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Old 08-22-2002, 06:09 PM   #1
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Legit uses of "hitbots" ???

I've spent the past couple of days writing a "hitbot"
for security testing on a paysite that runs under
*BSD. (as does the hitbot, pure C and with IPv6)

While it works great and finds the little mistakes of
the 2 remote webmasters on the site of the guy that
had me write it. My question now is this just plain
evil technology to let out or should I follow the spirit
of the community and release it as "beerware"?

I did a quick search and it seems that there are no
Unix tools of this type for security testing, but LOTS
of Windows tools that seem to be ment just for the
purpose of ripping of sponsors. Is it too risky or are
the scam artists not smart enough to bother with
setting up FreeBSD?

Opinions?
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:10 PM   #2
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I've spent the past couple of days writing a "hitbot"
for security testing on a paysite that runs under
*BSD. (as does the hitbot, pure C and with IPv6)

Send it to me.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:11 PM   #3
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Ya, me too. i need a hot tub
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:12 PM   #4
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Ya, me too. i need a hot tub
Are you kidding, or answering my question with
the suggestion that I shouldn't?
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:13 PM   #5
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If its not a windows program release it. Most hitbotters aren't smart enough to use anything but DOS & Windows.

And cheaters are caught easily now-adays.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:13 PM   #6
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Are you kidding, or answering my question with
the suggestion that I shouldn't?
Send it to me. I wont give it to Gary. I promise.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:13 PM   #7
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http://www.cheatski.com

This looks like just the product I am looking for on my new russian webmaster resource site.

Can you provide me with directions on how a layperson webmaster can use it in html format ?
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:13 PM   #8
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Ok, seriously, you don't want it to get out. A lot of webmasters will get screwed by it.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:14 PM   #9
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put it up and post a link
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:14 PM   #10
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Send it to me. I wont give it to Gary. I promise.
I'll let you cuddle in the hot tub with me
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:14 PM   #11
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word , do u want me to serve that file for you?
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:16 PM   #12
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Ok, seriously, you don't want it to get out. A lot of webmasters will get screwed by it.
get screw or making bank, you;ll never know.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:26 PM   #13
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I don't get what a hitbot has to do with paysite security testing.. Are you talking about something that tries to guess passwords by brute force?
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:35 PM   #14
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I don't get what a hitbot has to do with paysite security testing.. Are you talking about something that tries to guess passwords by brute force?
Per min billing system on a 35 live cam system.

Needed to run the dynamic changing of access control
files through the paces *REALLY* well since it's a rev
split setup with the content (strippers putting in some
extra shift time). Basically needed to ensure that even
some Joe behind a proxy couldn't brute his way in after
his time ran out if there was another Bob on the same
proxy, then needed it to scale to about 1000 proxies
in rapid fire.

Sure that'd be nailed in a second on the stats, but

sleep (X);

is an easy line to add ...hence my reluctance. However
it has proved to be useful for security debugging and
others that run similar systems (adult or not) might
find it useful.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:36 PM   #15
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:38 PM   #16
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Is this is your company?

http://www.hitbot.f2s.com/

Smart HitBot is an efficient program that can imitate the real surfers to read and click pages/banners online. Not only can it read and hit specified links, but also some dynamic links, even the links buried in pages. You can preset the time interval, the ratio of hits to impressions and the number of pages viewed per visit. Further more, Smart HitBot can change proxy and reference automatically, all these make it can perform more like the real surfers.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:39 PM   #17
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So can I distribute it on cheatski.com and give you full credit for building it?

My users really want something like this.

Sasush let them all down on all his offerings
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:46 PM   #18
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Is this is your company?

http://www.hitbot.f2s.com/

This was one of the cheater tools I looked at when
building it.

Nope, not me... don't do windows unless I'm checking
HTML rendering.

Yah, I've got the read, hit, find, hit , and repeat with
regex patterns.

No my current code doesn't set timers, as I said I built
it as a security testing tool. It does already randomly
cycle the proxy list to trip up the billing system coders.
It also will random request links within a page at
pseudo random delays to simulate a "lost" surfer,
again to trip up guys doing the billing system. It's
present form will not ripoff a sponsor, but a good
coder could get it to that point in about (SHRUG) 2 to
3 hours including a test run.
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Old 08-22-2002, 07:02 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by some_idiot
I've spent the past couple of days writing a "hitbot"
for security testing on a paysite that runs under
*BSD. (as does the hitbot, pure C and with IPv6)

While it works great and finds the little mistakes of
the 2 remote webmasters on the site of the guy that
had me write it. My question now is this just plain
evil technology to let out or should I follow the spirit
of the community and release it as "beerware"?

I did a quick search and it seems that there are no
Unix tools of this type for security testing, but LOTS
of Windows tools that seem to be ment just for the
purpose of ripping of sponsors. Is it too risky or are
the scam artists not smart enough to bother with
setting up FreeBSD?

Opinions?
Now just so I understand this and pleace correct me if I am wrong. You wrote a program so that people using FreeBSD can cheat webmaster out of traffic and you modeled it after a program for windows that us used to try to cheat webmasters? Now you want to know if you should release it? Basicly this is a program that people can install on there web servers instead of their home computers and cheat other people. Gees what a good Idea


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