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Lance69 05-30-2007 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516627)
Okay, now my constructive contribution to this thread:

DMCA them.

Start with any single torrent site that has AFF on it and your material. Take screen shots, you will need it. DMCA the torrent site. I know this is likely worthless, but it is a good start. DMCA their hosting company as well.

Now the real stuff: DMCA AFF / Cams.

Quite simply, they are contributing to your content being stolen, providing financial support to those who guide and provide access to the material.

DMCA Google. Any time you see a torrent site with your material on it, DMCA Google, and ask them to remove that site from their listings. Based on the most recent Perfect 10's ruling, Google will likely be very responsive to your missives. Make sure you indicate specific pages you have seen your material listed on, with screen shots.

DMCA AFF's hosting company. Make sure they are aware of the situation.

Do the same with any other advertising company you find on the page. You will almost certainly find AdBrite or similar on there - potentially even Google.

Send a letter to the RIAA and to the Motion Picture Academy. Let them know that a company right in their back yard (AFF / Cams) is actively providing financial support for torrent sites. Let them know the steps you have taken. Encourage them to contact AFF and ask them why this is the case.

At some point, one or the other of these companies or groups will get advice from a lawyer that they are compelled to take action. If things go according to plan, that will include trying to stuff a legal broomstick up AFF's corporate ass.

Don't just bitch - take action.
Outfuckin'Standing.

donkevlar 05-30-2007 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by will76 (Post 12516610)
maybe they would pay for porn if there wasn't so many torrent sites. And how would torrent sites make money if there was no one to pay them for advertising ??? its easy logic, connect the dots.
It's only the big torrent sites that display torrents from all of the small torrent sites that have advertising on them.

Most are run on donations.

Pleasurepays 05-30-2007 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 12516657)
For one I think most of the torrent sites, at least the ones I have looked into, are all sitting in a shit country that does no enforce nor care about copyright law.

The only way to really hit these sites is to full on attack the companies they advertise and cut off their funding.
piratebay is in the EU and always has been. people have been going after them. maybe the law/court just hasn't caught up to them yet.



jesus:

"The pirates have since moved the Bay's hosting back to Sweden, where they've built technological bulwarks against another takedown, law-hardening the Bay's network architecture with a system of redundant servers that spans three nations. Shutting down the site in any single country will only cripple the Pirate Bay for as long as it takes for its fail-over scripts to execute, a gap measurable in minutes.

The various servers' locations are obscured behind a load balancer configured to lie, the crew says. Once the failsafe is triggered, a determined adversary with an international team of litigators might be able to track down the servers, but by that time -- according to the plan -- the pirates will have deployed mirrors in even more countries. In theory, the corporate lawyers will eventually tire of this game of international copyright Whack-A-Mole.

With all that in place, crew member Fredrik Neij says he welcomes the possibility of another raid. "I really want the pleasure of it being down three minutes, then up again."

Daruma 05-30-2007 08:41 PM
How about getting a bunch of people together and picket their offices..?
get them some negative press for supporting these sites which also support some other bad shit..

I'm sure the would not like the neg press..

http://www.umich.edu/~uac/threeweeks...2.9/strike.jpg

RawAlex 05-30-2007 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12516642)
here is what i dont understand... napster ultimately got fucked because it was proven that they do in fact (or are capable of) exerting control over what is downloaded and can remove/block copyrighted content. although torrent sites are purely peer to peer and napster wasn't, it would seem to me that they can still identify copyrighted material.. it's pretty obvious.

what are the legalities here? i can't see where they have protection.
No idea specifically, but my take is this:

Quote:
ADOBE.CS.3.MASTER.COLLECTION (PRE-ORDER) UPDATED.CRACK
I don't have to be a genius to know that the items I am listing are cracks or hacks. I can certainly imply it (pre-order? Hmmm)

Quote:
Cumfiesta - Feng Shui Fuck with Abbey
Again, it would be highly doubtful (no, impossible) that the company ceded their rights to their content and put it in the public domain.

Knowingly facilitating the distribution of this material, even if they don't host the files, well... I don't know where that stands legally, but it is time for the copyright holders to stand up and ask the question, because this is getting way out of hand.

DTK 05-30-2007 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516627)
Okay, now my constructive contribution to this thread:

DMCA them.

Start with any single torrent site that has AFF on it and your material. Take screen shots, you will need it. DMCA the torrent site. I know this is likely worthless, but it is a good start. DMCA their hosting company as well.

Now the real stuff: DMCA AFF / Cams.

Quite simply, they are contributing to your content being stolen, providing financial support to those who guide and provide access to the material.

DMCA Google. Any time you see a torrent site with your material on it, DMCA Google, and ask them to remove that site from their listings. Based on the most recent Perfect 10's ruling, Google will likely be very responsive to your missives. Make sure you indicate specific pages you have seen your material listed on, with screen shots.

DMCA AFF's hosting company. Make sure they are aware of the situation.

Do the same with any other advertising company you find on the page. You will almost certainly find AdBrite or similar on there - potentially even Google.

