U.S. Net Tax Law Possible By Fall - GoFuckYourself.com

TheDoc · 05-24-2007, 11:05 AM

Source news.com.com:
"State and local governments this week resumed a push to lobby Congress for far-reaching changes on two different fronts: gaining the ability to impose sales taxes on Net shopping, and being able to levy new monthly taxes on DSL and other connections. One senator is even predicting taxes on e-mail."

"But with Democrats now in control of both chambers of Congress, the political dynamic appears to have shifted in favor of the pro-tax advocates and their allies on Capitol Hill. The NetChoice coalition, which counts as members eBay, Yahoo and the Electronic Retailing Association and opposes the sales tax plan, fears that the partisan shift will spell trouble."

Great..... Nothing like more taxes to screw with us all a little more. It doesn't sound like it has much for boundaries on who we tax, is it everyone, international too, per state? And more ISP taxes? Will paysites add the tax on or eat it from the net profits?

Does anyone in our gov think? About the negative impacts this will have with online sales, small businesses, and enforcement?

What are the nice, clean, safe, tax free or low tax countries again?

mattz · 05-24-2007, 11:09 AM

wow, that is just pure bullshit at its best, taxes on email? wtf

Sosa · 05-24-2007, 11:10 AM

every little fucking penny for more fucking bombs

TheDoc · 05-24-2007, 11:14 AM

Lots of people won't have much worries with this tax law, I'm sure it will follow up with many instate tax laws in most states for Internet sales. I think many people run rather automated, from the processor, to nats, to payouts.. From adult to mainstream, this is one major technical shift that would have to be made.

"Enzi's bill, introduced this week, relies on the agreement when providing "federal authorization" to require out-of-state retailers "to collect and remit the sales and use taxes" due on the purchase. (Small businesses with less than $5 million in out-of-state sales are exempted.)"

What % of US based online companies move more than $5m in out-of-state (country?) business? $400k+ a month in online sales business, that' has to cut out a pretty damn big % of the people, may not be so hard business wise for these companies to comply, still sucks though.

"sales and use taxes" - A use tax.. what the hell.

GatorB · 05-24-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Source news.com.com:
"State and local governments this week resumed a push to lobby Congress for far-reaching changes on two different fronts: gaining the ability to impose sales taxes on Net shopping, and being able to levy new monthly taxes on DSL and other connections. One senator is even predicting taxes on e-mail."

"But with Democrats now in control of both chambers of Congress, the political dynamic appears to have shifted in favor of the pro-tax advocates and their allies on Capitol Hill. The NetChoice coalition, which counts as members eBay, Yahoo and the Electronic Retailing Association and opposes the sales tax plan, fears that the partisan shift will spell trouble."

Great..... Nothing like more taxes to screw with us all a little more. It doesn't sound like it has much for boundaries on who we tax, is it everyone, international too, per state? And more ISP taxes? Will paysites add the tax on or eat it from the net profits?

Does anyone in our gov think? About the negative impacts this will have with online sales, small businesses, and enforcement?

What are the nice, clean, safe, tax free or low tax countries again?

Most retailers already charge local sales tax. For example if you buy something from wal-mart they'll charge you the sales tax of the area you have listed as your home address. And they've been doing that for years.

What do paysites have to do with ISP taxes? ISP taxes are no different that the taxes you pay for cable or phone service.

Don't worry Congress will extend the tax ban and if not if Mr Bushy hates taxes so much then he should veto it right?

Now please untie the knot in your panties. You act like this something new.

stickyfingerz · 05-24-2007, 11:22 AM

Make sure to vote democrat next election if you like taxes.

Snake Doctor · 05-24-2007, 11:25 AM

Taxes imposed solely on the internet would be totally stupid.

I think that making people pay their local sales tax rate on purchases made online is only fair though. (On tangible goods that are shipped into the state)

Local merchants who pay local taxes shouldn't be at a disadvantage to an online retailer in another state.

Jimmy Rock · 05-24-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Make sure to vote democrat next election if you like taxes.

you cant win with either party, both ways your screwed if not one thing its another.. VOTE for None of the Above!

TheDoc · 05-24-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Most retailers already charge local sales tax. For example if you buy something from wal-mart they'll charge you the sales tax of the area you have listed as your home address. And they've been doing that for years.

What do paysites have to do with ISP taxes? ISP taxes are no different that the taxes you pay for cable or phone service.

Don't worry Congress will extend the tax ban and if not if Mr Bushy hates taxes so much then he should veto it right?

Now please untie the knot in your panties. You act like this something new.

No, I'm not acting like it's something new.. It could expire in Nov, and it's being pushed to not veto it, right?

This is a pretty big difference between walmart and pure online companies not setup to do this at all, that run pure automated software, that many don't control, setup years ago, are very small operation ran companies, or acually are fully virtual ran companies which have no product but do process transactions. It's a huge difference.

Want does this have to do with ISP tax? Think outside the box.. Millions of Americans already drop or don't have 'net services due to the price, this 'tax' will not help situations any, since they will pass the Tax to the user.

I hope it gets a nice big kick in the veto ass, but with all the recent bs that has went through, hell yeah my panties are in a knot.

edgeprod · 05-24-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

"But with Democrats now in control of both chambers of Congress, the political dynamic appears to have shifted in favor of the pro-tax advocates and their allies on Capitol Hill."

