Dj decks for a beginner

[karlm]

Hi all i know theres a few djs on here.

I want some record decks

Got any suggestions i dont want to spend to much at first

I will need a mixer too

[karlm]

Heres a bump

[Goodings Media]

hiya,

get a cheap set of belt driven Numark decks. These will set you back like £50 each.

a basic numark 2 channel mixer - £50

nice set of amped speakers - £50

Basically Numark do a Dj package which is what me n both of my brothers started on. My eldest brother has now Dj'd all over the UK and abroad, and my 2nd eldest bro Dj's/Mc's at wharehouse raves regularly.

I remember them paying £200 for it new. It may even be cheaper now, but it just shows ya you only gotta start paying low (I fink my big bros last new decks he bought were about £1800 each lol)

[mattyboy]

Beginner or pro, Technics 1210's is the only way to go ;)

[seeric]

Originally Posted by Goodings Media

hiya,

get a cheap set of belt driven Numark decks. These will set you back like £50 each.

a basic numark 2 channel mixer - £50

nice set of amped speakers - £50

Basically Numark do a Dj package which is what me n both of my brothers started on. My eldest brother has now Dj'd all over the UK and abroad, and my 2nd eldest bro Dj's/Mc's at wharehouse raves regularly.

I remember them paying £200 for it new. It may even be cheaper now, but it just shows ya you only gotta start paying low (I fink my big bros last new decks he bought were about £1800 each lol)

^^^^^what he said. very good setup for a beginner.

Originally Posted by mattyboy

Beginner or pro, Technics 1210's is the only way to go ;)

although i agree with the poster above you, i am very glad that i learned and started with technics. i hate playing on any decks but technics. its the difference between driving a rolls royce and a crappy pontiac fiero. the only other set of decks that i would recommend are the stanton direct drive decks.

[bDok]

Do not get cheap belt driven decks. You need to get direct drive. PERIOD.

Originally Posted by Goodings Media

hiya,

get a cheap set of belt driven Numark decks. These will set you back like £50 each.

a basic numark 2 channel mixer - £50

nice set of amped speakers - £50

Basically Numark do a Dj package which is what me n both of my brothers started on. My eldest brother has now Dj'd all over the UK and abroad, and my 2nd eldest bro Dj's/Mc's at wharehouse raves regularly.

I remember them paying £200 for it new. It may even be cheaper now, but it just shows ya you only gotta start paying low (I fink my big bros last new decks he bought were about £1800 each lol)

[Evil E]

No doubt, if you're going cheap, at least settle for direct drive tables.

[KRosh]

Belt driven decks SUCK ASS

you can not EVER Cue properly.

If you are serious about becoming a DJ with Vinyl then you need to have Technics. Save your money and get the good one up front.

The other thing that i recommend is to get CHEAP tables and a decent mixer but get yourself the Rane Serato and go Digital


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[karlm]

Thanks for the advice all

What about these



Citronic CDM 7:2c Mixer :

2 x Citronic PD 1 direct drive turntables :

[karlm]

Ive got a deal on ebay for them under £100

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

You will find it frustrating in the least to learn on anything less than technics quality decks.

The cheap models are very lightweight, so the tonearm and needle are a pain to place, you can forget scratching, spinbacks or literally anything else other than beat mixing. Even if you jog the desk the decks are on by accident the tone arms will simply fly across the vinyl.

Belt drive sucks, you'll hate waiting for the turntable to get to speed if trying to beat mix two tunes from a certain point. Youll try and winding the record forward with your finger to play catch up and the lightweight tone arm will keep jumping out of the groove - practising even the basics on these for a few weeks and you'll throw them out of the window. Cheap direct drives aren't any better, the motors have pathetic torque and everything else is pretty much as lightweight.

I sincerely hope I've convinced you not to waste your money - you'll be wanting to upgrade in a month because cheap decks make the initial learning process horrendous and four times as long.

[fardoche27]

You can go with any Turntable you want but I guarantee after 1 month, you'll want to switch to the SL 1200's!

I bought some Numark tt100's and changed them for SL1200's 5 weeks after!

[strobi]

Just buy 2 technics 1200's, little bit more expensive, but these babies stay a lifetime, and great resell value too!

[karlm]

Hi so the Citronics are not very good then?

[Humpy Leftnut]

It doesn't matter if they're good, they're not tec 12's.

Do not buy a turntable if it's not a technics 1200 or 1210. Just don't do it. Wait if you have to.

Also realize that they hold their value used, so if you blow the money and find you don't use them as much as you thought you were going to, just sell them and you'll only lose a few bucks.

