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28% of Americans thinks George Bush is doing a good job... do you?

05-22-2007, 06:09 PM

I have a simple question, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

I don't know of anyone who thinks Bush is doing a good job but obviously a full 28% of citizens do.

Do you think he's doing a good job?

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05-22-2007, 06:14 PM

Those 28% are the uber-christian right, the neo-cons, and Rick Berman.
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05-22-2007, 06:16 PM

Doing a good job at what? Doing a good job at being an idiot? Well then yes he is doing a great job lol...

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05-22-2007, 06:18 PM

There are people on this board that think he is doing a good job... Look around... you are surrounded by idiots.
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05-22-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by nation-x;

There are people on this board that think he is doing a good job... Look around... you are surrounded by idiots.

I know there are. That's why I posted this thread. Someone here has to like this guy if 28% of the people in the US approve of him.

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05-22-2007, 06:22 PM

no I dont and those 28% are people who think oreilly and rush are serious news commentators .
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05-22-2007, 06:26 PM

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05-22-2007, 06:26 PM

If only Chevy Chase was still on TV. He'd be eating this guy alive.

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05-22-2007, 06:28 PM

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no I dont and those 28% are people who think oreilly and rush are serious news commentators .

Excuse me sir, you are going to have to reconsider O'reilly. He's a mighty fine journalist that doesn't deserve your brand of slander. heh

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05-22-2007, 06:30 PM

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Doing a good job at what? Doing a good job at being an idiot? Well then yes he is doing a great job lol...

So are you saying he's not good? I challenge you to point out just one idiotic thing he's done... oh wait, that's too easy.

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05-22-2007, 06:31 PM

He is so stubborn about the Iraq war that it really makes you wonder about the true motives... Any other regular person would realize they lost and the whole damn country wants us out of Iraq, but Bush keeps persisting. They're all so worried about what will become of Iraq if we leave. lol, fuck Iraq, we have enough problems to take care of here at home.....wtf...

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05-22-2007, 06:35 PM

It's a catch 22. We leave and the country goes to shit and the whole world gets to rub it in our face for the next hundred years.

We stay and it stays at a mid level of shit and people still hate us somewhat but we look responsible.

Damned if we do, damned if we don't.

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05-22-2007, 06:47 PM

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05-22-2007, 06:54 PM

It really depends. The other night a friend of mines wife said something about her supporting Bush. We started talking about it and she really thinks he is great. As we talk I come to realize that she doesn't watch the news or listen to talk radio or read the paper. As I start pointing things out she was actually surprised to hear that Saddam wasn't behind 9/11. I was floored.

Obviously there are people out there that don't pay attention, don't care and will support anyone.
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05-22-2007, 06:56 PM

That's really fucking scary.

Was she a stupid woman? Could you tell before you got in depth with her?

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05-22-2007, 07:02 PM

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she was actually surprised to hear that Saddam wasn't behind 9/11.

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05-22-2007, 07:59 PM

%28 is bullshit. As with most polls it's only a small sampling of the crowd and it's bullshit.

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05-22-2007, 08:15 PM

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That's really fucking scary.

Was she a stupid woman? Could you tell before you got in depth with her?

I have known her for a long time and she is a smart person. I knew she was a republican, but we had never really talked about politics. Then someone mentioned Iraq and I said something to the effect of: "We lost this war the day we invaded." and she said something like: "If we didn't invade they would have attacked us again." I replied: " You know Iraq didn't attack us right?" She then said: "Yeah, but Saddam worked with them and was behind it." I just about fell on the floor.

We talked for a while and basically she heard what Bush said before we invaded and still believed all of those things to be true. What was the saddest part of the thing was I asked her to tell me what he has done that is good. She named things, I shot them down and in the end she ended up just saying, "Well, I still think he is good."

So there are people that will think what they think no matter what evidence is presented to them.

