laws again, rather then just shutting ANYONE down.

quiet · 08-29-2002, 03:20 PM

"If people are keeping records and have model releases etc then there should not be a problem"

he does - that's why there is a problem. ibill has pulled his account without even requesting proof.

J.R. · 08-29-2002, 03:20 PM

I know Frankie personally, he is not involved in anything
illegal. He is a Professional Producer, in fact.. he shoots
for Husler's Barely Legal Series.

Read the other thread that I started..

Serious Shit, No joke!

J.R. · 08-29-2002, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
"If people are keeping records and have model releases etc then there should not be a problem"

he does - that's why there is a problem. ibill has pulled his account without even requesting proof.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

This can happen to any of us, ...

quiet · 08-29-2002, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J.R.
I know Frankie personally, he is not involved in anything
illegal. He is a Professional Producer, in fact.. he shoots
for Husler's Barely Legal Series.

Read the other thread that I started..

Serious Shit, No joke!

yeah, i mentioned that on page 1 of this thread. let's keep the topic to a single thread - there's no reason to have 2 going.

greentea · 08-29-2002, 03:26 PM

I think Frankie got fucked pretty good, I dont think what they did to him was right at all, is there any news that they will turn him back on?

It sucks unfortuantly when your going after SCUM, some innocent people are going to get fucked..

If the people who get turned off by this are legit, then they dam have every right to sue etc etc

Ibills compliance DEPT really needs to look at all the laws regarding online porn rather then just killing accounts for no reason. Honestly i thought ibill was smarter then this, guess i was wrong.

quiet · 08-29-2002, 03:34 PM

and the day after all of this goes down, the ibill cmi is completely tanked:

Quote:

We are currently undergoing system maintenance.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your patience. The system will be restored shortly, and the feature you are trying to access will be back online.

edit: back up now

DyannaDoes · 08-29-2002, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
Ibills compliance DEPT really needs to look at all the laws regarding online porn rather then just killing accounts for no reason.

And what laws regarding online porn would you be referring to?

greentea · 08-29-2002, 04:17 PM

18 U.S.C. 2257: The Federal Adult Disclosure and Labeling law;

The Obscenity laws; (Both State and Federal)

The D.M.C.A. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (If you intend to have pictures and video's on your site;

The regular copyright laws;

Licensing laws;

Federal Cyber-squatting Act;

Trademark laws;

Laws of Publicity and Entertainment law;

A host of state regulations and laws.

DyannaDoes · 08-29-2002, 05:43 PM

Sorry, the keyword was online . . .

If you want to apply all of that - especially the local/state obscenity laws - you just put the entire adult industry out of business.

BJ · 08-29-2002, 05:54 PM

I REALLY think this is not a matter of law. It is a matter of not 'if' but when visa and mastercard simply pull the plug. This is not a good sign, it is simply a precursor of something much bigger, and far more devastating to come.

Kimmykim · 08-29-2002, 05:57 PM

greentea you are a dumbass moron.

You have no clue what you are talking about, no clue who or what companies are involved in this Michigan case and are simply spouting off at the mouth over something you know nothing about at all.

That pretty much sums it up.

BJ · 08-29-2002, 06:06 PM

Here is a decent link outlining what a small % of total transactions e-commerce accounts for as a whole to credit card companies.

http://www.epaynews.com/statistics/transactions.html

point is that the sum of all electronic transactions is a very small piece of the visa and mastercard pie. And the adult industry is even a smaller piece and probably the highest risk.

draw your own conclusions

Fire · 08-29-2002, 06:19 PM

Wow.. the AG is a Democrat.. who would have thought that?

greentea · 08-29-2002, 06:21 PM

First of all i was commenting ON COMPANYS that process for CP.

Oh wow KK thats a lot coming from a fucking moron who rats out other webmasters to save HER own ass..

Try holding down a fucking job for more then 6 months..

your track record speaks for itself.

Kimmykim · 08-29-2002, 09:02 PM

Once again you open your big fat moron mouth and more blithering drivel that's not even halfway towards right falls out of it.

Go smoke a fattie, sit on your couch and watch big brother or something, God knows you aren't capable of anything requiring intelligent thought.

Danny_C · 09-18-2002, 03:48 PM

To all of you who are suggesting a trade union specifically for the adult online community - www.i-freedom.org. I'm not sure why no one ever mentioned it.

AcidMax · 11-06-2002, 05:34 AM

Remember this thread? Guess who got elected governer....that's right Jennifer Granholm...let's see if she continues against legitimate sites some more.