Send a letter to the RIAA and to the Motion Picture Academy. Let them know that a company right in their back yard (AFF / Cams) is actively providing financial support for torrent sites. Let them know the steps you have taken. Encourage them to contact AFF and ask them why this is the case.

At some point, one or the other of these companies or groups will get advice from a lawyer that they are compelled to take action. If things go according to plan, that will include trying to stuff a legal broomstick up AFF's corporate ass.

Don't just bitch - take action.
Jeez, talk about starting the clock ticking on thread deletion :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Great post Alex :thumbsup

RawAlex 05-30-2007 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12516676)
. In theory, the corporate lawyers will eventually tire of this game of international copyright Whack-A-Mole.

With all that in place, crew member Fredrik Neij says he welcomes the possibility of another raid. "I really want the pleasure of it being down three minutes, then up again."
Everyone misses the point. There is no reason to play whack-a-mole with them, because that isn't the point here. The issues are income, money, and traffic.

The DMCA against the torrent site really is just a ruse. They won't do anything, and it isn't important.

However, the idea here is to get AFF (and other companies, I found GGW all over a site today, funny, because pretty much all of thier content was on there for free) to stop sponsoring and stop paying these torrent sites.

Further, it would be to encourage Google to remove the torrent sites from the SERPs, because more and more often, they are dominating the serps because of massive cross linking and cross referencing from torrent site to torrent site. Besides everything else, these sites are now starting to take up more and more porn traffic, turning potential buyers into torrent sucking freeloaders.

Sticking a legal broom up AFF's ass is a good place to start. Actively asking GFY (and other adult boards) to stop taking the bros' money would be another.

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 08:57 PM
Dirty point me to the torrent sites that have Fleshlight on em

Thx

Matt 26z 05-30-2007 08:57 PM
Quote:
So we should all find a way to profit off of other peoples stolen software, movies, content ?

You know a lot of people do a lot of work, and invest a lot of money so they can profit off of their product. For somebody to come along and profit off of their work is just wrong.
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.


As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS. We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that they'll still be there. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516729)
Dirty point me to the torrent sites that have Fleshlight on em

Thx
:warning :warning :warning :warning

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:00 PM
Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.


As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS. We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that they'll still be there. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.
When they are making zero money, the "bros" won't be stealing from other "bros". Right now, that would appear to be the case, a few companies making bank off the hard work of others.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516719)
Sticking a legal broom up AFF's ass is a good place to start. Actively asking GFY (and other adult boards) to stop taking the bros' money would be another.
How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516747)
Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.

Thx i believe i have Mod access on that forum let me try.

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12516751)
How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think

Please dont MIX UP "BRO's" with Top Notch and StandUp Guy :pimp :pimp


http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...493/z04472.jpg

VexXxed 05-30-2007 09:04 PM
Big Up DWB! Definitely supporting your fight over here.

I know if my content was getting passed around like that I would definitely be looking to change the game.

Matt 26z 05-30-2007 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516747)
Juicy, you can start looking for link here:

http://fleshlight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=667565

Some nice links to videos on rapidshare.
If you read the text with those posts, they appear to be amateur videos made by the members of that forum using their FleshLights.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516755)
Please dont MIX UP "BRO's" with Top Notch and StandUp Guy :pimp :pimp


http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...493/z04472.jpg
I wouldn't dream of it mate:thumbsup

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 12516751)
How can you ask GFY (Playboy) to stop taking AFF's money, They delete threads that bad mouth AFF, I think the Bro's club is alot bigger than you think
Realistically, while I don't yell "mutiny", I would have to say that their might find themselves on a chatboard island with a few syncopates and not much else. Blatantly playing favorites just ain't good for business. Big chat boards have come and gone on less.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516763)
If you read the text with those posts, they appear to be amateur videos made by the members of that forum using their FleshLights.

Any link to anything on rapidshare.de is encouraging surfers to go look on a torrent site or filing sharing site for content. Not a good idea, considering all the other fine stuff you can find on there.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:11 PM
Matt: http://ddl.how.pl/ - how much of that stuff do you think Bangbros allowed to be put out there?

Matt 26z 05-30-2007 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516749)
When they are making zero money, the "bros" won't be stealing from other "bros". Right now, that would appear to be the case, a few companies making bank off the hard work of others.
Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:15 PM
Matt 26z do you run any of these types of sites? every torrent thread I have seen you always seem to be defending them

SmokeyTheBear 05-30-2007 09:16 PM
wow how did i miss this gem ..

:thumbsup

Well Dunn 05-30-2007 09:16 PM
lmfao niceeeeeeeeee

Aussie Rebel 05-30-2007 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 12516793)
wow how did i miss this gem ..

:thumbsup
Come on in, the water is fine

Juicy D. Links 05-30-2007 09:18 PM
point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em

SleazyDream 05-30-2007 09:23 PM
no one here has heard of DRM?

