Ryan Steel from OCCash.com....finish our FUCKING programming job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

xxxjay · 05-24-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

the only reason I brought your name into it today Jay, is because the other times he would vanish for weeks at a time and I mentioned bringing this up to you, he would suddenly reappear...so I knew somehow you had some crazy power over him, at least enough to get him to reappear after not working for weeks at a time

I have no magic power over him. In fact, I already took your case to him on your behalf. This thread and dragging occash is totally unessesary.

BusterBunny · 05-24-2007, 05:57 PM

51............

Nicky · 05-24-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I have no magic power over him. In fact, I already took your case to him on your behalf. This thread and dragging occash is totally unessesary.

Misunderstandings happen all the time. I would also assume he work for OC when he is listed on the contact page as Tech Admin, but now I and everyone know better....

xxxjay · 05-24-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

Misunderstandings happen all the time. I would also assume he work for OC when he is listed on the contact page as Tech Admin, but now I and everyone know better....

Was this an OCCash project? No. It is something he took on freelance and we have nothing to do with. The deal was with bluespadegroup.inc, not OCCash.

Why does OCCash even wind up in the thread title?

Because Jace is willing to throw us under the bus for his own gains. There are a million other ways this could have been handled.

Jace took the low road.

On a bright note: I've never seen so many fake nicks come out in my life. It's like discovering new forms or troll life.

Phoenix · 05-24-2007, 06:07 PM

im using occash rss feeds in the blogs jace is building for me

he recommended them...so he cant hate you guys that much

Nicky · 05-24-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

On a bright note: I've never seen so many fake nicks come out in my life. It's like discovering new forms or troll life.

I have 5 of them

xxxjay · 05-24-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

im using occash rss feeds in the blogs jace is building for me

he recommended them...so he cant hate you guys that much

I know he doesn't hate us. I just am not a fan of how he handled this. I was already trying to help him when he published this thread.

LOL

CDSmith · 05-24-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I know he doesn't hate us. I just am not a fan of how he handled this. I was already trying to help him when he published this thread.

LOL

Maybe you should direct all that anger towards... hmm.... possibly at Ryan?

Just a thought.

tony286 · 05-24-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Listen assholes...the project Jace has in question (all of this I only found out today) was Ryan was supposed to be writing some real estate software for Jace. Ryan have Jace a "bro" rate. Jace kept adding stuff onto it to where Ryan just have him the code and then gave him back his money.

How does that have anything do do with OCCash? Jace just put our name in it so more people would click on his thread. And this was even after I played middleman with his emails back and forth from Jace to Ryan.

All I am trying to say: It is a really shitty thing to put the name of a company in the title of thread that the company has nothing to do with.

and calling us all assholes is good pr lol

tony286 · 05-24-2007, 06:22 PM

Also I hate to burst your balloon OC cash is not google that everyone says oh look. You did more harm to your companies image in your post then jaces title by ten times. Also let me tell you , when we were at tongue and groove I asked ryan about it and he said in a week it was going to be done. So before you assume Jace is in the wrong.

xxxjay · 05-24-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Maybe you should direct all that anger towards... hmm.... possibly at Ryan?

Just a thought.

He finishes all his jobs for me. Why should I be mad at him?

Phoenix · 05-24-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I know he doesn't hate us. I just am not a fan of how he handled this. I was already trying to help him when he published this thread.

LOL

hear ya loud and clear

dont worry...nothing can tarnish OCCash's reputation

you guys are coming along nicely...looking forward to when you guys are the top dogs..then i can remember back to when i dragged you into Chris's room in SD to smoke that thing and whammo.....in front of me you guys linked up..and didnt include me..lol

Sosa · 05-24-2007, 06:26 PM

this shit is gooood

seven · 05-24-2007, 06:43 PM

Ryan Steel
Technical Administrator
ICQ: 316594997
Email: [email protected]

Yet OCCash suggests that the thread title should've been "Ryan Finish Our Fucking Program" so i could wonder why he was calling out my 3 years old newphew on gfy? LOL or maybe Jace should've titled the thread "Ryan the one whose contact info is on Occash unupdated website, Finish our fucking Program". Dudes at Occash, am sure you guys are actually enjoying this since everyone knows no advertisement is bad advertisement and surely you are bumping the thread yourself as well so chill please

OzMan · 05-24-2007, 06:54 PM

The only thing debatable in this thread is whether the bromasters report should use "crash and burn" or "meltdown" in their title. But don't pay any attention to me, I'm just another fake nick

seeric · 05-24-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox

bump for more XXXJay meltdown extravaganza!

your mom is calling you for dinner. stay outta grown folk business please.

