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Old 08-24-2002, 09:56 PM   #1
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SexOcean.com

Who is this guy, and is he cheating? Does anyone know how did this guy grew his site from 0 to 480k/day in less than a month?

And why are big guys like JJJ trading with this fuck?

I don't get this. Don't tell me he isnt' a cheater. Any info would be appreciated
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:08 PM   #2
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I don't understand it either.

His traffic had shitty prod on my site too.
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:21 PM   #3
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i caught him hitbotting me
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:26 PM   #4
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C'mon guys, let's cut him some slack until we hear his side of the story. I suspect that it will turn out that he is just a hardworking, aggressive webmaster. There is no reason to be alarmed.
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:29 PM   #5
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He is Evil...pure and simple!!!!!
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:32 PM   #6
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Yeah, I think he serisouly has a really good cheating scam going on. It just fucking pisses me off JJJ trades with him
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:35 PM   #7
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I've wondered about it too. It is possible that he is legit, maybe had tons of feeder traffic, but something seems funny about it.

How many bookmarkers can he have? His thumbs are p=45, 40, and 30. And the text links are all outs.
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:37 PM   #8
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Have you noticed that sexocean.com and girls911.com look exactly the same.

On Sextracker:

sexocean.com = #8

girls911.com = #16
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:42 PM   #9
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a lot of the pics on his site look pretty damn young

wtf?

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Old 08-24-2002, 10:47 PM   #10
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There is another way to do it without actually cheating. But I am not about to talk about it here. Then everyone and their grandmother would do it, and tgp trade traffic would be completely worthless (as opposed to almost completely worthless) within a month.
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:53 PM   #11
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I've seen about 6 or 7 TGPs that look exactly like sexocean.com

They all have the same layout and similar DNS info
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Old 08-24-2002, 10:59 PM   #12
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Yeah, here is another one, analsuki.com.
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Old 08-24-2002, 11:26 PM   #13
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is it possible they are cheating sextracker? once there was a site listed #4 and it was a total cheat... they took it down in a few hours.
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Old 08-24-2002, 11:53 PM   #14
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I trade with him and he lists my galleries on his TGPs...they are mostly CJs though...not too many hits to the galleries...maybe 1,000 or so.
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Old 08-25-2002, 12:13 AM   #15
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I take that back...here's the traffic he sent to one of my galleries today:

sexocean.com 10,163

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Old 08-25-2002, 01:10 AM   #16
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when i mentioned this

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ght=sexocea n

two weeks ago no one seemed to care (glad to see that the site has since changed it's meta tags)

and the only thing that concerns you gotys is that this site is beating you on sextracker

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and of course we haven't heard from Sleazydream in a while since he dropped down to #21

if merely a counter can make that drastic of a change in people's online lives i would hate to see what happens when they are dealing with adverse situations in their personal lives
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:39 AM   #17
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this guy runs a few more sites that are known hitbotters, i think mabye fantaporn.com
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Old 08-25-2002, 04:59 AM   #18
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Add this one as well
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http://www.oohsexy.com/

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Old 08-25-2002, 05:01 AM   #19
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Holy shit. If Fantaporn is his, he is no doubt a cheater. Fantaporn is a hitbotting piece of shit for sure. I just noticed he got that motherfucker all the way up to #60 on ST.
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Old 08-25-2002, 05:05 AM   #20
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Is it actually worth any traffic to be ranked high on SexTracker? Way back when I was running TGPs, I often made the first page with one or both of my main TGPs and it was only worth a trickle of traffic.

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Old 08-25-2002, 05:09 AM   #21
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Is it actually worth any traffic to be ranked high on SexTracker? Way back when I was running TGPs, I often made the first page with one or both of my main TGPs and it was only worth a trickle of traffic.

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I don't think you get much traffic from it. But people use it to get advertising dollars. The hun couldn't charge what he does for banners and gallery spots if he was number 2106 on sextracker. ;)
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Old 08-25-2002, 05:26 AM   #22
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gotys, you trade with babes4free and he is trading with at least three of the guys sites.

It wasn't that long ago, babes4free was trading with fantaporn, I posted something about it on another board and I'm sure somebody contacted him.

It blows me away how a guy can have 500k a day and not have any idea that he is getting botted.

I am glad I am not running a trading site at the moment, although I might be again shortly. What a fucking nightmare.

It doesn't matter whether you trade directly with the hitbotters or not either. If you trade, chances are you are getting some of that crap, because one or more of your partners is getting it.

I admire the few people who can get a site up to 400k plus in a short time without cheating. It takes some serious productivity to do that, especially when you are working against all the incoming bullshit traffic.
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Old 08-25-2002, 06:48 AM   #23
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It blows me away how a guy can have 500k a day and not have any idea that he is getting botted.
Even when you throw the evidence in thier face, most tgp owners will do nothing about it, for fear of losing all that great clicking fake traffic. Some of these new hit bots can go up to 6 levels deep thru trades. There are at least 3 tgps over 500k that I am certain are using hitbots themselves. TGP owners know which trades have suspicous traffic, they are just to cowardly to confront the suspected cheaters.
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Old 08-25-2002, 07:09 AM   #24
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Well, he has a few sites and this one sexocean.com seems to send decent traffic.
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14371 - http://www.sexocean.com/