I think Bush was handed a shitty stick right at the beginning of his presidency. With Worldcom, Enron, recession and 9/11 all in one year. But I think he really got himself sidetracked. I think he thought we would be in and out of Iraq in 9 months then when things went wrong he had no plan B and has been scrambling since. Add in the fact that he has set himself up as a guy who never flip flops and he had his back to the wall and didn't allow himself to change course and now we are stuck in a situation that probably doesn't have a good ending. He basically gambled his entire presidency on Iraq and unless it turns out good I think history will frown on him.
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05-22-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by xclusive

%28 is bullshit. As with most polls it's only a small sampling of the crowd and it's bullshit.

you would be surprised how accurate many polls really are.
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05-22-2007, 08:21 PM

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I think he thought we would be in and out of Iraq in 9 months then when things went wrong he had no plan B and has been scrambling since.

I couldn't disagree more. They're spending billions to rebuild the oil infrastructure. Do you really think they're doing that out the goodness of their hearts? IMO, they're there for the long haul. It was a war of conquest, man

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05-22-2007, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by DTK;

I couldn't disagree more. They're spending billions to rebuild the oil infrastructure. Do you really think they're doing that out the goodness of their hearts? IMO, they're there for the long haul. It was a war of conquest, man

Without a doubt. All wars are in one way or another.

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05-22-2007, 08:28 PM

26% of US muslim youth think suicide bombings are justified.
now what?

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05-22-2007, 08:31 PM

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26% of US muslim youth think suicide bombings are justified.
now what?

What do you think of the suicide bombings by the Palestinians on the Gaza strip?

They really don't have the firepower to fight Israel and no one will help them because Israel is protected by us. So, what can they do?

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05-22-2007, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by DTK

I couldn't disagree more. They're spending billions to rebuild the oil infrastructure. Do you really think they're doing that out the goodness of their hearts? IMO, they're there for the long haul. It was a war of conquest, man

I agree they are spending tons ot rebuild the oil infrastructure of the country and that they planned for us to have a long term influnence on the country. I think they felt like we would roll in, kick saddam out, put a nice US friendly democracy in power and then reap the oil rewards and that this wouldn't take much time or money. Here are a couple of great quotes:

"In terms of the American taxpayers contribution, [$1.7 billion] is it for the US. The rest of the rebuilding of Iraq will be done by other countries and Iraqi oil revenues. The American part of this will be 1.7 billion. We have no plans for any further-on funding for this. " - USAID Director Andrew Natsios 4/23/03

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"Iraq will be an affordable endeavor that will not require sustained aid and will be in the range of $50 billion to $60 billion" - Budget Director Mitch Daniels 03/28/03

Clearly they weren't expecting what happened and so they probably didn't plan for it. Once we found ourselves involved in something we weren't ready for things got ugly and expensive fast.
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05-22-2007, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

What do you think of the suicide bombings by the Palestinians on the Gaza strip?

They really don't have the firepower to fight Israel and no one will help them because Israel is protected by us. So, what can they do?

well, for starters they can target military targets not civilians. If you are fighting a war and you target military targets (even if you targeting is done via suicide bomb) most people consider you a form of a guerrilla fighter. When you purposely target civilians you are a terrorist. It's going to be hard to get sympathy for your cause when you are killing innocent people.
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05-22-2007, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

What do you think of the suicide bombings by the Palestinians on the Gaza strip?

They really don't have the firepower to fight Israel and no one will help them because Israel is protected by us. So, what can they do?

This question disappoints me. I like you. this question makes me question that.

The Palestinians need only live in peace to receive it.
They choose not to. so they die. as they should.
Israel offered yasser arafat 99% of all he wanted for peace. it was thrown back in Israel's face. It's time for Palestinians to die

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05-22-2007, 08:48 PM

What's the old saying about "rats backed into a corner?"

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05-22-2007, 08:49 PM

There are people in this country, in any country, that truly believe their governors and legislators and presidents really do have their immediate family's best interest at heart and their nation's best interest at heart.

There are also people in this country, in any country, that distrust everyone with power, and the more powerful these leaders are, the more corrupt they are perceived to be.

A dyed-in-the-wool Republican will tell you Jimmy Carter was the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for the gas lines and Iran hostage crisis of the 1970s.

A dyed-in-the-wool Democrat will tell you George Bush is the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for 9/11 and for the protracted Iraq conflict.

Both can offer facts to make their points. Both can offer facts to counter the others points.

