A/S/L pics anyone?

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I hope your this sharp in person I look forward to your panel. :)

What you call theoretical losses would more accurately be called unmeasurable losses and the difference is not merely semantics.

We have no idea whether torrent sites cost online porn 10 cents a year or 10 million dollars a year. We do not know what share of that loss is borne by specific sponsors. But there is plenty of evidence from related industries to suggest that the losses are far more likely to be large than insignificant and one aspect of professional business management is about control.

It is therefore absolutely not good business sense to assist in any shape or form, entities you believe are likely to be costing you significant revenue, simply because you cannot measure that loss.

A relevant example would be the American Express decision to pull out of processing for adult sites. They would have had firm figures as to the direct cost of that decision, but only estimates of its positive impact. The possibility exists that their estimates might have been wrong, but if you understand your business, you make such estimates based on whatever information is available and on your own experience. You do not ignore the problem, just because all the numbers are not accurately quantifiable.

The old Smokey would have undeleted the original thread and made it a permanent sticky. You're no fun since you left the dark side. :2 cents:

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Oh how I miss the good old days:1orglaugh

I heard from an anonymous industry vet that no serious webmaster post here anymore...

Might have to do with that kind of moderation and the perpetual whoring.

I like this place but I have to agree that it's not perfect.

Do the torrent sites ignore CP reports or do they remove the offending torrents?

The stolen adult content.... don't assume it's all stolen. A number of webmasters upload their own stuff with ads for sites.

Pirated software.... How many webmasters paid $650 for their copy of Photoshop?

Just one anonymous industry vet? :winkwink:

it gets alot more likely that another board will succeed everytime they censor the posts without explaining themselves.

part of what made gfy popular and what makes it usefull is the fact if you found something unethical/illegal you could call the sponsor out and they would can the affiliate or do some explaining.. this method has worked very well.

the only sponsors who didnt back themselves up were renegades who didnt buy sponsorship etc

now it seems times are changing , the old methods don't work for people paying advertising on gfy.. this seriously devalues the ads..

I used to be able to signup for top sponsors knowing that if there was any problems i could always call them on it in along with the rest of the industry. This makes the likelyhood of me signing up alot higher right ?

heh well i suppose the difference is the importance of the topic.. i dont mind fucking around when the topic is semi-serious and nobody is getting hurt. But this is a very serious issue and i'm trying to start off as nice as i possibly know how without ignoring the issue.

dont worry pretty soon torrent sites are going to out number tgp/mgp sites ....

agreed .. but this isn't about the legitimacy of torrent sites , its simply about adultfriendfinder ads being displayed DIRECTLY next to child porn torrent downloads

the thread was about HARD FAST PROOF that adult friendfinder ads were being displayed directly next to CHILD PORN TORRENTS.

theres no "claiming about it" i didnt post direct links to child porn because its againt the rules , and silly to do when any f the mods know my icq could say "prove it " , bam screenshots links etc
theres was no allegation just me stating a fact anyone can verify with a keyboard and a click

the fact they deleted the thread implies, we shouldnt as an industry be concerned about child porn being exploited , and thats a very serious dip in ethics..


In the times of old this would have been solved very simply. torrent sites removes child porn torrents or advertiser drops torrent site.

I have nothing against torrent sites but they should play by the same rules everyone else does and has been up until now

I find smokey to be helpful and informative......

I'd be tippin this guy runs torrent sites

times of old?

like 2005?

or did you go by a different name in "times of old"

Times of old were not diferent
I still remeber back in 98 having a drunken chat with one of the biggest programer owners of all and it wasnt even 12 clicks telling me that one affilate had to 2 servers installed just to handel his traffic so did they give a fuck were it came from ? No he was still converting at 400 to 1

No, more like the silly numbers of "hundreds of billions of dollars lost to software piracy". The actual losses occur only when someone who would have gone to the store and paid for the product goes to a torrent site and downloads it instead. Everyone else is just a freeloader, and the minute they would have to pay, they would stop using your product.

Branding it a totally different game.

yes , no and yes

100 WTF's?

yes they were, thats why i am mentioning it..

Theres wasnt a time an affilitae couldnt point out a page with child porn torrents /links / pics etcx and the advertiser would pull the affiliate or the site would pull the page.. easy shmeazie.. there have always been renegades when it came to email spam , warez , etc etc , but for child porn we pretty well stood as a solid group.. we dont advertise near it.. its taboo ..

especially not gfy advertisers.

Smkeythebear still crying?

Smokey - got a question for you, ICQ me please 407749108