I hope that came out okay. Hits to a recent gallery.
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funny how u know all this and funny how I once banned your sites on my tgps for hitbotting
hmm
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Well, he has a few sites and this one sexocean.com seems to send decent traffic.
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I hope that came out okay. Hits to a recent gallery.
Did you make any sales on this *recent gallery?
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Did you make any sales on this *recent gallery?
Yes, I did make a couple. BUT, the same gallery was also listed at 2 other tgps which sent a little less traffic.
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and of course we haven't heard from Sleazydream in a while since he dropped down to #21



Wheres labret!?
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Yeah I wonder why JJJ's would trade with him.. I wouldn't send traffic to that nightmare.. I clicked 2 thumbs got a trade that was either incest or lolita shit.. Fucking garbage..
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http://adults-tgp.com/
http://www.sexsq.com/
http://www.oohsexy.com/

Sexocean sites as well

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LOL, Who the fuck are you? You banned me for hitbots, ROFLMAO. You want to confront me?? I'll give you a confrontation you will never forget ass wipe.
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Old 08-27-2002, 07:08 AM   #33
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Look here for his sites....

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If I trade with any one of the sexocean sites my traffic will temporarily peak, the sexocean trade will grow to 60k+ and my other trades will go to shit and it'll take 3 days to recover my other trades .... I've tried everything possible to make his traffic work .. but it doesn't .. the prod is either grossly low, or in the 1.3 range (which is still low with a 2.5-3.0 average for trades) ... so it's really wack ...

I get the feeling I'm sending him good productive traffic and it's basically not even being returned .. either because the traffic is pure shit .. or because its hitbot or something .... I dunno ...

I can't get any of the trades to work worth a shit :-| ... but it is possible that he has that much traffic .. they run like 15 CJ tgps .. and the 3 that are top 20 ST sites all trade like 80k with each other ... so who knows ..

Oh well ... Better safe than sorry
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Those are not TGP sites - wicked low skim combined with exit consoles. That makes them CJ2 sites. No way am I trading with a CJ2 from my TGP. It is not fair to me.

I had one site like that sign up for a trade on one of my TGPs. When I clicked his link from my admin script, I got a 1900 dialer active x dialer pop. Deleted the trade. Then I turned on ICQ, and he was there. I asked for a clean, no exit console URL so we could try the trade. He told me "I have no console." At this point I am viewing the page source and looking at the 1900 exit pop code on the bottom of the fucking page. So I blacklisted the domain.

Like Al Pacino says in "Heat", "Don't waste my motherfucking time!"
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What the fuck's with all the highlighted letters on that longmechies.com page?

Massive Cock?
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he says that ? Cool
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his sites are popup hell and have dialer traps, i refuse to trade with him...
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JJJ Take the link down ....
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sexocean is a cheater!! checkout awi's board.

http://sex.teenbestnet.com/ i think it's his too.
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I trade with him and he lists my galleries on his TGPs...they are mostly CJs though...not too many hits to the galleries...maybe 1,000 or so.
that's usually not a good sign.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ght=sexocea n


weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

and of course we haven't heard from Sleazydream in a while since he dropped down to #21

if merely a counter can make that drastic of a change in people's online lives i would hate to see what happens when they are dealing with adverse situations in their personal lives

odd is all I can say about my ranking since my profitability is the same as it was when I was #11 and had 420k/day uniques. Weird weird weird
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ok well I really dont think these guys cheat. They may have exit console but I know alot about their systrem. Not that I wokr with them couse I really dont but they have very smart scripts that do help to get big traffic if they have a source of feeding the site tarffic to start it off with. They certainly do not cheat! THeir prod and quality of traffic might be very low but they dotn cheat. Their gallery script is very good and i am not going to talk about it because then everyone would go out and make such script hehe. Once again i am in NO WAY affiliated with them I just know how their things work and they started out small now they built their own CJ ring and they just decided to trade with some tgp's but of course they ignored the rule of no exit consoles.

I dont know about fantaporn but the webmaster of that site is not the same as the guys from longmechies.com
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Old 08-27-2002, 07:57 PM   #46
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Hey Joey from Mature Post where you at? I had this same argument with him while we were hanging out in Hollywood, swore to him that guys a cheating prick, with CP kicking around his site. Supposidly back than Sextracker was going to take them out of ST, they didnt, and now the little weezle has a bunch of sites in the top 20.

Ive never been much to care about the ST top 20, but if I worked as hard as a lot of you guys do on getting in the top 20, I would want to strangle him.

Maybe it was Christmas day he opened his site's, and they were a special gift, they went from 0 traffic to 500k in just 1 day, that special day.. Christmas... My ass.


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Old 08-27-2002, 09:55 PM   #48
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That's not cool to hitbot

Aren't you the same hornybunny that is pissing with Choker on some other boards? Pretty fucking lame of you to hit the guy up with a hitbot accusation. In fact I'd call that slandererous. In this business you either post proof, or shut the fuck up. You can do a lot of damage by accusing people - make sure you have IPs to back your ass up, or you can fuck yourself pretty fast.

I haven't seen any proof of these new sites hitbotting, either. But I have seen the exit consoles, and I have never hit a gallery on any of them myself (so I can't comment on the CP accusations) - that's reason enough not to want to do a trade. For me. If someone else is trading with them, I really don't care. I run my shit, they run their shit. Works better that way.
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Old 08-27-2002, 09:57 PM   #49
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Old 08-28-2002, 11:22 AM   #50
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