08-29-2002, 01:54 PM	#52
wallstreetduo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 17	We have to think beyond this. It doesn't take a genius to point out that child porn is a Federal Offense. Even the accusation of it. The FBI are sure to follow this. Have you considered what will happen if the Feds put a restraining order on the parties named in the suit? Let me give you a hint. We won't be getting paid! __________________ Wallstreetduo

08-29-2002, 03:15 PM	#53
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	KK only morons work for SIC.. Only a MORON like you would sell out fellow webmasters to MCDOANLDS to save her own ass.. That dont say much about you.. KK how much money did and still does CCBILL make off CP? give us some numbers, you should know from working there How many of them accounts did you open or look the other way? hmmm CCBILL is haven for child porn webmasters, Oh yea they have been working with "FBI" all these years blah blah what a joke ----- What ibill is doing to innocent people i DO NOT AGREE WITH People that are not doing anything wrong should not be turned off.. Frank Bongiorno if he not doing anything wrong, and WE dont know all the facts, then he should not have been turned off.. Only thing im saying is, Its about time CCBILL and the others stop processing the CP and all borderline CP sites.. That's all.. For the honest joe that will get fucked over by this, its a shame.. If people are keeping records and have model releases etc then there should not be a problem.. These billing comapanys really need to look at the fucking laws again, rather then just shutting ANYONE down. Last edited by greentea; 08-29-2002 at 03:54 PM..

08-29-2002, 04:17 PM	#61
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	18 U.S.C. 2257: The Federal Adult Disclosure and Labeling law; The Obscenity laws; (Both State and Federal) The D.M.C.A. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (If you intend to have pictures and video's on your site; The regular copyright laws; Licensing laws; Federal Cyber-squatting Act; Trademark laws; Laws of Publicity and Entertainment law; A host of state regulations and laws. __________________ blunts

08-29-2002, 05:43 PM	#62
DyannaDoes Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 212	Sorry, the keyword was online . . . If you want to apply all of that - especially the local/state obscenity laws - you just put the entire adult industry out of business. Last edited by DyannaDoes; 08-29-2002 at 05:45 PM..

08-29-2002, 06:21 PM	#67
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	First of all i was commenting ON COMPANYS that process for CP. Oh wow KK thats a lot coming from a fucking moron who rats out other webmasters to save HER own ass.. Try holding down a fucking job for more then 6 months.. your track record speaks for itself. __________________ blunts Last edited by greentea; 08-29-2002 at 06:34 PM..

08-29-2002, 01:30 PM	#51
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	greentea you are a moron.

08-29-2002, 03:20 PM	#54
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	"If people are keeping records and have model releases etc then there should not be a problem" he does - that's why there is a problem. ibill has pulled his account without even requesting proof.

08-29-2002, 03:20 PM	#55
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	I know Frankie personally, he is not involved in anything illegal. He is a Professional Producer, in fact.. he shoots for Husler's Barely Legal Series. Read the other thread that I started.. Serious Shit, No joke!

08-29-2002, 03:26 PM	#58
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	I think Frankie got fucked pretty good, I dont think what they did to him was right at all, is there any news that they will turn him back on? It sucks unfortuantly when your going after SCUM, some innocent people are going to get fucked.. If the people who get turned off by this are legit, then they dam have every right to sue etc etc Ibills compliance DEPT really needs to look at all the laws regarding online porn rather then just killing accounts for no reason. Honestly i thought ibill was smarter then this, guess i was wrong.

08-29-2002, 05:54 PM	#63
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	I REALLY think this is not a matter of law. It is a matter of not 'if' but when visa and mastercard simply pull the plug. This is not a good sign, it is simply a precursor of something much bigger, and far more devastating to come.

08-29-2002, 05:57 PM	#64
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	greentea you are a dumbass moron. You have no clue what you are talking about, no clue who or what companies are involved in this Michigan case and are simply spouting off at the mouth over something you know nothing about at all. That pretty much sums it up.

08-29-2002, 06:06 PM	#65
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	Here is a decent link outlining what a small % of total transactions e-commerce accounts for as a whole to credit card companies. http://www.epaynews.com/statistics/transactions.html point is that the sum of all electronic transactions is a very small piece of the visa and mastercard pie. And the adult industry is even a smaller piece and probably the highest risk. draw your own conclusions

08-29-2002, 06:19 PM	#66
Fire Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 486	Wow.. the AG is a Democrat.. who would have thought that?

08-29-2002, 09:02 PM	#68
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Once again you open your big fat moron mouth and more blithering drivel that's not even halfway towards right falls out of it. Go smoke a fattie, sit on your couch and watch big brother or something, God knows you aren't capable of anything requiring intelligent thought.

09-18-2002, 03:48 PM	#69
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	To all of you who are suggesting a trade union specifically for the adult online community - www.i-freedom.org. I'm not sure why no one ever mentioned it.

11-06-2002, 05:34 AM	#70
AcidMax Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MI Posts: 1,827	Remember this thread? Guess who got elected governer....that's right Jennifer Granholm...let's see if she continues against legitimate sites some more. __________________ Latest MMA news. http://www.mmawrapup.com