Why aren't anyone building a RSS feed service? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

just a punk · 06-07-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lykos

I think CyberXXX state his mind,and i DO TRUST him!
Did a lot of bizz with him in past,and no reason not to trust him,just my 2 cents.

Actually edgeprod knows his words are just BS but nothing else, because our scripts are way different. He has some kind of complete morphing RSS generation product. On the other hand, our script is just a plugin which even doesn't generate any feeds at all. The RSS feeds are being generated by freeware (GPL) WordPress script. Our plugin is just intended to handle the affiliate id code and modify the existing WordPress posts using the built-in WordPress filters. In other words, our RSS solution is a set of 2 different products: free WordPress script which actually generates all the RSS content, and commercial plugin which uses internal WordPress filters to modify the content like other well-known text morphing algorithms that were invented and implemented many-many years ago. So there are no sold RSS script which can't be even compared to the one which going to be sold by edgeprod. And course we have absolutely different code in our products. So there can't be any problems for the US-based companies that uses our service.

So edgeprod just trying to abuse my service using dirty ways in a same way as he tried to abuse FHGStore.com for using XBiz news feeds where he posted his articles. That time he also was thinking he is 100% sure on what he's doing, but in the result his articles just were removed from XBiz and XBiz team had no claims to me. I can quote here the answer of XBiz Stephan which was posted to XBiz board as the answer to edgeprod's claims (he called me a thief because the XBiz news feeds with his article have appeared at FHGStore.com "without his permission")

The same story is going to happen again since edgeprod is going to claim to copyright violations in hope to abuse our service and gain over our clients. That's a dirty way and he knows it, but... it's his style of life I think.

There are many text-morphing softawre in the Internet. For example http://www.rssmagician.com/ is much more similar to feedpushers than our one. Perhaps edgeprod would like to sue them and their US-based customers as well

Here is just a quote from http://www.rssmagician.com/

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RSSMagician Will do the Following...

Automatically rewrite your RSS updates to create totally unique content. Much like a content rewriter (www.ContentSolution.com), RSSMagician pulls synonyms from an on-board dictionary and swaps them in for common words and phrases. This feature makes sure your RSS feeds, even if they're publicly used, will be completely unique.

Shuffle your RSS feed's words and sentences. Interested in generating some fast unique content? This is your feature. You can choose to have RSSMagician automatically shuffle your words, your sentences, or both.

Supplement your RSS titles and posts by adding any text you want. This feature makes sure your RSS updates are full of content and your targetted keywords.

RSSMagician pulls FULL articles from the article directories based on YOUR chosen keywords. You can then manipulate these articles ANY way you want. NO OTHER PROGRAM AROUND DOES THIS (this feature is HUGE).

Translate any RSS feed or article into 5 different languages, RSSMagician is the perfect 'buddy' to the non-English site owner.

The script will work with ANY rss feed and ANY rss reader. If you use RSS feeds in any way, shape or form, RSSMagician will work for you.

RSSMagician features a robust, powerful backend with an easy to use, one page user-interface. Anyone can master this system in record time.

Programmers! RSSMagician comes UNCODED as plain php so you can modify it as you want.

Sounds familiar, right?

TheDoc · 06-07-2007, 07:21 PM

We have had an xml/rss re-publisher/writer/morpher for a few years now. I was shown it by someone else that had it before me. Not sure how that stands with the Russian guy and any patents but in the US I can show prior work easily so no patent claim will stick here.

just a punk · 06-07-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

We have had an xml/rss re-publisher/writer/morpher for a few years now. I was shown it by someone else that had it before me. Not sure how that stands with the Russian guy and any patents but in the US I can show prior work easily so no patent claim will stick here.

Seems edgeprod is going to sue you as well

j/k of course because there are many other rss-morphing algorithms in the Internet (a link to the one of them I just posted above) Actually it's even funny to be a Russian because every scumbag is trying to make you a scammer depending on your nationality. I mean this: "Obviously, nothing is going to happen to some Russian potato farmer because they ripped off a script. It happens every day, and then the Russians cry when people say they're scam artists." Very nice to hear that "kind" words from my old US "friend"

edgeprod just knows that our solution is:
1) much easier in use for the WordPress users and it does not require any additional knowledge.
2) has a better price/license (the price of our plugin is only $100 for unlimited number of domains)
3) it's not tied to some fixed patented algorithms and improves almost every week according to the new needs and will be modified to follow all the changes in Google content-comparing algorithms.
4) it's proved by the time because it works well for many affiliate programs without any problems, in a same time as his RSS solution is still in beta phase...

So if the dirt-loving person see he can't beat 1,2,3 and 4, he just trying to act in other ways according to his nature.

