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stickyfingerz 05-25-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CWeb (Post 12489801)
The pointless troll speak?

Go fuck a monkey webby you fat old fag.

CWeb 05-25-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12489813)
Go fuck a monkey webby you fat old fag.

The troll's charm is overwhelming... yet another pointless post in a thread.

nekrom 05-25-2007 07:11 PM

Temperature measurements in celcius.

0-10c = freezing your nads off
10-15c = bloody cold
15-20c = cold to mild
20-25c = nice warm day
25-35c = hot
35-40c = fucking hot put on the air-con
40+c = move to tasmania
-N

BlackCrayon 05-25-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wizhard (Post 12477879)
.......when most of Europe did ?

I never saw the benefit of any country switching to metric. Whats the point?

EBORG9 05-25-2007 09:29 PM

Why should we..the whole world speaks our language and converts to our standards, not the other way around.
Haven't you figured out who's boss around this rock yet?
Besides...I'll take $3.35 a gallon, over 2.95 GBP's a litter any day.

JP513 05-25-2007 09:34 PM

Because we Americans are too stubborn to realize when another system is better and more sensible than what we're already used to. And in the rare instance when we DO realize it, we're too lazy to want to change.

CWeb 05-25-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490408)
Why should we..the whole world speaks our language and converts to our standards, not the other way around.

Dreaming much lately? :winkwink:

The commerical language of the world is English and the metric system is the basis of measurement.

jryan89 05-25-2007 09:35 PM

Fuck europe and the metric system! HA......

EBORG9 05-25-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CWeb (Post 12490432)
Dreaming much lately? :winkwink:

The commerical language of the world is English and the metric system is the basis of measurement.

I'll still take my gas in gallons:thumbsup

directfiesta 05-25-2007 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490408)
Why should we..the whole world speaks our language and converts to our standards, not the other way around.
Haven't you figured out who's boss around this rock yet?
Besides...I'll take $3.35 a gallon, over 2.95 GBP's a litter any day.

Nasa uses metric ...

And educate yourself a bit; this way you will be an educated redneck instead of just a plain stupid one ... :2 cents:

http://standards.nasa.gov/history_metric.pdf

CWeb 05-25-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490441)
I'll still take my gas in gallons:thumbsup

Is it my fault you are years behind? :winkwink:

directfiesta 05-25-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490408)
the whole world ... converts to our standards, not the other way around.

you need to invade a few other countries .... :1orglaugh

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ric_system.png
Three countries use non-metric measurement systems; Liberia, Myanmar, and the United States


Good company there .... :upsidedow

CWeb 05-25-2007 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jryan89 (Post 12490439)
Fuck europe and the metric system! HA......

Europe? The world uses the metric system - apart from around two or three backward nations :pimp

EBORG9 05-25-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 12490462)
Nasa uses metric ...

And educate yourself a bit; this way you will be an educated redneck instead of just a plain stupid one ... :2 cents:

http://standards.nasa.gov/history_metric.pdf

I could never be a redneck, no matter how dumb I may sound in this thread.

FYI, we learned the metric system in school, and then they just stopped teaching it. The argument at the time is that the U.S. lacked the funds to convert at that time, and it would put the already struggling auto industry in turmoil.
It was the Carter administration (1976-1980), we were in a recession, just coming off Vietnam 1965-1973), and unemployment was at 18%.
I was there, so there goes the dumb redneck comment, huh?

Nothing like actually living history:thumbsup

aico 05-25-2007 09:49 PM

Because then we would have to rename Football to 30.48cm Ball

CWeb 05-25-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490483)
FYI, we learned the metric system in school, and then they just stopped teaching it. The argument at the time is that the U.S. lacked the funds to convert at that time, and it would put the already struggling auto industry in turmoil.

Seriously ... yep, can see that. The other ongoing and increasing problem is that it would cost even more now to convert - crazy money.

EBORG9 05-25-2007 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EBORG9 (Post 12490483)
I could never be a redneck, no matter how dumb I may sound in this thread.

FYI, we learned the metric system in school, and then they just stopped teaching it. The argument at the time is that the U.S. lacked the funds to convert at that time, and it would put the already struggling auto industry in turmoil.
It was the Carter administration (1976-1980), we were in a recession, just coming off Vietnam 1965-1973), and unemployment was at 18%.
I was there, so there goes the dumb redneck comment, huh?