Pleasurepays 05-30-2007 09:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516790)
Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.
the "early days" where millions of people were searching for 1000s of pages cannot possibly be compared to today in any way, shape or form. all those "problems" of the early days didn't evolve into something else... they were for the most part, eradicated by people refusing to do business with those people.

unless of course "the early days" to you means 2 years ago or something.

you can't compare a wild west free for all that had yet to settle into some sort of order to the increasing problem of blatent content theft and copyrighted content sharing that is happening on a scale that was NEVER possible before now.

bobbyjuly 05-30-2007 09:24 PM
Time for action guys. It will only get worse unless website owners start going after Torrent sites and their advertisers. :2 cents:


Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516627)
Okay, now my constructive contribution to this thread:

DMCA them.

Start with any single torrent site that has AFF on it and your material. Take screen shots, you will need it. DMCA the torrent site. I know this is likely worthless, but it is a good start. DMCA their hosting company as well.

Now the real stuff: DMCA AFF / Cams.

Quite simply, they are contributing to your content being stolen, providing financial support to those who guide and provide access to the material.

DMCA Google. Any time you see a torrent site with your material on it, DMCA Google, and ask them to remove that site from their listings. Based on the most recent Perfect 10's ruling, Google will likely be very responsive to your missives. Make sure you indicate specific pages you have seen your material listed on, with screen shots.

DMCA AFF's hosting company. Make sure they are aware of the situation.

Do the same with any other advertising company you find on the page. You will almost certainly find AdBrite or similar on there - potentially even Google.

Send a letter to the RIAA and to the Motion Picture Academy. Let them know that a company right in their back yard (AFF / Cams) is actively providing financial support for torrent sites. Let them know the steps you have taken. Encourage them to contact AFF and ask them why this is the case.

At some point, one or the other of these companies or groups will get advice from a lawyer that they are compelled to take action. If things go according to plan, that will include trying to stuff a legal broomstick up AFF's corporate ass.

Don't just bitch - take action.

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516790)
Your key words are "right now." Back in the early days of TGPs they were posting stolen content and linking directly to members areas. A real thorn in the side of the industry, yet they were allowed to have sponsor banners on their front pages. This is really what we are seeing again with torrents. You can either attempt to cut it's head off now, or let it naturally develop into something with some order that can be used by the industry. That is my take on this.
Well, the linking directly to members areas was stopped in a very short amount of time (except by programs that mistakenly thought they could make money on the upsells inside... instead they got wiped out by huge bills on plugins). The situation wasn't tolerable, and it was changed.

If it was AFF's content getting ripped off, it might be there choice - but they aren't the ones getting ripped off, they are working hand in hand with the bandits to profit from the work of others.

AFF could VERY VERY easily add code in their iframe serving software (and affiliate tracking system) to deny requests from torrent sites. They aren't hard to find. Ban the word "torrent" in the URL. Suddenly these guys aren't getting banners served. Suddently their clicks don't count. Suddenly the money stops flowing.

That would be too easy, now wouldn't it?

RawAlex 05-30-2007 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12516807)
no one here has heard of DRM?
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Next.

SmokeyTheBear 05-30-2007 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
You may want to take a trip back in time and see how the TGP industry got it's start.
webmasters took their own thumbs because the sponsor wasnt but the sponsor still makes money, playboy doesnt make anything by having every issue of playboy on torrent sites before i get them with my paid subscription


Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
As for these arguments that the dating sites are keeping torrent sites in business, that is total BS.
how do you figure that .. if they are the majority of the sponsors = most of the income , thasts about as clear as you can get
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
We know from history that if you remove all income from hacking, warez, music trading and torrent sites that
that there arent nearly as many .. thats what i have noticed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 12516730)
. Plenty of webmasters are more than willing to run these type of sites as a zero income hobby.
i dont see any doing it.. thats like saying oil barons are just doing it for kicks and would do it for no profit just because they like seeing us drive around in cars..

Could be true but we will never know because there aren't any doing it.. prob a good indicator .

Daruma 05-30-2007 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 12516807)
no one here has heard of DRM?
looks like you found the magic bullet.. not..

http://www.esreconvilier.net/UserFil...e/Applause.gif

budz 05-30-2007 09:38 PM
nice posts rawalex :o

OzMan 05-30-2007 09:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 12516803)
point out any torrent , similar sites with Fleshlight on em if you see em
from the piratebay

http://clicktorrent.info/phpAdsNew/a...ten ttype=gif

http://tinyurl.com/35cxyd

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:02 PM
another one from the same page

http://clicktorrent.info/phpAdsNew/a... ntenttype=gif

refreshing that page gives me Fleshlight Sexbankroll and Xratedbucks so far

RawAlex 05-30-2007 10:03 PM
Ozman, affiliate links would be better...

beemk 05-30-2007 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12516504)
Lars said he is forced to support content theft and that everyone should wake up to the way of the future, new business models, the ever changing nature of the internet...etc etc etc.
umm, if people had a way to give out free paid memberships they hacked to aff im sure he would change his tune.

OzMan 05-30-2007 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12516953)
Ozman, affiliate links would be better...
So the sponsors can cancel the rogue affiliates? :1orglaugh :sleep

I only posted the pics as Juicy was acting like "what Fleshlight??!!! no waaay!!!"

It took me 30 seconds to find them LOL


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