haha didn't even know he was still around.......... ok so now all u in the fight mood go promote babesfight.com!! see sig!

Ooo I love betting :)

Unfortunately, I don't use Paypal, I use only Epassporte. :)

But there are a number of honest guys here who do some kind of exchange for 5% or so. So let's say if you lose the bet, then you pay him like $320 via PayPal and he pays me the full $300 via epassporte. Sounds like a hassle but is easily doable...

so deal?

he better not trade punches with Mercer.. :1orglaugh

As long as you don't mind doing the same when you lose, deal. :)

sure thing, I honor my bets :)

so we will see in 3 weeks so whins

June 23rd, right?

Deal! :)

im sure kimbo is getting better without a doubt, but the same can be said for mercer. im also sure that mercer punches harder and takes a better punch and can expose almost anyone elses boxing skills that he would get in there with even at his age.

i also know that in an mma debut fighters do what they know. they go out and go with all their training until they get smacked once or twice and then its back to what you know and up to your corner to try to work you back into your training.

it should be a fun fight to watch thats for sure and i cant hate on a man for finally getting in there and throwing down but i still think mercer is going to knock him out.

are you proposing another fight between you and kimbo?

How did the first fight turn out?

Bas Rutten is a badass
Kimbo is entertaining

50 will danza fight kimbo at internext

Well, first off, that is indeed an old fight. That said, I think I tend to agree with most people that Kimbo does not really have any chance at making it in MMA. He is obviously pretty decent at stand up, but beyond that I have a feeling that he is not very experienced. Add to that the fact that the only reason that he is good at the stand up game is because he has a strong chin and the fact that he is indeed a beast. So I'll give him a punchers chance in this fight, but beyond that he probably doesn't stand much of a chance (look what Couture did to Sylvia or what happened to Cabbage Carrera). I'm not counting on this guy making it too far in the sport. Surely he is mostly on this card to attract viewers rather than to actually make waves in the MMA world. Like someone else already said, a few strong leg kicks will be all it will take to take the wind right out of his sails. Or, his opponent could choose to make Kimbo chase him around the ring for a round or two before taking him down (which is what happended in the fight that he had with the Russian). Either way, a smart fighter with a good game plan should have no problem getting rid of Kimbo.

How old is kimbo??

In my opinion, Kimbo is somewhere in the league of Tank Abbott or Cabbage, although I'd bet either of those guys would TKO him. But to think he'd have a shot in hell with a full contact fighter like a Pedro Rizzo or a Brandon Vera or even a Paul Buentello... not a chance.

28 or so, looks older though

Hold on now, he's fighting Ray Mercer with 3 to 6 months of MMA training, let's not get too carried away and bring up Brandon Vera! Mabuhay Pilipinas!

FYI, Paul Buentello was on the Underground and challenged Kimbo to one of his fights. Last I read, they were in talks.

last i read that challenge was a while back and kimbo and his people didnt want to do it

Didn't read the outcome. Got a link?

As much as I love Kimbo, his street fights are nothing like MMA fights...they are pretty much boxing only, no hitting once they fall on the ground, only seems to go against goofy guys, and I think one of his biggest strengths are his hands. I know that with some training, anyone can develop certain skills but I just don't see him taking MMA by storm. I think that after he fights a while and is exposed to all the different fighting styles, he'll kick ass. Then again, he's fighting Mercer who if I'm not mistaken, is kind of in the same boat so maybe he will be victorious his first fight, who knows?

I thiink he sucks and has no skills.....kimbo is nothing but a hype he'll lose of
each and every K1 fighter that walks the earth

i wish i could remember where i read it, i believe it was in the sherdog forums that there was some info about it, but im banned from there now so i cant go back without hassling through proxy crap

so are kicks allowed or not because when he caught wind after takin a shot to the gut the guy could have kneed him to death....