Nothing like actually living history:thumbsup

To specify, I was there, and living in Detroit, MI, so I saw first hand what changing the standard of measurement would have done to an already horrible economy. In the 70's the Auto industry was our leading industry in America.
It was just bad timing, and if we had tried to change at that time, it would have been a disaster.
The amount of money, not just for education, but to re tool Ford Chrysler, and GM, and train all of the employees..not to mention the military, shipping, the highways, the entire infrastructure of the country was just not there.

That's why we didn't switch, and it was probably the smartest decision that the Carter Administration made in the whole term.

stev0 05-25-2007 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12480364)
Why don't the Euros learn our way? Celcius WTF is that? You can't tell anything by that. I can tell 85F is a lot fucking hotter than 55F because it's 30 fucking degrees difference. The difference between 29-12 well doesn't seem too bad yet it the same fucking thing in celcius. If it's 120F degrees in Arizona I know it's WAY fucking hot. Because it's 20 over 100 which is 3 digits instead of 2. 49C WTF, is that hot or not? Who fucking knows?

:Oh crap

aico 05-25-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 12480364)
Why don't the Euros learn our way? Celcius WTF is that? You can't tell anything by that.

Ya the 0° = Freezing and 100° = boiling, is a tough concept to grasp. :1orglaugh

CWeb 05-25-2007 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 12490880)
Ya the 0° = Freezing and 100° = boiling, is a tough concept to grasp. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

viva celebs 05-26-2007 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 12489946)
15-20c = cold to mild

fuck you, thats when we sunbath in this country!

nekrom 05-26-2007 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by viva celebs (Post 12490946)
fuck you, thats when we sunbath in this country!

Hahaha. :thumbsup

-N

Phil21 05-26-2007 02:39 AM

google "inertia" - that's why. Period.

The metric system obviously is better, but both re-teaching (possible) and re-doing EVERYTHING in the country is obviously quite damned expensive. Then you have to deal with a generation or two of Americans who don't truly "think" in metric. Hell, I probably deal with metric length measurements more than 99% of Americans, and I still can't really "think" in that form. When I'm trying to envision how long 10 meters is, I have to do the "well, 1 meter is about 3 feet long.. sooo..." sort of calculation.

So basically to switch you need to start by teaching a new generation to think in the metric system first so it's pretty natural. This gets the initial "wtf!" resistance down quite a bit.

Then you need to come up with a way to force industry to switch over, while not overly burdening it. E.g. some form of attrition - (new highway sign needed? it's now in metric! - vs. "hey, let's switch all 5 million signs in the state overnight").

While the person posting about F vs. C had a point, it was lost in the retarded telling of it. I do believe F is actually much more "natural" of a tempature scale for humans that are not doing scientific calculations. F (like I could spell it :) scales more naturally in the ranges we use day to day e.g. the difference between "it's hot out and you're going to want to wear shorts" and "it's a normal warm day and pants are fine" is much more pronouced. A 20 degree difference vs. a 5 degree difference shows the actual effects on humans a bit better, in my opinion. I could simply just be so used to F that C seems patently absurd to me in comparison. I'm sure the vise-versa is true!

All in all, it comes down to money. If we could *poof* one day wake up and everything was now in metric, I think people would in general bitch a lot but learn the new stuff pretty quick. However, due to the expense of such an undertaking the question is more "why would we?". If I'm a business, why do I want to spend the money (no matter how small or large) on re-tooling for a new measurement system, just for some common esoteric good down the road?

As in all things in this world, it comes down to money in the end.

EBORG9 05-26-2007 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil21 (Post 12491189)

As in all things in this world, it comes down to money in the end.

Exactly, my point, and economically the real reason.
At the time conversion was on the table, it came down to, what would cost less.... educating, and changing the entire infrastructure of the country and it's industries, or converting on the fly.
It came out to be the latter.
Until there is some concrete , economical proof, that American Industry and trade loose money , by not converting...we never will.





..and I will still take my gas in gallons:thumbsup

lucas131 05-26-2007 06:10 AM

Americans are idiots :winkwink:

Vlad 05-26-2007 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 12491592)
Americans are idiots :winkwink:

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:mad:

Porn Farmer 05-26-2007 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 12490430)
Because we Americans are too stubborn to realize when another system is better and more sensible than what we're already used to. And in the rare instance when we DO realize it, we're too lazy to want to change.

Bingo! We have a winner. Thank you for your honesty sir!

Porn Farmer 05-26-2007 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by viva celebs (Post 12490946)
fuck you, thats when we sunbath in this country!

Sucks to be you! :1orglaugh

I guess I take Australia for granted.

Porn Farmer 05-26-2007 06:33 AM

So the excuses we've heard from Americans about not changing to the metric system is:

1) They couldn't afford it. :1orglaugh
2) They don't understand something as complex as dividing by 10 or 100. :1orglaugh

This thread is a laugh a minute. :1orglaugh

ServerGenius 05-26-2007 06:54 AM

It would have taken centuries before the Americans would have grasped the metric system

wizhard 05-26-2007 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12491641)
So the excuses we've heard from Americans about not changing to the metric system is:

1) They couldn't afford it. :1orglaugh
2) They don't understand something as complex as dividing by 10 or 100. :1orglaugh

This thread is a laugh a minute. :1orglaugh


Personaly I don't buy either of the two main reasons given in this thread for the US's reluctance to swap from Imperial to Metric. In truth America has to some degree allways acted in a somewhat superior, isolationist manner and I wonder whether their reluctance to change is a result of jingoistic pride mixed with a touch of arrogance.

If the US changed now would it be seen as weakness and a need to fit in with their global "competitors" who are begging to overtake them economicaly ?

directfiesta 05-26-2007 07:20 AM

because they have twelve fingers .....

EBORG9 05-26-2007 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Porn Farmer (Post 12491641)
So the excuses we've heard from Americans about not changing to the metric system is:

1) They couldn't afford it. :1orglaugh
2) They don't understand something as complex as dividing by 10 or 100. :1orglaugh

This thread is a laugh a minute. :1orglaugh

You forgot one...We Don't Give a Fuck! And quite frankly, nobody has brought it up since the 80's.
We got way more pressing shit to worry about, and it really doesn't matter to us.
Our Jets can still bomb, our ships can still patrol the Persian Gulf so the world can have oil, and 100yard dash is now the 100meter dash, and we still kick ass at the Olympics....what's the problem?
What's next, we have to start using Euros, or GBP's ? (Although I'll take a few of those right now)
It's on the cars, everything with numbers and measurements has both conversions, we have the tools at our disposal, we can convert it when we need to in about 3 seconds. Why do we have to change all the highway signs?
What's the big deal?

EBORG9 05-26-2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wizhard (Post 12491718)
Personaly I don't buy either of the two main reasons given in this thread for the US's reluctance to swap from Imperial to Metric. In truth America has to some degree allways acted in a somewhat superior, isolationist manner and I wonder whether their reluctance to change is a result of jingoistic pride mixed with a touch of arrogance.

If the US changed now would it be seen as weakness and a need to fit in with their global "competitors" who are begging to overtake them economically ?

No seriously. It really is true about the timing, and the main concern was industry, in a bad economy. After that, we just didn't care. It's not imperialistic, why do we have to change because everyone else wanted to?

It was the idea of a few countries in the world, not ours. The metric system has, and will have nothing to do with anyones economy.

And of course we are isolationists, that's how the country was founded. To get away from imperialistic rule.
As far as taking us economically, as they say at the big dogs poker table, "If you got the cards, play 'em."

chodadog 05-26-2007 08:14 AM

People don't seem to realize that the whole world hasn't gone fully metric/SI just yet. How big are the rims on your cars? How big are your monitors? The fact that sheets of steel world wide come in 8 foot x 4 foot size sheets by standard. All piping around the world is measured in inches and welded with a 3.2mm (or 1/8 inch) weld.

The imperial system is well and truly alive world wide, not just in the USA.

But yes, i do hate having to convert whenever the situation comes up. Bastards. ;)

Gumballs 05-26-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 12477906)
Cause my dick is 12"s not 30.5 CM. :disgust

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh To god damn funny.


I think it is because we want to fuck with the rest of the world and have a fucked up old english system, known as the standard system. Hell even England got away from their own system WTF!:(

I would prefer the metric system myself much easier.

SPACE GLIDER 05-28-2007 01:04 AM

Metric System ... will NOT happen for the majority of Americans.

Blum 05-28-2007 01:13 AM

In the UK we fight the metric system. Government adopted it as our standard, but we still go to the pub and ask for a pint of beer, we go to the butcher and ask for a pound of meat. Our on-road speed limit signs are set up in miles per hour and my dick is still only five fucking inches! Bugger!
Blum


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