Aussie Rebel · 05-24-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OzMan

The only thing debatable in this thread is whether the bromasters report should use "crash and burn" or "meltdown" in their title. But don't pay any attention to me, I'm just another fake nick

frankfortuna · 05-24-2007, 07:14 PM

Regardless of whether he works for OCCash or not, when someone engages in a work for hire agreement outside of their employment, the employer has no responsibility for the matter.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

your mom is calling you for dinner. stay outta grown folk business please.

damn, i wish she was, to bad she can't cook and always asks me what im cooking for dinner... sometimes it sucks being the only one who knows how to cook

also, when is a good age to be concidered to be a "grown folk"? because tomorrow i turn 22, and i was sure hoping i was concidered to be a "grown folk" when i turned 18, i guess i was wrong, how old are you? 36? 40? maybe when im that old i can be a "grown folk"?

seeric · 05-24-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox

damn, i wish she was, to bad she can't cook and always asks me what im cooking for dinner... sometimes it sucks being the only one who knows how to cook

also, when is a good age to be concidered to be a "grown folk"? because tomorrow i turn 22, and i was sure hoping i was concidered to be a "grown folk" when i turned 18, i guess i was wrong, how old are you? 36? 40? maybe when im that old i can be a "grown folk"?

first, i said please, with the assumption that you know none of the (4) things involved. 1- jay, 2- ryan, 3- jace, 4 the story.

secondly, you're instigating more drama by not having the maturity to understand that when people get into things like this, they don't need help.

thirdly, i said please.

fourthly, all involved are friends of mine and i'd like to see them all work it out.

fifthly, i still haven't figured out what the fuck occash has to do with ryan taking freelance work for jace. that part is none of my biz, and yours too.

please stay out of it, or turn your sig off when you post in this thread to show everyone how much you care about the issue, and that its not about getting your sig in so your sponsor can see that you got in the big thread of the day.

thats all i'm saying.

thank you.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

first, i said please, with the assumption that you know none of the (4) things involved. 1- jay, 2- ryan, 3- jace, 4 the story.

secondly, you're instigating more drama by not having the maturity to understand that when people get into things like this, they don't need help.

thirdly, i said please.

fourthly, all involved are friends of mine and i'd like to see them all work it out.

fifthly, i still haven't figured out what the fuck occash has to do with ryan taking freelance work for jace. that part is none of my biz, and yours too.

please stay out of it, or turn your sig off when you post in this thread to show everyone how much you care about the issue, and that its not about getting your sig in so your sponsor can see that you got in the big thread of the day.

thats all i'm saying.

thank you.

A1R3K, i respect you and I'll reply maturely...

first, I'm not posting in here for sig views, I'd post in here the same way if i had a sig or not... I'm proving that by posting this without my sig on... whether it makes a difference or not, considering i have what, 4 other posts in here with my sig in it...

edit: fuck, i forgot to click the disable sig part in the reply, my bad...

second, I'm posting in here because i like Jace, i get along with him and hes a cool cat, and how Jay acted towards him was uncalled for and unprofessional, so i'm doing my part by keeping these threads alive, so people can see how he reacted and maybe throw a little insight at him and let him know "hey jay, maybe you should be a little more professional to reflect good on your business"

thirdly, if Ryan taking freelance jobs for Jace has anything to do with me, you, or occash, then why was it brought to the boards? its a public board, if we shouldn't have anything to do with it, it shouldn't have been brought here...

fourthly, out of respect for Jace, and you, this will be my last reply in this thread...

seeric · 05-24-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox

A1R3K, i respect you and I'll reply maturely...

first, I'm not posting in here for sig views, I'd post in here the same way if i had a sig or not... I'm proving that by posting this without my sig on... whether it makes a difference or not, considering i have what, 4 other posts in here with my sig in it...

edit: fuck, i forgot to click the disable sig part in the reply, my bad...

second, I'm posting in here because i like Jace, i get along with him and hes a cool cat, and how Jay acted towards him was uncalled for and unprofessional, so i'm doing my part by keeping these threads alive, so people can see how he reacted and maybe throw a little insight at him and let him know "hey jay, maybe you should be a little more professional to reflect good on your business"

thirdly, if Ryan taking freelance jobs for Jace has anything to do with me, you, or occash, then why was it brought to the boards? its a public board, if we shouldn't have anything to do with it, it shouldn't have been brought here...