Personally its strange that he was the only one using elbows... I think he just got mad that he went down after an average gut punch... so he won by any means necessarry. The cut was most likely from the elbow..:thumbsup

I don't think Kimbo stands a chance in MMA. He can take some hard hits but he's not good enough all around. I've seen very good boxers or guys with only very good ground games get demolished in MMA, because a more well rounded opponent can easily take advantage of your inexperience in an area of fighting. Even focusing strictly on boxing, I wouldn't say Kimbo's a great striker, but he's reasonable. His true skills in the ring remain to be seen so I look forward to seeing him fight Ray Mercer.

Why does everyone think that kimbo stirs up such a debate all the time? Every time someone mentions him in the title of a thread, it gets mad views and multiple page responses.

Discuss

because he has alot of cheerleaders and haters

I haven't been there in eons. I'll research on the UG.

For those of you doubting Kimbo has a chance in MMA just because he's only got standup, let me point out:

Couture wins HW title over Sylvia with 100% standup
GSP wins WW title from Hughes with 100% standup
Serra wins WW title from GSP with 100% standup
Jackson wins LHW title from Lidell with 100% standup
Silva wins MW title from Franklin with 100% standup

Or how about ...
Koscheck (4-time All-American wrestler) beats Sanchez ... what, 97% standup?

Just examples of how standup is dominating (at least in UFC) right now. Essentially, those that can avoid takedowns and have strong, quick fists are the ones winning.

(I mentioned this maybe 6 months ago and most people here scoffed ... but with each win it's clearer and clearer what the pattern is)

So if Kimbo can stay on his feet, and his power translates well into the ring, sure he has a chance.

awesome I love this type of fighting :thumbsup

These are all very good points but can Kimbo do stand up against a good kickboxer? Hard to stand up when your legs feel like they've been through a meatgrinder.

Good points.

i cant say i really agree with your points. just because someone wins on their feet doesnt mean it was 100% standup. alot of that has to do with getting the right shot, your opponent maybe not wanting to go to the ground with you, how you can handle their power vs how they can handle yours.

its not just saying hey i won standing up so its 100% standup and now because kimbo can throw a punch he can stand up and do this or that. and then you end the whole thing by saying, sure he has a chance. well fuck everyone that goes in there has a chance, that doesnt mean he's going to win though.

I think he makes really great points, but there is one variable he's not taking into consideration.

Wrestling skills.

All those guys listed have it. Great wrestling skills gives you the power to keep the fight standing, or to take it to the ground. It's something I know I'm weak in, and working on.

exactly what i was thinking when he dropped to his knees. had he done something like that in the ring against an all around good mma fighter, his opponent could have came flying in there with a hard knee to the face and it would have been all over...

This is why I said before, he'll probably win a few out of pure strength and maybe a little luck. as someone else said, he has a puncher's chance in every fight, however he is not always going to stay up on his feet. as a matter of fact i think he'll have a hard time staying on his feet, from what i've seen it doesn't take a whole lot to get kimbo down. i think this is a big case of kimbo getting talked up before fighting anyone worth talking about...

I don't remember to what extent but I do remember reading that Ray Mercer has some type of amateur wrestling background. That was probably a LONG time ago.

I'm sure both guys are being trained on the ground, but that doesn't mean the fight is ever going to end up there. Some guys are just never comfortable going to the ground no matter how much training they have had there. I have a feeling this will be the case in this fight.

I like Kimbo and I enjoy watching his fights, but I believe his punching power is way overrated. I have never seen one of his fights end on a KO where he just puts a guy to sleep. They usually end on an accumulation of punches and outright fatigue, and that is against total stiffs. Imagine for a second if you had a guy with the concussive power of a Paul Buentello or a Tank Abbot hitting one of Kimbo's opponents with a bare knuckle shot. Do you honestly think they would've woken up yet?

That being said, this isn't the Ray Mercer of even a few years ago. He is 47 and looks to be losing the iron chin he once had. His last couple of boxing fights he hasn't looked good, including getting KO'd his last fight against Shannon Briggs back in 2005, and in his K 1 fight against Remy Bonjasky he took one kick and called it a night. He could still easily drop Kimbo if he connects but time is really catching up with him.

I'm excited to see the fight but both guys are too much of an unknown to make a good prediction. I just hope it is an exciting fight and doesn't give MMA critics an embarrassment to point to.