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

Originally Posted by karlm

Hi so the Citronics are not very good then?

Go to a DJ specific store and demo a set of technics against any Citronic, soundlab, Gemini etc - you'll see what we mean as soon as you feel the quality of a technics.

[jonesonyou]

Vinyl is very expensive....I would NOT get turntables of any kind unless you are planning on spending a load of money.....If you want the feel of vinyl and are looking for the cheepest solution I would recommend Programs like final scratch....serato scratch ....or Torq... Those programs come with a sound card and timecode vinyl...You have the vinyl controller and you can play mp3 or wav files from your computer. Even with these programs I would not use anything other the tech 12s

[karlm]

Bump for the djs

[karlm]

bed time bump

[Big_Red]

hey bud, i been dj'ing since a kid. Technics are the way to go. Do not waste your time with anything else. For a board I use Vestax because I am heavy on the scratch yo and need something that can keep up. anything else would fall apart in a week.

[Big_Red]

one more suggestion. learn how to spin on all kinds of tables, so practice with your bros on their tables. cause when you walk up in a club and their tables are not tuned right, or what the fuxors ever. you will need to be able to adapt quickly.

[Jace]

don't skimp on the basics dude...I can honestly say I have met at least 300 people that tried to dj and bought cheap shit and regretted it from the first day

speaking of which, I have a bunch of old technics 1200 slmkII I will sell if you are interested

[robfantasy]

bro, dont waste your time w/ vinyl

get yourself

2 pioneer cdj1000 mk3's

1 pioneer mixer djm500, 600 or 800

1 pioneer headphones

or a laptop, controller and ableton

or dont waste your time..

[Jace]

robfantasy, depending on where he wants to be djing, there are still clubs and underground parties that don't even have cd decks

vinyl is still standard in a lot of places

[k0nr4d]

I've been spinning for about 2 years.

If you are planning on getting into it hardcore, don't get any "beginner" decks becuase you'll just end up having to buy nice denon or techniques ones.

but if you wanan go cheap, numark stuff is ok stuff.

Do NOT get belt drive turntables. Direct drive only. Belt drive is for old ladies that want to listen to records from the 30s.

I personally find cd decks to be horrible. The only ones i can spin on are the denon 3000s where the top platter spins like vinyl.

[k0nr4d]

Jace, how much you want for those techs? And do they hold their pitch properly still? I have OK numark tables but the pitch drifts so much i have to adjust every like 10 seconds

[Juilan]

Ahhhhh I remember my first Techic 1200's and stanton mixer... early 90's.... those we're some fun years

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

Originally Posted by Jace

robfantasy, depending on where he wants to be djing, there are still clubs and underground parties that don't even have cd decks

vinyl is still standard in a lot of places

exactly

- and I suspect for DJ's who want to have the rarest new releases like dubplates or slightly later promos, prior to the main release, having decks to play the vinyl on is till the way to go.

[Mike Semen]

Get 2nd hand technics or vestax and any shitty mixer with 2 channels and a crossfader to begin with. The mixer you can upgrade as you go, but get the decks right straight away.

[Ace_luffy]

Originally Posted by fardoche27

You can go with any Turntable you want but I guarantee after 1 month, you'll want to switch to the SL 1200's!

I bought some Numark tt100's and changed them for SL1200's 5 weeks after!

i love this setup
i hope someday i can have that too!

nice

[tenderobject]

yo guys, i know this is kinda offtopic..

who collects vinyl records here? where do you buy? what kind of music are you collecting? kinda addicted with 45s right now.. old skul yeah... i love northern soul/soul/motown/psychedelia/60's pop do you know any place to get these records? i know ebay/eil/gemm but maybe you know a much cheaper place.. shipping here sucks!

[Jace]

Originally Posted by tenderobject

yo guys, i know this is kinda offtopic..

who collects vinyl records here? where do you buy? what kind of music are you collecting? kinda addicted with 45s right now.. old skul yeah... i love northern soul/soul/motown/psychedelia/60's pop do you know any place to get these records? i know ebay/eil/gemm but maybe you know a much cheaper place.. shipping here sucks!

I collect, have over 2000 right now

I shop here at least twice a week
http://www.myspace.com/waxnfacts

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

I collect, 88 to 93 hardcore. The rarer the better, only a few gaps to go till i have everything i knew from the era.

[Mike Semen]

Originally Posted by ultimatebbwdotcom

I collect, 88 to 93 hardcore. The rarer the better, only a few gaps to go till i have everything i knew from the era.