fourthly, out of respect for Jace, and you, this will be my last reply in this thread...

i now believe that occash was inadvertently included based on perceptions and had this thread gone into the future and reposted itself, i don't believe at this point that you would see occash in the thread title.

nice post. that was mature and thought out.

thanks.

everyone have a good night, goin to sushi with a brunette than can give a fuck who didn't finish what programming job.

i hope that everyone can see the waste of money that fighting over stuff really is and just make whatever the conflict is right.

much love to ya all fellas.

night.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-24-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox

fourthly, out of respect for Jace, and you, this will be my last reply in this thread...

i lied.... this is my last reply

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

night.

night and have fun man

Tempest · 05-24-2007, 08:16 PM

This thread is funny.... It's GFY... Putting some program name in a thread to get views is the way it's done... What's the moto on here? Don't like it.. go somewhere else cause there's shit all you can do about it unless you pay Lens... And I really can't believe Jay would say Jace took the low road... That's hillarious...

geedub · 05-24-2007, 08:38 PM

bump it for the dramas???

TubeSubmitters · 05-25-2007, 01:27 AM

congrats to all the winners

StickyGreen · 05-25-2007, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

JACE...Ryan Steel is not an OCCash empoyee. We subcontract him on rare occasions. I don't appreciate you dragging the name of our company through the mud on the boards!

Check yourself, bro.

s9ann0 · 05-25-2007, 01:47 AM

if you need programming hit me up

mikeyddddd · 05-25-2007, 01:53 AM

Here's the popcorn

xxxjay · 05-26-2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frankfortuna

Regardless of whether he works for OCCash or not, when someone engages in a work for hire agreement outside of their employment, the employer has no responsibility for the matter.

Thankyou. That was my whole point.

scottybuzz · 05-26-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

Here's the popcorn

RaiDeN · 05-26-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP - I got your email, I forwarded it to Ryan, you and Ryan talked.

NOW DROP IT...YOU ARE PISSING ME OFF NOW!

then take him off your contact page or payroll..
its VERY obvious that you are trying to make your company "look" more then it is by putting temp-contracted on your info pages making it look really awesome, but when they screw up you react like this?

LOL

Love Sex · 05-26-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

your mom is calling you for dinner. stay outta grown folk business please.

this is more like sesame street for adults

CWeb · 05-26-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Love Sex

this is more like sesame street for adults

You not think Seseme Street is maybe a too sophisticated comparison?

urbanpimp · 05-26-2007, 04:58 PM

i love drama

Jace · 05-26-2007, 06:26 PM

LOL...just when I think this thread dies, the people that hate I posted it bump it up

i mean, come on, this was on page 4-5, no one was seeing it anymore and that shit was long gone, and who bumped it again? LOL

for a guy that is pretty upset I posted it, he sure is getting a lot of play off it

and here I felt bad for the attention it got, when all along he loves the attention it is getting

damn, I will be sure and bump it once a day for him that is for sure

Jace · 05-26-2007, 06:27 PM

oh yeah, I have AIDS

BradM · 05-26-2007, 06:59 PM

Wow, Jay comes off as a total coked up asshole. What a surprise, considering he IS a coked up asshole?

Axeman · 05-26-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

He finishes all his jobs for me. Why should I be mad at him?

Because he attatches his name to yours by introducing himself as Ryan from OCCash and using the email addy you provided him to conduct his business. Then he goes and flakes out on side projects he took, while using your company name and dragging it down. Your current/former employees are an extension of your company and I would be pissed at Ryan for still using that name and email to conduct side business with in the first place if not working with you, and I would be pissed at him for flaking out if he was still a contractor for you currently when flaking on the job.

Jace could have handled it maybe different, but the real blame falls on Ryan in this matter.

This issue doesn't also stop at employees/contractors working on side projects on their own time under your company flag, but also for some employees who post on these msg boards that spew their views all over the place while flying your company name and sig. (btw this comment isn't about OCCash, but all companies who have employees post on boards).

Keep wraps on the employees and severe ties to former employees so that your company name never gets dragged into a mess it isn't neccessarily involved in.

sharp · 05-26-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread.

You even knew OCCash had nothing to do with this, but you did it anyways.

We need to update that contact page. Andrew is our CTO now.

As far as your apology. It was pretty lame. I never knew of any fucking deal you guys had till I read this gay ass thread. If you have a deal with Ryan, work it out with him. I am nor anyone at OCCash not involved in what happened between you two at all.

Dragging OCCash into this is some lame ass shit. You just used OCCash to get people to click on your gay ass thread and dragged a bunch of innocent and univolved people into your bullshit. That's really shitty man.

So again...

Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread. Don't use "OCCash" to get people to click on your thread.

Catch my drift yet?

Lmao. You're trashing OCCash with your white trash attitude. I've never seen you act like this in other threads. You're wayyy out of line. Fuck you and your program.

DateDoc · 05-26-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

Here's the popcorn

Jace · 05-26-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd

Here's the popcorn

ok, that is some FUN-NAY shit!

calmlikeabomb · 05-26-2007, 10:39 PM

I've taken on this job for jace and will be taking care of it for him ; - )

tenderobject · 05-26-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Axeman

Because he attatches his name to yours by introducing himself as Ryan from OCCash and using the email addy you provided him to conduct his business. Then he goes and flakes out on side projects he took, while using your company name and dragging it down. Your current/former employees are an extension of your company and I would be pissed at Ryan for still using that name and email to conduct side business with in the first place if not working with you, and I would be pissed at him for flaking out if he was still a contractor for you currently when flaking on the job.

Jace could have handled it maybe different, but the real blame falls on Ryan in this matter.

This issue doesn't also stop at employees/contractors working on side projects on their own time under your company flag, but also for some employees who post on these msg boards that spew their views all over the place while flying your company name and sig. (btw this comment isn't about OCCash, but all companies who have employees post on boards).

Keep wraps on the employees and severe ties to former employees so that your company name never gets dragged into a mess it isn't neccessarily involved in.

wow! well said man!! damn, when will you hire me again for small design work? :P

tenderobject · 05-26-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by calmlikeabomb

I've taken on this job for jace and will be taking care of it for him ; - )

yo man how are you?

will hit you up sometime for some scyrpted questions

Axeman · 05-26-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tenderobject

wow! well said man!! damn, when will you hire me again for small design work? :P

We have a new project being worked on for a late summer release if not sooner. We will need lots of promo material done for it. You will definitely be on the list for some of the work!

Next batch of AH templates we need done, I will keep you in mind for a couple of them too.

- Brent

Tryme · 05-26-2007, 11:46 PM

bump for more to see!

CDSmith · 05-26-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

He finishes all his jobs for me. Why should I be mad at him?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman

Because he attatches his name to yours by introducing himself as Ryan from OCCash and using the email addy you provided him to conduct his business. Then he goes and flakes out on side projects he took, while using your company name and dragging it down. Your current/former employees are an extension of your company and I would be pissed at Ryan for still using that name and email to conduct side business with in the first place if not working with you, and I would be pissed at him for flaking out if he was still a contractor for you currently when flaking on the job.

Jace could have handled it maybe different, but the real blame falls on Ryan in this matter.

This issue doesn't also stop at employees/contractors working on side projects on their own time under your company flag, but also for some employees who post on these msg boards that spew their views all over the place while flying your company name and sig. (btw this comment isn't about OCCash, but all companies who have employees post on boards).

Keep wraps on the employees and severe ties to former employees so that your company name never gets dragged into a mess it isn't neccessarily involved in.

Thanks to Axeman for answering the question perfectly.

xxxjay take note.

I couldn't have said it any better or clearer.

Red Ezra · 05-27-2007, 12:40 AM

mad drama - I'm too tired to read it all - don't be hatin

sharp · 05-27-2007, 08:54 AM

Bump bump.

oh, and here:

You may need a bigger one, though.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Also I hate to burst your balloon OC cash is not google that everyone says oh look. You did more harm to your companies image in your post then jaces title by ten times. Also let me tell you , when we were at tongue and groove I asked ryan about it and he said in a week it was going to be done. So before you assume Jace is in the wrong.

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	LOL...just when I think this thread dies, the people that hate I posted it bump it up i mean, come on, this was on page 4-5, no one was seeing it anymore and that shit was long gone, and who bumped it again? LOL for a guy that is pretty upset I posted it, he sure is getting a lot of play off it and here I felt bad for the attention it got, when all along he loves the attention it is getting damn, I will be sure and bump it once a day for him that is for sure

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