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05-22-2007, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by kane

I agree they are spending tons ot rebuild the oil infrastructure of the country and that they planned for us to have a long term influnence on the country. I think they felt like we would roll in, kick saddam out, put a nice US friendly democracy in power and then reap the oil rewards and that this wouldn't take much time or money. Here are a couple of great quotes:

If they really did think that (which I sincerely doubt), it was a miscalculation of epic proportions. Iraq isn't panama. It's a place of tremendous strategic and economic importance. Obviously, you're going to have numerous local factions competing for control of such a place. I think the general mindset was "thanks for kicking saddam out. he was a sociopathic piece of shit. now let us get on with our civil war, please".

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05-22-2007, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by 12clicks;

It's time for Palestinians to die

You know I'm a hard liner so I don't totally disagree with your logic. I'm just looking at it from their standpoint... minus the common sense peaceful aspect.

In their view they have nothing left they can do so they choose terrorism.

That's actually the point of terrorism. "We can't fight the giants their way, so we do what we can do to get respect through fear."

Unfortunately the fight is usually unecessary and the people are so blinded by their beliefs, religious or cultural, that they never accept the right course of action.

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05-22-2007, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by EuroDuke;

We need both.

I'm of the opinion that we'd be better off with neither.

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05-22-2007, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

What's the old saying about "rats backed into a corner?"

I think it's "Rats backed into a corner make for tastier burgers at McDonalds".
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05-22-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Pornwolf

I'm of the opinion that we'd be better off with neither.

Amen brother!!

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05-22-2007, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by EuroDuke

There are people in this country, in any country, that truly believe their governors and legislators and presidents really do have their immediate family's best interest at heart and their nation's best interest at heart.

There are also people in this country, in any country, that distrust everyone with power, and the more powerful these leaders are, the more corrupt they are perceived to be.

A dyed-in-the-wool Republican will tell you Jimmy Carter was the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for the gas lines and Iran hostage crisis of the 1970s.

A dyed-in-the-wool Democrat will tell you George Bush is the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for 9/11 and for the protracted Iraq conflict.

Both can offer facts to make their points. Both can offer facts to counter the others points.

We need both.

I really believe you can't fully judge a president until they have been out of power for a while. Often the things they set in motion don't come to fruition until years after they are out of office. I think Bush will ultimately be judged on how things turn out in Iraq and we won't know that any time soon. Bush's worst nightmare is that a democrat wins in 08, immediately pulls us out of Iraq and after some unrest the country settles down, forms a government and develops a strong relationship with us.
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05-22-2007, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by DTK

If they really did think that (which I sincerely doubt), it was a miscalculation of epic proportions. Iraq isn't panama. It's a place of tremendous strategic and economic importance. Obviously, you're going to have numerous local factions competing for control of such a place. I think the general mindset was "thanks for kicking saddam out. he was a sociopathic piece of shit. now let us get on with our civil war, please".

I have always stood by my belief that the middle east is a place that has known nothing but conflict since the beginning of recorded time and there is no reason to believe that there will be anything but conflict there in the future.

As for the pre-war assessments, to me, if you look at what was said you have to believe one of two things. Either they really thought it wasn't going to be that hard and things would go smoothly and it would be relatively cheap, or they knew otherwise and lied to us.
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05-22-2007, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by kane

I have always stood by my belief that the middle east is a place that has known nothing but conflict since the beginning of recorded time and there is no reason to believe that there will be anything but conflict there in the future.

As for the pre-war assessments, to me, if you look at what was said you have to believe one of two things. Either they really thought it wasn't going to be that hard and things would go smoothly and it would be relatively cheap, or they knew otherwise and lied to us.

I'll pick door number 2 ;)

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05-22-2007, 09:07 PM

Well if you haven't noticed there are a LOT of fucking retarded people in America... and well I guess some of them just have an opinion.

Why don't we concentrating on fixing some of our problems before we decide to try to change someone else's situation. Especially when they don't want our help. Spend the billions we have at war on our country's school systems, medical plans, poverty, violence, drugs, gangs, etc...

