More sologirl sites bite the dust... - GoFuckYourself.com

BigBen · 05-20-2007, 04:16 PM

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Greetings AvatarCash Affiliates:

Effective immediately, please remove all AvatarCash links for DawnAvril.com and KissMeJamie.com. We apoligize for the late notice of this news and assure you it was beyond our control. Thank you for your continued support.

What a hassle.

ayne468 · 05-20-2007, 04:19 PM

Why do you think this is?

BucksMania · 05-20-2007, 04:21 PM

what may be the reason?

Kimo · 05-20-2007, 04:22 PM

what a pain in the ass

nikki99 · 05-20-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BucksMania

what may be the reason?

daddy was looking for porn in the net and saw his daugther

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 05-20-2007, 04:47 PM

FUCK.... I JUST started promoting both of those sites like last week...

budz · 05-20-2007, 04:50 PM

haha, thats great.

Only because I've had avatarcash in a tab for a few weeks..haven't signed up and got all the promo stuff yet woo hoo

sux for u ismokeblunts :p

Rochard · 05-20-2007, 04:52 PM

Never heard of them.

OG LennyT · 05-20-2007, 04:55 PM

glad I never signed up with them

tony286 · 05-20-2007, 04:56 PM

one reason could be girls painted pictures of making shit loads of cash it doesnt happen they get bored.

nnweb · 05-20-2007, 05:19 PM

pay your models

Screaming · 05-20-2007, 05:20 PM

not good

SteveLightspeed · 05-20-2007, 05:25 PM

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think. Big profits = big risk

Even the best sites can run into unexpected problems.

Steve Lightspeed

StarkReality · 05-20-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

one reason could be girls painted pictures of making shit loads of cash it doesnt happen they get bored.

Yep, they get bored for all sorts of reasons you can imagine and at this age they change their "long term" decisions faster than their clothes...a bullet proof contract and as much content as possible shot in the first weeks are the only remedy.

They don't see it as business, they see it as fast and easy money and once they see it's real work and they don't become Paris Hilton overnight, many quit.

sicone · 05-20-2007, 05:31 PM

not familiar with the program

Shoehorn! · 05-20-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think.

sweetcuties · 05-20-2007, 05:47 PM

Never heard of those sites but I've heard of ChaseTheHottie (another site in the proggy) In my opinion (with solo sites.).. shoot as much content asap, then put in a mega network when it's over

IllTestYourGirls · 05-20-2007, 05:48 PM

not that hot

Iron Fist · 05-20-2007, 06:12 PM

dammit... no wonder my tgp is reporting missing links for all the same galleries. Argh - I liked her gothy look - her schoolgirl sets were awesome. Oh well, another one that bites the dust. It's the industries way of keeping my content fresh.

CuriousToyBoy · 05-20-2007, 06:20 PM

Never heard of them ... seems anyone in the last year with a camera and a girl has though it was was a pot of gold at the end of some rainbow.

Uh-Uh.

;-)

jscott · 05-20-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think. Big profits = big risk

Even the best sites can run into unexpected problems.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve, you are 100% correct on this, but if you close a site, why not do it responsibly?

Like telling the affiliates about the site closing BEFORE it closes so we are not sending traffic to dead links (or to other sites, or to same site on different program, etc etc)

TiaLing · 05-20-2007, 08:23 PM

Hey everyone! Noticed the issues regarding solo girl sites, and wanted to mention that I've had my own solo site up and running for about a year and a half now. No it's not easy, but the ride has been worth it so far! No pun intended, LOL! Please check out my site tialing.com, which will have a new redesign up shortly, but check out anyway. My affiliate program is at tialingcash.com. Very basic set up, but planning on upgrading soon. I run program on my own, but need some good people to promote me. So, if you're interested in promoting a hard working asian porn girl, sign up for my program, I'm not going anywhere anytime soon! Thanks! tia

igotstinky · 05-20-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think. Big profits = big risk

Even the best sites can run into unexpected problems.

Steve Lightspeed

Amen Brotha!!!

spunky99 · 05-20-2007, 10:32 PM

DawnAvril.com is just changing webmasters, im sure the new one will make an announcement as soon as the change is complete, not to sure about the kissmejamie site tho

Paul Markham · 05-20-2007, 10:38 PM

Once a site is up, it's up and the costs are minimal if you don't work it. Just leave it and take the little it makes. Why take it down?

They did not have enough money to pay the models, so did a rev share deal and the models have some control over the content, could be an answer. If you pay models you own the content, you do with it as you please.

BlondeBecks · 05-20-2007, 10:40 PM

I had never heard of that program....that could be a problem in itself.

datatank · 05-20-2007, 10:46 PM

http://dawnavril.com/

Click webmasters you get

http://www.naughtygirlscash.com/

NTSS · 05-20-2007, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BlondeBecks

I had never heard of that program....that could be a problem in itself.

good point

Catalyst · 05-20-2007, 10:47 PM

Yea.. I think a lot of program open up sites.. promise girls tons of money and when it doesn't work out.. they close the site.. who knows.