Niiice. That's my era too. If you need a hookup with a good record dealer in london hit me up.

Oh and tender, yes I collect. Trying to thin things down to aboiut 1.5k really qaulity tunes. I still buy new from Juno.co.uk and piccadillyrecords.co.uk.

[Jace]

am I the only one that collects EVERYTHING?

my latest purchase included: Ludacris, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Daft Punk, Beethoven and Bob James

[tenderobject]

Originally Posted by Jace

I collect, have over 2000 right now

I shop here at least twice a week
http://www.myspace.com/waxnfacts

nice... we have vinyl shops here but rarely.. quality isn't that good pristine/mint is expensive... 4$-10$ per LP normaly. used/verygood to good condition... i wish we have big record shop like amoeba with old/used vinyls i prefer new records as well 180gram is heaven. although i live in manila. we stopped pressing vinyls for almost 12 years now and its kinda sad.. i only have atleast 200-400 lps since my first hundreds of vinylss was fucked up by flood so now im starting to cllect again after a few years and 300-500 45s mostly soul/northernsoul... waiting for a new batch of indie 45s next month. hehe i will stop buying records for the next couple of months since i bought 89 cds today! waahh i still love the smell of vinyl records!

[tenderobject]

Originally Posted by Mike Semen

Niiice. That's my era too. If you need a hookup with a good record dealer in london hit me up.

Oh and tender, yes I collect. Trying to thin things down to aboiut 1.5k really qaulity tunes. I still buy new from Juno.co.uk and piccadillyrecords.co.uk.

thanks man. have you tried shopping on roughtrade? they got bunch of good stuff i like! will check on those sites! wihs i could travel just for the sake of record hunting hahahaha i love popcorn!!!

[tenderobject]

Originally Posted by Jace

am I the only one that collects EVERYTHING?

my latest purchase included: Ludacris, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Daft Punk, Beethoven and Bob James

thats nice jace.. lst vinyl i bought was donovan, grover washington, marvin gaye forgot the others damn i think i haven't listen to it yet lol

[ultimatebbwdotcom]

Originally Posted by Mike Semen

Niiice. That's my era too. If you need a hookup with a good record dealer in london hit me up.

Oh and tender, yes I collect. Trying to thin things down to aboiut 1.5k really qaulity tunes. I still buy new from Juno.co.uk and piccadillyrecords.co.uk.

I moved to the US recently so I had to sell the decks (kept the vinyl of course) I used to shop in London for every now and then, some good stores there.

[sexykat]

I own 2 cdj 1000 mk3's and 1 behringer djx700 (I know they suck, but don't have the $$ right now for the djm 800)

I even have a PCDJ Dac-3

[robfantasy]

well, im talking about big clubs that book international dj's

every dj rider i have seen has pioneer cdj 1000's and a pioneer mixer as standard.

plus, i dont know anyone who carries around vinyl anymore. maybe for an underground rave or house party, but nowadays ppl just carry cd's..

and you can buy really cool dj bags for your pionner cd's and mixer from udg which are really nice and easy to carry.

[Mike Semen]

Originally Posted by Jace

am I the only one that collects EVERYTHING?

my latest purchase included: Ludacris, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Daft Punk, Beethoven and Bob James

I try and keep my collection down to a few genres, otherwise I wouldn't have cash for living. lol.

I buy: 88-95 hardcore and jungle, latin, dancehall, dub/roots and ska, classic hip hop, newer dance/electro stuff, soul/funk/rare grooves and some disco.

I do have Daft Punk and Bob James (One) though.

[Mike Semen]

Originally Posted by tenderobject

thanks man. have you tried shopping on roughtrade? they got bunch of good stuff i like! will check on those sites! wihs i could travel just for the sake of record hunting hahahaha i love popcorn!!!

Haha yea nothing wrong with a bit of popcorn mate. I have looked at roughtrade now and again, but most of that stuff is on the two above as well.

[Star 69]

Just buy yourself Technics 1210 MKL. This is the best turntable in the world!!!

[Goodings Media]

sorry but unless he knows he's gonna deffo stick with it, i dont see the point in blowing the cash

Me for xample

I wanted some decks. Was gonna buy a smart set of technics n a truck load of vinyl - i was set to spend a few g's

my eldest bro just said use my old ones out of the loft until you know you like it, and he gave me about 50 old vinyl.

I played on thm loads............ for about 2 month

Never used em again. If i had jumped in at the deep end, id have been stuck a few grand out of pocket.

Im not the musically talnted one in the family

[KRosh]

I have over 17000 Vinyl

been collecting since 1983