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Originally Posted by Sosa

every little fucking penny for more fucking bombs

Read again -- if Democrats are imposing a 'net tax, and one on e-mail, they'll use it to give to people too lazy to get a job, not to kill terrorists. I think you're safe on this one.

directfiesta · 05-24-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Make sure to vote democrat next election if you like taxes.

amazing how you function ....

directfiesta · 05-24-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Taxes imposed solely on the internet would be totally stupid.

I think that making people pay their local sales tax rate on purchases made online is only fair though. (On tangible goods that are shipped into the state)

Local merchants who pay local taxes shouldn't be at a disadvantage to an online retailer in another state.

We pay taxes in Canada on online shopping.
And it is only normal .... for fair competition.

I also charge taxes to my hardgoods and hosting clients, if they are located in Canada ...

Nothing to do with your 2 party war ...

CWeb · 05-24-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

amazing how you function ....

crockett · 05-24-2007, 12:53 PM

Either you put up with assholes who are trying to put you in jail Republicans or you have assholes whom want to tax you to death. Democrats.

I say let the terrorists nuke DC then we can start over..

IllTestYourGirls · 05-24-2007, 12:57 PM

wages going down taxes going up.... trying to make a welfare working class. Flood the US with undereducated and poor to drive the wages down, then tax the hell out of everyone and give the poorest money...hmmm

war in Iraq = $100 billion a year

Illegal Immigrants = over $250 billion a year

Which will bankrupt us first? We can leave Iraq and stop spending money there.

You change illegals status and you just change the name of the group of people you are giving money to.

Work your crops serfs

http://LP.ORG time for a real change

crockett · 05-24-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

wages going down taxes going up.... trying to make a welfare working class. Flood the US with undereducated and poor to drive the wages down, then tax the hell out of everyone and give the poorest money...hmmm

war in Iraq = $100 billion a year

Illegal Immigrants = over $250 billion a year

Which will bankrupt us first? We can leave Iraq and stop spending money there.

You change illegals status and you just change the name of the group of people you are giving money to.

Work your crops serfs

http://LP.ORG time for a real change

gotta compete with China somehow..

IllTestYourGirls · 05-24-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

gotta compete with China somehow..

Rubbish total rubbish

05-24-2007, 11:05 AM	#1
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	U.S. Net Tax Law Possible By Fall Source news.com.com: "State and local governments this week resumed a push to lobby Congress for far-reaching changes on two different fronts: gaining the ability to impose sales taxes on Net shopping, and being able to levy new monthly taxes on DSL and other connections. One senator is even predicting taxes on e-mail." "But with Democrats now in control of both chambers of Congress, the political dynamic appears to have shifted in favor of the pro-tax advocates and their allies on Capitol Hill. The NetChoice coalition, which counts as members eBay, Yahoo and the Electronic Retailing Association and opposes the sales tax plan, fears that the partisan shift will spell trouble." Great..... Nothing like more taxes to screw with us all a little more. It doesn't sound like it has much for boundaries on who we tax, is it everyone, international too, per state? And more ISP taxes? Will paysites add the tax on or eat it from the net profits? Does anyone in our gov think? About the negative impacts this will have with online sales, small businesses, and enforcement? What are the nice, clean, safe, tax free or low tax countries again? __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

05-24-2007, 11:14 AM	#4
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Lots of people won't have much worries with this tax law, I'm sure it will follow up with many instate tax laws in most states for Internet sales. I think many people run rather automated, from the processor, to nats, to payouts.. From adult to mainstream, this is one major technical shift that would have to be made. "Enzi's bill, introduced this week, relies on the agreement when providing "federal authorization" to require out-of-state retailers "to collect and remit the sales and use taxes" due on the purchase. (Small businesses with less than $5 million in out-of-state sales are exempted.)" What % of US based online companies move more than $5m in out-of-state (country?) business? $400k+ a month in online sales business, that' has to cut out a pretty damn big % of the people, may not be so hard business wise for these companies to comply, still sucks though. "sales and use taxes" - A use tax.. what the hell. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

05-24-2007, 12:53 PM	#14
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Either you put up with assholes who are trying to put you in jail Republicans or you have assholes whom want to tax you to death. Democrats. I say let the terrorists nuke DC then we can start over.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

05-24-2007, 12:57 PM	#15
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	wages going down taxes going up.... trying to make a welfare working class. Flood the US with undereducated and poor to drive the wages down, then tax the hell out of everyone and give the poorest money...hmmm war in Iraq = $100 billion a year Illegal Immigrants = over $250 billion a year Which will bankrupt us first? We can leave Iraq and stop spending money there. You change illegals status and you just change the name of the group of people you are giving money to. Work your crops serfs http://LP.ORG time for a real change __________________

05-24-2007, 11:09 AM	#2
mattz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 7,697	wow, that is just pure bullshit at its best, taxes on email? wtf

05-24-2007, 11:10 AM	#3
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	every little fucking penny for more fucking bombs

05-24-2007, 11:22 AM	#6
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,983	Make sure to vote democrat next election if you like taxes.

05-24-2007, 11:25 AM	#7
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Taxes imposed solely on the internet would be totally stupid. I think that making people pay their local sales tax rate on purchases made online is only fair though. (On tangible goods that are shipped into the state) Local merchants who pay local taxes shouldn't be at a disadvantage to an online retailer in another state.