P.S. As fas as you can see in this thread and all my post anywhere else, I never tried to pour a shit on his product. I was always commented on it with respect (Jace, you know that). However I can't keep silence when someone is trying to abuse my own service. It was with that XBiz story (I haven't tried to get edgeprod's articles banned form that site, I just defended FHGStore.com), and it gets repeated again - I'm not trying to ruin feedpushers, but just defending thesponsorfeeds.com. At least I haven't started this war as you can see if you read this topic from the beginning. *SHRUG*

TheDoc · 06-07-2007, 08:02 PM

It's always the Russians... and their hot sexy dirty girls..

candyflip · 06-07-2007, 09:02 PM

This whole thread seems a bit off to me now.

Mrs Blazing · 06-07-2007, 09:07 PM

bump for the RSS services!!!

TheDoc · 06-07-2007, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

This whole thread seems a bit off to me now.

I agree.. It's all over the place.

Pornwolf · 06-07-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

This whole thread seems a bit off to me now.

My head hurts. I'm not coming back to this thread.

Goodbye idiotic thread..

Goodbye.

just a punk · 06-08-2007, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

This whole thread seems a bit off to me now.

I'm really sorry for my participation in turning this thread into some stupid clownery. I was really trying to discuss the good and bad sides of morphing RSS feeds and their recognition with Google engine, but all the 2nd part of discussion I was forced to prove that water is wet and sun is not cold

However I'll be happy to answer any technical-related posts/questions if there will be any. Also don't hesitate to hit me on ICQ if you need some additional consultation or any other question regarding our RSS plugin and WordPress-driven blogs in general.

darksoul · 06-08-2007, 04:17 AM

I'm with the potato farmer on this one
patents are lame imho and are just the last resort to down your competition
when they're offering a better product.
I'm curious what exactly you've patented though.

just a punk · 06-08-2007, 04:36 AM

Thanks for your support darksoul. Actually I'd also like to look at his patent. Which exactly "unique" technology" he has patented. Is a patent on RSS feed generation algorithms similar to ones used in WordPress and other famous scripts? Or may be it's a patent on text morphing algorithms similar to http://www.rssmagician.com/, http://www.articlebot.com/ and many others?

Jace said they will "investigate the product our customers are using". Hmm... I believe even a brief "investigation" will give a clean answer: the name of product they are using to generate the RSS feeds is WordPress. I don't think feedpushers' team is so stupid to sue WordPress authors, so it makes me think these guys are just bluffing to scare my US-based clients (making some troubles for his own nationals is a normal way of doing "business" by edgeprod).

P.S. Will be waiting here for a copy of mentioned paten and for the date of its registration.

candyflip · 06-08-2007, 08:51 AM

I got some sleep and my head is still spinning from this thread.

Wasn't there some talk in an older thread about you guy putting your heads together?

Anyhow I deal with both sides and I don't like being put in the middle or forced to choose sides. All the insults and veiled threats seem a bit silly to me. Surely there has to be a better way to go about all this.

06-07-2007, 07:21 PM	#52
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	We have had an xml/rss re-publisher/writer/morpher for a few years now. I was shown it by someone else that had it before me. Not sure how that stands with the Russian guy and any patents but in the US I can show prior work easily so no patent claim will stick here. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	It's always the Russians... and their hot sexy dirty girls.. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	This whole thread seems a bit off to me now. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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Mrs Blazing Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 46	bump for the RSS services!!! __________________ [email protected] \| ICQ # 416-768-621

06-08-2007, 04:17 AM	#60
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	I'm with the potato farmer on this one patents are lame imho and are just the last resort to down your competition when they're offering a better product. I'm curious what exactly you've patented though. __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

06-08-2007, 04:36 AM	#61
just a punk So fuckin' bored Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32,386	Thanks for your support darksoul. Actually I'd also like to look at his patent. Which exactly "unique" technology" he has patented. Is a patent on RSS feed generation algorithms similar to ones used in WordPress and other famous scripts? Or may be it's a patent on text morphing algorithms similar to http://www.rssmagician.com/, http://www.articlebot.com/ and many others? Jace said they will "investigate the product our customers are using". Hmm... I believe even a brief "investigation" will give a clean answer: the name of product they are using to generate the RSS feeds is WordPress. I don't think feedpushers' team is so stupid to sue WordPress authors, so it makes me think these guys are just bluffing to scare my US-based clients (making some troubles for his own nationals is a normal way of doing "business" by edgeprod). P.S. Will be waiting here for a copy of mentioned paten and for the date of its registration. __________________ Obey the Cowgod

06-08-2007, 08:51 AM	#62
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,064	I got some sleep and my head is still spinning from this thread. Wasn't there some talk in an older thread about you guy putting your heads together? Anyhow I deal with both sides and I don't like being put in the middle or forced to choose sides. All the insults and veiled threats seem a bit silly to me. Surely there has to be a better way to go about all this. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me