Ask 90% of the world what they think of Americans. I'm fucking ashamed to be one. As soon as someone found out I was an American while abroad the first question they asked me was, "Do you own a gun?" In all seriousness.

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05-22-2007, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by igotmeg

Why don't we concentrating on fixing some of our problems before we decide to try to change someone else's situation. Especially when they don't want our help. Spend the billions we have at war on our country's school systems, medical plans, poverty, violence, drugs, gangs, etc...

Heyyyyyyy now....let's not be logical, ok?

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05-22-2007, 09:10 PM

Well igotmeg, do you own a gun?

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05-22-2007, 09:14 PM

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Well igotmeg, do you own a gun?

Nope because I don't believe that anything justifies taking someones life. And I don't think I could pull a trigger even in self defense.

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05-22-2007, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by EuroDuke

There are people in this country, in any country, that truly believe their governors and legislators and presidents really do have their immediate family's best interest at heart and their nation's best interest at heart.

There are also people in this country, in any country, that distrust everyone with power, and the more powerful these leaders are, the more corrupt they are perceived to be.

A dyed-in-the-wool Republican will tell you Jimmy Carter was the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for the gas lines and Iran hostage crisis of the 1970s.

A dyed-in-the-wool Democrat will tell you George Bush is the worst president of the last 50 years, and point to his incompetence as reason for 9/11 and for the protracted Iraq conflict.

Both can offer facts to make their points. Both can offer facts to counter the others points.

We need both.

Carter was the 3rd worst of the last 50 years (Dubya #1, Nixon #2, Carter #3).

Dubya is not only the worst of the last 50 years, but the worst EVER.

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05-22-2007, 09:18 PM

[QUOTE=igotmeg;12473032As soon as someone found out I was an American while abroad the first question they asked me was, "Do you own a gun?" In all seriousness.[/QUOTE]

I blame Michael Moore for that. Seriously. But I still love that big angry dumplin'

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05-22-2007, 09:19 PM

Lemme get this straight, when the terrorists come over here to kill us you wouldn't even shoot them? You are crazy. That's why we have the bill of rights to guarantee you can shoot foreigners whenever you need to. Why do you think they generally avoid going to war with our great nation... our military? No sir. They know if they step foot over here the citizens will have a good time setting fire to their asses.

Hell, I'm armed and ready to go to war with Canada if need be. I'm a true a 'Merican!

What's wrong with you eh?

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05-22-2007, 09:19 PM

I don't think it has anything to do with liking him, it's just that some people attach themselves to a party and support them regardless. Bush isn't much of a Republican when you think about it. He spend worse than liberals, is soft on immigration, and has expanded government control. But if you put an R or D next to someone's name, the sheep will flock.

So yes, the number should be 0%. Republicans should hate him for being liberal, and the Democrats should hate him for being a clueless moron. But as long as there are political parties, there will be sheep that follow them.

As for finding the 28% on this board, good luck. I still can't fathom why there are Republicans in this industry, especially those who support Bush. The same George Bush who has pushed his attorney generals to prosecute more obscenity cases, expanded laws regarding adult online, and nominated two Supreme Court judges who feel that pornography is not protected under the 1st Amendment. Just doesn't make any sense at all. I'm for small government, but their stance on social issues has made me a libertarian.
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05-22-2007, 09:24 PM

I'll go to war with Buffalo just because it's so close to Canada. I never liked that city.

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05-22-2007, 09:24 PM

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So are you saying he's not good? I challenge you to point out just one idiotic thing he's done... oh wait, that's too easy.

I think that the challenge should be to point out 50 idiotic things he has done...

Hoover Damn! Thats to easy as well.

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05-22-2007, 09:24 PM

er yea GOOOOOO BUSH

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05-22-2007, 09:24 PM

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What do you think of the suicide bombings by the Palestinians on the Gaza strip?

They really don't have the firepower to fight Israel and no one will help them because Israel is protected by us. So, what can they do?

They should fight like men, not cowards. If they have a problem with Israel, they should build their country and military up and fight. They should use some of that fucking oil money and invest it in their society. Instead they choose to run around praising Allah and crying every time someone draws a Mohamed cartoon. That is why the get their ass beat by other countries.
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