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rape is bad, in all its forms.

But you guys love the woman humiliation videos right? One is the outright degradation, the other is...

:2 cents:

You're right on the money there. Why does Bang Bus come to mind..? :winkwink:

Rape is simulated all the time on TV and in movies... I recently saw the movie "Fat Girl" in LA -- it's about a fat girl who's a virgin and she wants to be fucked by a man she doesn't care for (she doesn't want any emotional attachment for her first time) -- at the end up the movie some kind of wierd and violent irony kicks in and she gets raped by a truck driver and the suggestion is that she got what she wanted... Or go to Blockbuster and rent "The Lover" -- there's some kind of rape permutation in that movie... There are so many movies and TV shows that play the rape fantasy card to make $$$...

Anyway this subject is best left for the lawyers to fight over.

Is this a dialer on the front door?

http://204.177.92.193/party/affpp/in...tml?pin=503799

No way man.

Women do not fantasize about being raped.

Anyone with that opinion should realise it is an oxymoron because the word rape is defined as "The crime of *forcing* another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse."

Bondage and aggressive sex do not qualify as rape. Promoting rape as entertainment in a pay site leads surfers to believe there are really acts like this going on and people shooting pictures of it even if it is fake. Not cool.

Honestly if a surfer thinks BANG BUS is real don't you think that rape shit would be perceived the same?

There is so much money to be made in this industry why does anyone feel the need to push rape??? Anyone? Maybe they like it.

greentea, it's amazingly transparent who you are.

not sure who sent you here to fight their battles for them.. but it's pretty pathetic.

i'm sure you can dig up all sorts of fun posts i've made, regardless it doesnt change the fact that

1) Rape is illegal, immoral and wrong in all of its forms
2) You are apparently quite "Pro-Rape"

I"m glad you dont send conversioncash your celeb rape traffic.

Go back to your master you lapdog.

Hate to say it but... Someone has made some pretty good points here...

Ever see the commercials for Grand Theft Auto 3? Ever read an old advertisement for Doom, or one of the other mass slaughter games?

You are wrong about that. I can tell you for a fact, without any question, that many women have had this fantasy and many of them share it with others online in the form of chat, stories, and email. This is not my opinion, this is a fact. That does not mean, in any way, that they want to be raped, it just means that they have such fantasies.

BDSM and Bondage are not rape, don't confuse the two. There are people into BDSM and bondage and even pain, and then there are people into rape fantasies. If you ever confuse the two while talking to someone in the sub/Dom lifestyle, get ready to get an earful. :)

You seem to be dancing around posts and points that others are making that place YOU and YOUR company in a shitty light. If you're going to ride the moral horse, ride it all the way home.

And since you've mentioned your daughter several times in this thread, I suggest you get out of teen sites. Very similar principle.

And yes, this thread should have taken place solely through email. Next time I find a CP site linking your stuff should I bring it to the board? I bet you would LOVE that, wouldn't you? You didn't come here to help our your "program friends", you came here pointing fingers. Not good.

I have to agree with you on this. And if am not mistaken the highest court in the USA did rule on "fantasy" and
trying to regulate them. Regardless of what anyone "thinks" is wrong.. I do not think any kind of rape site
should be on the internet but a "fantasy" is not against the law. Now if you do not want to do business with
these people that's fine... I do believe the issue could have been taken care of better than it has been. Anyone
I do not care who you are if you have been in the Porn business for any time at all should be very careful
before they start throwing stones... It can really come back to haunt you in a big way. .... and on some thing
you feel so strongly about I would set back take some very deep breath and THINK before posting on a public forum.

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You seem to be dancing around posts and points that others are making that place YOU and YOUR company in a shitty light.
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1) its not my company
2) what shitty light are you talking about? celeb sites? or legal teen sites? i dont see any problems with them.. and i'm willing to say so for the record.

You say i'm dodging questions, but read the title of this thread "Promoting Rape"... so why is it that when i dont feel like getting chatty about celeb sites on a rape thread that you then feel the need to change the subject.

The subject is promoting rape, is it right or wrong. Not promoting fantasy, not promoting celebrities, not whether or not greentea smokes too much dope which is self evident.

So you are the one dodging. You are the one changing the subject.

I believe that promoting rape is both immoral and illegal and i dont do business those who promote it.

Aside from your personal view of me or my "light"... What do you believe Sly_RJ?

A simple "yes i think its ok to promote rape" or "no i dont think its ok" will do.

So legal teen sites are okay (which most people here will agree play off underage fantasy).

However, legal rape fantasy sites you have judged immoral.

Can you say Hypocrite? I guess the underage fantasy is cool, but the rape fantasy isn't. Morality according to Hooper.

The stuff YOU brought to Roger's attention were leading to what looks to be legal rape fantasy sites, nothing illegal. How is that dodging the question?

And REAL classy how you're "helping" out the other programs with this thread. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA That's the funniest thing I've heard in a while. I'm sure they appreciate it on a public board. Get Real.

once again...promoting rape fantasy is not "illegal."

It may be however "immoral," but doing anything in porn is considered "immoral" by the majority of the public.

If you can't see this man you are much more jaded by the almighty dollar than anyone you disagree with here.

