What are all you guys doing to stay 2257 compliant? - GoFuckYourself.com

jgabra62 · 05-21-2007, 11:11 AM

AdultSpace.com is a free adult social netoworking site and at the rate we are growing, Im pretty sure we are going to get hit with some 2257 problems.
We are being told that the most sufficient way to stay compliant is to request 2 forms of ID from each of our members...either by fax or scanned email. That doesnt seem very realistic to me, but if we have to do it...then we will give it a try.

I was just wondering what all you GFYers were doing to and if you guys had any ideas about what we could do?

After Shock Media · 05-21-2007, 11:30 AM

keeping records, urls, complying, ect, why?

Probono · 05-21-2007, 11:46 AM

Get a lawyer. If you are growing so fast invest to stay out of trouble.

Nikki_Licks · 05-21-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jgabra62

AdultSpace.com is a free adult social netoworking site and at the rate we are growing, Im pretty sure we are going to get hit with some 2257 problems.
We are being told that the most sufficient way to stay compliant is to request 2 forms of ID from each of our members...either by fax or scanned email. That doesnt seem very realistic to me, but if we have to do it...then we will give it a try.

I was just wondering what all you GFYers were doing to and if you guys had any ideas about what we could do?

Why would you need ID's from members. You would never get me sending you my personal information.

I would highly suggest you speak with an attorney.

D · 05-21-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Probono

Get a lawyer. If you are growing so fast invest to stay out of trouble.

This is the best advice you're probably going to get here.

If you're hosting nude pictures of people that you don't have records for, you may need to revisit your business model.

But before you do anything, talk to a lawyer... do a forum search, and there's many threads that discuss various firms and resource sites. Pick one that's right for you - you'll hopefully be with him/her for a long time.

StuartD · 05-21-2007, 12:00 PM

I deal in code, not pictures.

So far...

if( $she_state = 'horny' && $he_state = 'horny' && !isset($std) ){
DoubleAnal();
}

is still compliant.

GigoloMason · 05-21-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

I deal in code, not pictures.

So far...

if( $she_state = 'horny' && $he_state = 'horny' && !isset($std) ){
DoubleAnal();
}

is still compliant.

Wow intarweb jokes!

Webby · 05-21-2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jgabra62

AdultSpace.com is a free adult social netoworking site and at the rate we are growing, Im pretty sure we are going to get hit with some 2257 problems.

Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man - it's a US domestic law with no cred outside US territory.

Just wondering where 2257 applies to a social networking site?? (Tho might have missed an element which may be more "adult").

If you can see an angle where the law can attack you on this - best to have a lawyer just scan over that possibility.

jgabra62 · 05-21-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by D

This is the best advice you're probably going to get here.

If you're hosting nude pictures of people that you don't have records for, you may need to revisit your business model.

But before you do anything, talk to a lawyer... do a forum search, and there's many threads that discuss various firms and resource sites. Pick one that's right for you - you'll hopefully be with him/her for a long time.

Thanks for the advice...we will be meeting with a lawyer this week.

jgabra62 · 05-21-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man - it's a US domestic law with no cred outside US territory.

Just wondering where 2257 applies to a social networking site?? (Tho might have missed an element which may be more "adult").

If you can see an angle where the law can attack you on this - best to have a lawyer just scan over that possibility.

Good advice, thank you.

gornyhuy · 05-21-2007, 03:41 PM

pulling down all my sites.

Iron Fist · 05-21-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gornyhuy

pulling down all my sites.

DaddyHalbucks · 05-21-2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man - it's a US domestic law with no cred outside US territory.

Just wondering where 2257 applies to a social networking site?? (Tho might have missed an element which may be more "adult").

If you can see an angle where the law can attack you on this - best to have a lawyer just scan over that possibility.

I have heard lawyers say the exact opposite.

I just read an old article by ChadKnowsLaw.com that says the exact opposite.

AaronM · 05-21-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jgabra62

We are being told that the most sufficient way to stay compliant is to request 2 forms of ID from each of our members...

Interesting when you consider that the law only requires one ID.

What am I doing to stay compliant? Well, I listen to my attorneys and I follow the rules.

AaronM · 05-21-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jgabra62

Good advice, thank you.

Webby tells you: "Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man..." Then you follow up and tell him it's good advice?

Your location says Los Angeles...Is that still located in the US or have they moved it?

wyldworx · 05-21-2007, 07:28 PM

ensuring I keep every little detail that will cover my ass. icq logs, receipts and times of purchase as well as WHO they were purchased from, as well as the actual documents themselves.

Webby · 05-21-2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man - it's a US domestic law with no cred outside US territory.

Just wondering where 2257 applies to a social networking site?? (Tho might have missed an element which may be more "adult").

If you can see an angle where the law can attack you on this - best to have a lawyer just scan over that possibility.

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

I have heard lawyers say the exact opposite.

I just read an old article by ChadKnowsLaw.com that says the exact opposite.

Opposite to what DH?? Social networking sites or your usual trash about how foreign webmasters are obliged to conform to US domestic laws?

Webby · 05-21-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Webby tells you: "Don't do anything to comply with USC 2257 man..." Then you follow up and tell him it's good advice?

Your location says Los Angeles...Is that still located in the US or have they moved it?

Fucked quote Aaron... What was intended to convey was the I don't comply with USC 2257 because it does not apply outside US jurisdiction.

But did say "If you can see an angle where the law can attack you on this - best to have a lawyer just scan over that possibility." considering jgabra62 does appear to fall under that law.

jgabra62 got the point and think this was what he was responding to.

slimgirlbt · 05-21-2007, 07:58 PM

she knows her job

Matt 26z · 05-21-2007, 08:01 PM

A lawyer is obviously going to tell you to have ID's for any sexually explicit content that appears below the address bar. That's the safe bet, and they are paid to keep you out of trouble.

I personally wouldn't run one of these sites though. 2257 records keeping aside, nothing is stopping a 14yo from uploading nudes and bringing troubles your way.

BobG · 05-21-2007, 08:07 PM

WWXPD? What would hahahahahaha do?

05-21-2007, 11:11 AM	#1
jgabra62 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,396	What are all you guys doing to stay 2257 compliant? AdultSpace.com is a free adult social netoworking site and at the rate we are growing, Im pretty sure we are going to get hit with some 2257 problems. We are being told that the most sufficient way to stay compliant is to request 2 forms of ID from each of our members...either by fax or scanned email. That doesnt seem very realistic to me, but if we have to do it...then we will give it a try. I was just wondering what all you GFYers were doing to and if you guys had any ideas about what we could do? __________________ Joey 'J-Gabz' Gabra NMS Productions USA, LLC [email protected] Skype: jgabra62

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	keeping records, urls, complying, ect, why? __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	A lawyer is obviously going to tell you to have ID's for any sexually explicit content that appears below the address bar. That's the safe bet, and they are paid to keep you out of trouble. I personally wouldn't run one of these sites though. 2257 records keeping aside, nothing is stopping a 14yo from uploading nudes and bringing troubles your way.

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BobG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,274	WWXPD? What would hahahahahaha do?