BigBen · 05-20-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

http://dawnavril.com/

Click webmasters you get

http://www.naughtygirlscash.com/

naughtygirlscash has closed more sologirl sites than any other program I've promoted. I won't touch their stuff anymore. I'm sure they'll enjoy the free traffic though from the people that still have dawnavril promos up.

LiveDose · 05-20-2007, 11:59 PM

That sucks.

BigBen · 05-21-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBen

naughtygirlscash has closed more sologirl sites than any other program I've promoted. I won't touch their stuff anymore. I'm sure they'll enjoy the free traffic though from the people that still have dawnavril promos up.

Edit - mixed up naughtygirlscash with getnaughtycash.

jscott · 05-21-2007, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBen

Edit - mixed up naughtygirlscash with getnaughtycash.

i knew GNC was who you really meant 1 sec after your posted hehehe

The Ghost · 05-21-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think. Big profits = big risk

Even the best sites can run into unexpected problems.

Steve Lightspeed

The master speaks.

Very few sologirl sites operate in the black, better less are able to make a humble living from the site.

CIVMatt · 05-21-2007, 06:19 AM

What did these girls look like? Lets have a rememberance...

Wizzo · 05-21-2007, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

Yep, they get bored for all sorts of reasons you can imagine and at this age they change their "long term" decisions faster than their clothes...a bullet proof contract and as much content as possible shot in the first weeks are the only remedy.

They don't see it as business, they see it as fast and easy money and once they see it's real work and they don't become Paris Hilton overnight, many quit.

Exactly, and our girls tend to be paid better than most in the industry and yet we've still had a few problems. We've learned to not only have enough content, but to control the domain(s) as well!

BT · 05-21-2007, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

It is tougher to run sologirl sites than most people think. Big profits = big risk

Even the best sites can run into unexpected problems.

Steve Lightspeed

Oz has spoken

Violetta · 05-21-2007, 06:57 AM

oh... that sucks!

BigBen · 05-21-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

i knew GNC was who you really meant 1 sec after your posted hehehe

Heh, I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought this.

JMM · 05-30-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Catalyst

Yea.. I think a lot of program open up sites.. promise girls tons of money and when it doesn't work out.. they close the site.. who knows.

Then theres the guys who don't manage the site(s) properly and when the girl moves on the guy stops paying them the money they have earned and continue to run the site with old recycled content lying to surfers and fucking affiliate rebill ratios.

AaronM · 05-30-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ayne468

Why do you think this is?

Because people open paysite with bad content, bad models, and or bad/no traffic.

People do things like this because they think it's a fast easy way to make money. Many times they have no clue WTF they are doing.

Search GFY and see how many times people have asked giving models a percentage of he site. This is usually done when people can't afford to pay the models directly. So.....The model shows up and works for who knows how long.....The site launches but it never makes any money. No income = no money for the model. The model gets pissed and bails.

There are a lot of reason for sites to shut down like this and most of those reasons involve bad decision on the part of the site owners.

JMM · 05-30-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Because people open paysite with bad content, bad models, and or bad/no traffic.

People do things like this because they think it's a fast easy way to make money. Many times they have no clue WTF they are doing.

Search GFY and see how many times people have asked giving models a percentage of he site. This is usually done when people can't afford to pay the models directly. So.....The model shows up and works for who knows how long.....The site launches but it never makes any money. No income = no money for the model. The model gets pissed and bails.

There are a lot of reason for sites to shut down like this and most of those reasons involve bad decision on the part of the site owners.

We pay our models a percentage for one reason, interaction. Surfers are smarter than they used to be when it comes to solo girl sites (not all surfers, but many). Having the model involved in the site, cam shows, blog posts with personal pictures, events, auctions, etc, etc, etc, keeps the surfer longer. Retention is key for affiliates and in the long run, I believe I make more money.

With all the solo girl sites out there, customer retention is key. It is easier and cheaper to keep a customer than it is to get a customer.

pornguy · 05-30-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy

Never heard of them ... seems anyone in the last year with a camera and a girl has though it was was a pot of gold at the end of some rainbow.

Uh-Uh.

;-)

Some are making the pot of gold. but only the ones that live with the camera and stick with it more than 6 months.

AaronM · 05-30-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JMM

We pay our models a percentage for one reason, interaction. Surfers are smarter than they used to be when it comes to solo girl sites (not all surfers, but many). Having the model involved in the site, cam shows, blog posts with personal pictures, events, auctions, etc, etc, etc, keeps the surfer longer. Retention is key for affiliates and in the long run, I believe I make more money.

With all the solo girl sites out there, customer retention is key. It is easier and cheaper to keep a customer than it is to get a customer.

You could accomplish the same by giving performance bonuses or profit sharing without giving up a piece of your business to somebody who does not understand what is going on or who can leave you high and dry at any time.

Pay them for the shoots or put them on salary and you own the content without any headaches. Offer them a percentage and you are setting yourself up for problems if/when they become unhappy or decide to get out of the biz.

tranza · 05-30-2007, 09:55 AM

I'd never promote such sponsor again.

CaptainHowdy · 05-30-2007, 09:56 AM

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