And no it does not boil down to "yes I think it's ok to promote rape" or "no I don't think it's ok."

We live in a world that is not black and white...there are many....many shades of grey...and one of them sadly is rape FANTASY.

If a program or sponsor chooses not to associate with wm's that promote rape fantasy etc that is their choice and I will defend that.

If you as a wm do not wish to promote rape fantasy or work with any sponsors that do, that is your choice and I will defend that.

But if someone chooses to open up or promote a rape fantasy site knowing full well the baggage it comes with, and the potential cost to their business rep as well as their actual income fighting off legal battles, then that is their (at this point) LEGAL choice and I too will defend that.

I will not defend the subject matter, only their right to produce and disseminate it based upon our 1st amendment rights to free speech.

And yes the sites in your arsenal are up for debate.

You came on here questioning or as you stated judging and opening up the floor for other wm's to judge this wm and the sponsors he pushes.

You have been shown to be a hypocrite. You want free speech but only when it protects your income.

I think taking someone's image and photoshopping their face onto another person's body is wrong and immoral...but that's just an opinion.

You would not appreciate if they were doing this to you and plastering pics of you all over the net taking a dick up your ass or down your throat.

The teen site in your portfolio actually has the words 'Highschool Honeys" on it.

Sure there are 18+ girls in highschool but still I would never push anything that promoted girls in "Highschool," because you, me and everyone else on this board knows that encompasses alot.
Highschool girls could be anywhere from 14-19 but did you specify that they were 18 year old highschool honeys?...NO.

The not so subtle implication is underage, but of course for fantasy purposes.

But hey...as long as you have 18+ chicks on your site with documentation and you don't actually come out and say they are underage you're cool in the eyes of the law...you are right legally (maybe) but what about morally?

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Hooper no one.. I have no battles to fight, simply you cant anwser my question because you know im right..

I dont send conversioncash any traffic, I may be transparent but not STUPID..

Mr moral police cant even answer a straight question about his own site. That says enough hooper..

heyhey - :thumbsup I'm just glad I can copy/paste rather than have to type all that out myself

It is ok to promote anything that's legal fullfuckingstop
What <i>you</i> don't like, <i>you</i> don't promote, I don't like incest stuff and wont go near it. Incest is illegal, yet there are <b>loads</b> of links and sites for it and promoting it - we all know it's fantasy incest but it's fantasy fucking sickness in my (tiny) mind and I find it more disturbing than fantasy rape.

what an interesting thread

hahaha

look who talking


little looser hooper from 'free america' try get attention and win DVD

his try make problem where no problem, cos americans mostly buy memberships to this sites.

and this sites absolutely legal.

2Lens and Eric - i think it bad example for other and this posts of this sick looser dont wanna be counted

or just dont give to him a DVD.

Conversion Cash sites DO NOT CONVERT.

I think I'm converting about 10% of free trials to paid memberships.

Instead of bullshitting on here about rape, why don't you do something about improving the members area of Conversion Cash sites so we can all make more money.

hahaha..

i guess i struck a chord with ya'll....

18 year old chicks are legal.. its no fantasy. celebs are legal, its no fantasy.

and what question have i failed to answer greentea?

and what makes you think i'm trying to help the sponsors by bringing this into an open forum?

hey Hoop !!! Entrepeneur it some kind of cocksucker, right?

Amazing. In addition to have shown yourself to be a hypocrite (for all of GFY to see), and someone who slams other programs on public boards (in the form of a poll no less), you've also shown yourself to be someone who does nothing but attempt feeble deflections when confonted with his own hypocritical bullshit.

Well Done :)

thanks.

LOL!!

hahaha.. i forgot i wrote that!

lol hahahaha :-)

well shit, its been fun guys. fajitas are on the grill so i have to go.

i still find it quite humorous that anybody would equate celebs or legal teens with rape.

i feel truly sorry for those of you who believe that line for even one moment.. and i feel not equally sorry but sorry nontheless for anybody who believes that rape "fantasy" is much better.

snuff films are illegal, and fantasy snuff while perhaps not illegal is equally pathetic. i mention snuff films becuase it further illustrates that violence and sex dont mix. its not ok to beat women, rape women or murder women no matter what light you paint it in.

a woman can choose to be a porn star, she cant (by it's very definition) choose to be raped and by glorifying or promoting it you perpetuate the idea to other webmasters that it's ok to promote it.. but more importantly you indicate to surfers that it's ok to do it....

if your daughter, sister, mother, cousin, friend whatever... if she were raped i'm quite certain your opinions would changeinstantly.

too funny

two things to say.

1. I like Hooper
2. I've been raped. its not so bad. I asked for it because of how I was dressed.:1orglaugh

No one is equating either of those with "RAPE," and I find it frightening that you have no reading comprehension skills.

I am equating fantasy rape with any other fantasy site and it's legality.

That is all.

RAPE IS OK :thumbsup

I don't like CP because CP action make damage to children's psychology and physiology...

Instead - rape is just hardcore + fantasy...
Because Rape always = Rape Fantasy..
No one model not damaged on rape photo/video session..
Where is a problem????

Bad - if man go to street , caught girl and rape this girl...
GOOD - if man open browser and masturbate on rape pics...
Because this man will have fun and will not go to the street...

It's my :2 cents: